Red Sox vs. Yanks (Someone had to do it!)
With Opening Day only a few months away the inevitable Red Sox vs. Yankees comparisons are starting to rear their ugly heads. Hot Stove season is over, and barring any blockbuster moves, each roster appears to be set.
Defense:
Anyone who has followed the off-season up until this point is fully aware of Theo's inclinations toward an improved defense. UZR has become the new OBP. With the additions of Beltre, Scutaro, and Cameron (along with Ellsbury's move to LF), the Sox look to have one of the best defenses in the league. The thought of an Ellsbury/Cameron/Drew outfield is unreal. Throw in three Gold Glove infielders and this defense is like a freaking baseball vacuum.
On the other end the Yankee's have new acquisition Curtis Granderson manning CF. His defense is an obvious upgrade over Melky Cabrera, he brings a career +21.2 UZR to what was a weakened outfield last season. Swisher will get the job done in right, and assuming Brett Gardner is the Opening Day left fielder, the Yanks will have improved their OF defense as well. Despite the much heated debate about the declining skills of Derek Jeter, they will still have an above average IF, especially with Teixiera manning 1B. The only question mark is going to be the durability of now 38 year old catcher Jorge Posada, who should see a fair amount of time at DH while sharing time behind the plate with Francisco Cervelli.
Verdict:
Both teams made significant improvements to their defense, but the Red Sox win this by a wide margin, replacing Bay, Lugo/Green, and Lowell with superior defensive talent.
Lineups:
As far as lineups go, its going to come down to whether or not guys on both sides bounce back and/or replicate their career years. Granderson could hit 30+ homers at Yankee stadium, but the same has been speculated with Adrian Beltre hitting in Fenway Park. The Sox are counting on a resurgent David Ortiz, who may not be the slugger he once was but is still a formidable bat to have in the lineup. A repeat of the first half of 2009 would certainly be a surprise, if he produces half as well as he did after the AS break then the loss of Jason Bay's bat will barely go noticed. Throw in a full year of V-Mart at catcher and the Sox have a very solid 3-4-5. The only glaring question mark is Marco Scutaro, while I would't expect a repeat of last years numbers, a career average year would be welcomed versus last years automatic outs with Lugo, Green, and Lowrie.
The offensive powerhouse that we call the Yankee's is a step ahead, and Rodriguez and Teixiera is as close to Ramirez/Ortiz as it comes. We can only expect Cano to get better as he ages and the addition of Granderson adds another dangerous lefty to an already potent lineup. Every year I have Posada's age coming up to bite him but he has defied it every season.
Verdict:
The bottom line is while the Sox have improved, the Yankee's clearly have the superior lineup. The addition of Adrian Gonzalez may have changed the scales but the signing of Adrian Beltre seems to have ruled out a trade, at least until the deadline.
Rotations:
- Beckett
- Lester
- Lackey
- Matsuzaka
- Buchholz
- Sabathia
- Burnett
- Vasquez
- Pettite
- Chamberlain
Of course with the addition of Lackey, the Yanks countered with Vasquez. With Vasquez' history during his tenure with the Yanks, i'm taking Lackey hands down. The guy is an absolute horse and would be a #1 on any other team. Sabathia and Lester is definitely an interesting match up, arguably two of the best left handed pitchers in the game not named Santana. While the Sox have possibly the best starting three in baseball, the four and five spots are huge question marks. Matsuzaka was atrocious last season, but did show promise towards the end of the year. Reports on his workout regime have also been encouraging, with some going as far as to say he is in "the best shape of his life". No doubt the potential is there, and the same goes for Buchholz. If either can live up to their infinite expectations the Sox will be a force to be reckoned with. It's time to live up to the hype for both Buchholz and Chamberlain. At the top the Yank's are set, CC proved last year that he can perform on the big stage and became the staff ace the team needed. Burnett, while erratic at times, was adequate and a second year in NY could do wonders.
Verdict:
I'm going to go ahead and give the Sox the win here, but its hardly a weak spot for the Yanks. New York got by last season with Sergio Mitre as a fifth starter, they have the luxury of not needing to rely solely on the rotation with such a powerful offense.
As far as predictions go, I have the Sox winning the division. Call it homerism at its finest, but I truly believe the run prevention route the Sox went will pay dividends. Of course things change over 162 games so nothing is guaranteed, except for the fact that we are in for some intense games throughout the season and hopefully, in October.
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For my money
this entire season rides on 5 things:
Ortiz’s bat being consistant April-October
The bullpen doing well, including Papelbon
Lester staying healthy
Ellsbury improving when it comes to getting on base
Victor Martinez being able to handle the majority of time behid the plate.
Trade Beckett !!!
I agree with all of this.
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
I have a five-tool player in my pants.
The VMart one
Is really the key. Getting an .850 or higher OPS out of our catcher would be fantastic, but I have serious doubts as to if he can do it.
by Gnick on Jan 18, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
2004-2007
he managed to OPS over .850 each year, and he OPSed .912 with Boston last year (.832 in Cleveland).
Granted, he wasn’t the catcher every game, but he won’t be in Boston either.
by FloridaownsFSU on Jan 18, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Red Sox vs. Nationals
Defense: Cristian Guzman once fielded questions from reporters. What a beast.
Offense: This is the team that literally had the “O” taken out of it.
