With Aroldis Chapman's Decision Looming, Nobody Knows What's Going On
A couple days back, Juan C. Rodriguez reported that highly touted Cuban prospect Aroldis Chapman's decision was coming with "three or four days". Halfway there, and the situation has pretty much only gotten murkier.
The Red Sox remain one of the only teams with a confirmed offer--$15.5 million back in December--but pretty much every team not named Cuba has stuck their nose in. Right now it seems like there are, at least, some teams that are definitely out in the Yankees, Mets, and Astros. Of course, the Yankees are the type to sign a guy they're confirmed to be out on, and Omar Minaya makes the decisions for the Mets, so I wouldn't even entirely count them out.
Ed Wade must be feeling so alone.
Some favorites have certainly emerged. The Red Sox were, of course, in the pack given that for a long time they were the only ones who had made an offer. More recent news, though, has other teams with bids above the Red Sox' original $15.5 million. The Angels are apparently making a very hard push, desperate to make something out of what has so far been a disastrous offseason for them. The Blue Jays have also stepped into the mix, and are considered very much a match for the Angels' interest. The A's and Orioles have also been named as new bidders. At one point, the Florida Marlins were looking like they were odds-on favorites, but a recent tweet from Clark Spencer seems to tell a different story. Of course, the Marlins were never ones to let money stop them from making a move.
Oh, no, wait...
As of this very moment, gun to my head, I would guess the Angels are going to pick up the young flamethrower. Their rotation needs some big help--it was a weak point last year with John Lackey--and with their big payroll, they can afford to drop $20 million on a guy with his potential. Then again, Tim Brown says they're not that close, and given the way teams have entered and exited these sweepstakes over the last few days, anything is possible.
For the Red Sox, it seems unlikely that they will raise their bid considerably if at all. Theo and the front office have made a point of not fooling around too much in negotiations since the Mark Teixeira debacle. They set their price on Jason Bay, and didn't budge from it. Signings like Scutaro, Lackey and Cameron have come suddenly and without much word of deliberation. Beltre seems like the only deal they might have moved on, given the unusual nature of his contract. If rumors of higher bids from other teams are accurate, the Sox may well be out.
So, Over the Monster readers, Aroldis Chapman: Yes, or No? And at what price?
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I don't know
I’ve become very indifferent to the whole Chapman situation. If the Sox sign him great, but I don’t think they should raise their offer by much if at all.
I'd go $22.5M over 5 years
$4.5M per year isn’t going to break anybody, and you could legitimately get 4.5 good to great years out of him at a cheap price.
Have you heard the rumors about his control???
And you’d lock yourself in for that long?
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by sox-inda-south on Jan 7, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, we're talking a major league contract here for several million a year (likely with a large bonus as well)
For a guy who’s probably more Daniel Cabrera than Randy Johnson. It would definitely put us over the luxury tax limit too.
But if the Sox sign him I’ll be happy and cheer for him and hopefully get to see him in Portland or Pawtucket sometime this year.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jan 7, 2010 1:15 PM EST reply actions
Lets go get him
Whats to lose? Honestly… Money is merely a tool and if its a waste, there will always be more as long as theyre butts in the seats. Too much upside to ignore. If we don’t land him, not a big deal
Tell ya what.
You go sign him personally and then loan him to the Sox, since money is such a minor detail.
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
I have a five-tool player in my pants.
The cap
If hes signed and sent to AAA does he still count towards cap. I’m thinking yes, but not sure
I'm not positive
And after reading the post a couple days ago I should be positive, but I think Theo wrote the word “Cap” onto a piece of paper, crinkled it up and then drop kicked it out his window. We do though still have space to move some inventory if we need to get under it. But I’m not so sure he’s worried about it anymore.
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I believe every player on the 40-man roster counts, correct?
I mean, people were adding in Iglesias and Tazawa, so I assume Chapman would also b added.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jan 7, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
Trade bait for Mr. Gonzalez?
"We're not going to give up," It doesn't happen, so who cares? There's always next year. It's not like it's the end of the world."-Manny Ramirez
That would send a poor message.
We have to treat these international players with a level of respect if we want to have chance for further signings in these markets.
That is why Dice-K will almost never be traded and will be given every chance to succeed in Boston….for the potential that other good Japanese players will want to come to the Redsox [Tazawa, Darvish ;)] The merchandise sales in Japan alone are impressive.
There is no way the Redsox would flip Chapman for A-Gon if we signed him.
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by sox-inda-south on Jan 7, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
The benefit, I believe, is the Sox would be on the hook for his signing bonus. I don’t know if they would need to wait a year (like draftees) to trade him. Regardless, even if they could, what a terrible message that would send. Good news, bad news Chapman. You just signed a $20M deal and we just traded you to SD.
The more likely thing
Would be to sign Chapman and trade Buchholz for AGonz. That being said, I don’t think there is any chance of this scenario occurring.
by Gnick on Jan 8, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Who said
money was a minor detail? I said its a tool. Do you pay rent? Do you have a job? Money comes in, money goes out. That’s just life. And I think its worth spending a little coin to go pick up someone we can raise in the farm and replace Beckett when he (almost) no doubtedly leaves. And if someone wants to pay more, then ok…. Good luck Chapman and your new suitor.
I'm assuming this comment was in response to mine.
And so, yes, I pay rent and have a job. I have money coming in and it dictates what money can go out. It’s called a budget. Money is less a tool and more a means. It is limited and so you must use it wisely. It is why I don’t bother with a TV and cable package…it’s money that is spent from which I don’t get acceptable value. So I cut it out of my budget. If I had a better job with more disposable income, maybe I’d get it. But since I don’t, I’d rather spend my money elsewhere.
And so should the Sox spend 23 million dollars and lock themselves into a contract for 5 years (to use an example from above) because a guy throws real hard?
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
I have a five-tool player in my pants.
By the time that 5 year contract ends he very well could be going into his first arbitration year too
Which means he could get a raise in his first arb. year higher than he earned the previous year (provided he didn’t suck).
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Jan 8, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions

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