Pitching: Unfortunately, Jordan Zimmerman isn’t to pitching what Ryan Zimmerman is to everything else.
Advantage: Nationals, because they got rid of Julian Tavarez more recently than we did.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Jan 17, 2010 9:31 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yankees fan here
just wondering, don’t you have to compare bullpens too? Because these days the bullpen is obviously a very important part of every team.
Defense, lineup, rotation, bullpen, are the areas that should be evaluated when comparing any team. You only have 3 of them.
Anyways, I’m taking the Yankees in the division (really, did you expect anything else?). I think the key is Javier Vasquez. If Vasquez can pitch the way he’s capable of pitching, that would make a huge difference. If Vasquez blows like in the second half and postseason of 2004, than, the Sox have the edge in the rotation.
was going to do a bp
but nearly fell asleep at the desk.
Javy was actually an All Star last time he was in NY.
Except tried to pitch through a sore shoulder and ended up sucking hard in the 2nd half and playoffs.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
I wouldn't mind seeing Vazquez repeat his ALCS Game 7 performance a few dozen times.
That was a gem.
Matt Clement was an All Star, until he was hit in the face.
Carl Pavano helped win a World Series, and is a great pitcher, except for a few years in New York.
Your point?
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
Of course with the addition of Lackey, the Yanks countered with Vasquez. With Vasquez’ history during his tenure with the Yanks, i’m taking Lackey hands down.
The point is that people only remember the ALCS meltdown. The big picture tells a different story.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Jan 19, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
i also don't expect to see him repeat his 2004 though
until the injury he was quite good in the East
I rate these teams pretty evenly
but one thing that can’t be forgotten is that the Rays are pretty damned good too. It’s also hard not to figure the schedules all three teams have to end the season. Not looking this up, but I believe the Yankees have 13 of their final 20 against Boston and Tampa (7 at home, 6 on the road). Any of those three teams would be well served to have a good division lead at that point, because the schedules are set up for it to be a dogfight down the stretch.
And this might be a stretch for some, but I think the Yankees would really have the edge if they resigned Damon. Without him, I think the Yanks and Sox are even. With Damon, I think the Yanks get the advantage, overall. Right now, the Sox are better in left field. Damon would give the Yankees that advantage.
by FloridaownsFSU on Jan 18, 2010 11:44 AM EST reply actions
The Rays are going nowhere
one year wonders. No pen. BJ upton may or may not decide to play hard.
Trade Beckett !!!
Rays
I just don’t get the Rays love for 2010….maybe in the future with the pitching staff they could field
Longoria is a stud as is Crawford but really….no catcher, Pena is way overrated…Upton has not been able to find himself….bullpen is a mess……Shields/Garza inconsistent.
I’ll give them 88 wins tops
Pena is nothing to sneeze at.
.871 and .893 OPS is pretty solid. That INF of Longoria, Bartlett, Zobrist and Pena is among the best in baseball. It’s CF and RF where they have major issues, but this Desmond Jennings kid seems to be very good.
But it’s their pitching that scares me. Lot of talent there. If they put it together, they could be highly competitive. And if they catch lightning in a bottle agan in the ‘pen, they’ll could be very good.
I know, big “if,” but I wouldn’t write them off completely. This is a very similar team to the one that won the division in 2008.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
"If they put it together"
that would involve BJ Upton showing off his considerable talents.
And if he did, CF would cease to be a “major” issue. And I think Matt Joyce and Gabe Kapler could do just fine in right.
My bold prediction is that they earn 1 of the 2 playoff spots out of the East. Either the Yankees or Red Sox will be sitting at home come October.
by FloridaownsFSU on Jan 27, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Rays
Not writing them off in the least – just don’t think they’ll sneak up on anyone and have a ton of question marks – I’ll still go with 88 wins in the East
Pitching staff is solid and likely that Price will get better and maybe Davis steps up….but Shields, Garza, Niemann – not ace types in my book
New York not retaining Damon
puts the teams dead even in my eyes.
Damon in NY would’ve given the Yankees the undisputed advantage, in my eyes. But they didn’t.
Lefties
So Randy Winn signs to spend some time roaming the NY outfield
Looking at 2009 OF splits versus lefties
Winn – OPS 0.384
Granderson – OPS 0.484
Gardner – OPS 0.781
Swisher – OPS 0.868
So Swisher, Granderson, Gardner vs the southpaws?
Those Gardner numbers are very small sample size
My recollection is he’s not generally very good against lefties either. He’s been used pretty much as a platoon player against righties, so I would be surprised if that wasn’t the case.
Yankee Fan
I think the Redsox offense is not even close to what it was during their World Series Run.
What made them great was the Clutch hitting of Manny /Ortiz and Varitek during the playoffs. The fear is not there anymore IMHO.
Ortiz is a major question mark.
The pitching is awesome no doubt and defense is improved.
I place the Yanks as Div Winners and the redsox /rays and mariners fighting for wild card.
The yanks have the better bullpen and it is deeper than people think.
It shoudl be anothe rfun year debating and watching the games
good luck -
Papi/Manny circa 2004 was the best 3-4 combo is 70 years.
Agreed that we’re not quite there. But we’ll hit enough to win some games, especially with our pitching and defense.
And I’m not seeing your bullpen beyond Mo and Hughes – if in fact Hughes remains in the ’pen.
Manny ain't the only bad man.

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