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Boston Red Sox at Chicago White Sox, Sep 4, 2009 8:11 PM EDT


 

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Friday, Sep 4, 2009, 8:11 PM EDT
U.S. Cellular Field

Paul Byrd vs Freddy Garcia

Clear. Winds blowing from left to right field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game time temperature around 70.

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Wow, that thing is huge. Byrd v. Garcia esta noche. Battle of the has-beens.

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Work starts at 8:30

Blech. MLB.TV better be working for once, or I will RIOT.

Daisuke doesn’t suck through the first 3 innings. And some rare love to Tito from me for this:

"[Daisuke’s pitch limit is] about 75-ish, hopefully not all in the first inning,’’ Francona said.

by Ben Buchanan on Sep 4, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the most honest and funny thing he's ever said

good to hear him not being super delicate with his players egos like he usually is.

by revived0103 on Sep 4, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not looking bad so far.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's done.Here's his line:

4.1 IP 4 H 2 ER 1 BB 3 K 2 HR.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats upsetting

He gives up hrs in the minors whats he going to do at the major league level

by obrient15 on Sep 4, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's the minors

I’d rather see him being aggressive. If he only gives up four hits and one walk in four+ innings, I don’t care if two are homers.

by RickD on Sep 4, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's pretty bad

improvement, but still bad.

by Buzzy on Sep 4, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mediocre

Not horrible. He’s not throwing all out in a rehab start.

The key thing is that he’s not wild, and he’s not imploding.

by Ben Buchanan on Sep 4, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giving up 2 runs isn't horrible.

Would you not take a pitcher that leads the league in HR but also in ERA? What I’m saying is that the final result is what matters.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with USG

it’s not a big deal-but to answer your question in general-no. You can’t lead the league in HR and ERA in general, because of the other things less under your control-like hits- will do you in if they happen before the HRs (which again you can’t really control). Pitchers that are near league lead in HRs allowed year in and year out are usually bad pitchers. Imagine Dice last year with the same overall performance and 28 HRs allowed?

by Buzzy on Sep 4, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand that you don't want to have high HR #s.

I just want whatever it takes to win. If that’s 3 solo shots, so be it.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

because winning plus high HR totals is not a controlled proposition.

by Buzzy on Sep 4, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand.

If on any given start a pitcher gives up multiple HR, but the team wins I’m not going to get worried.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's exactly what I'm saying.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh

I’m not too worried by it. Again, he’s focusing on mechanics and getting back to speed.

by Ben Buchanan on Sep 4, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So if we want Dice-K to pitch well

we should have him pitch bad for us, release him, and wait for him to find another team? Sounds simple enough….

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Fear the Rebel Polar Bears

by crabchowdah on Sep 4, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't change the fact that it's true of just about every guy coming off the DL.

Youk went 0-for in his rehab stint this year IIRC. And look how bad he’s been.

by Ben Buchanan on Sep 4, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know it isn't good, but he was on a pitch limit.

He left when he was around 65.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha ha ha

CLASSIC.

Man I love that tuna casserole.

by Bloggy on Sep 4, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

(clutches brittle fingers together, waives them around)

“Eckcellent…”

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Sep 4, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

blame time zones

how DARE chicago not be in the east
/east coast bias

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Fear the Rebel Polar Bears

by crabchowdah on Sep 4, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Games sometimes (often) don't start at the scheduled time

Once, I was at a game that had a scheduled start of 7, but that included a pregame number retirement, so it started around 7:20 or so.

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Fear the Rebel Polar Bears

by crabchowdah on Sep 4, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright, I'm off.

Go Sox! And Jays! And O’s! And Royals!

by Ben Buchanan on Sep 4, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

K #1.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I still say

that’s Nick Green in a Paul Byrd suit.

by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*Great* control.

13 strikes in 35 pitches.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Sep 4, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry

But I don’t want to give Nick Green the 400 or so innings he’d need for a conclusive evaluation of his pitching skills. Call me a hater if you like, that’s just how I roll.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Sep 4, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they see me rolling......

Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones

by silverstreak3k on Sep 4, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I thought those were Byrd's numbers for tonight.

Wasn’t paying attention.

I was also being sarcastic in the original comment.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 4, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still want him to get the bionic hip.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Hit a ball over ME will you?"

[Hops 50 feet in the air to snag a Monster shot]

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 4, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but

I could go for a game played by guys in hover chairs

by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be interesting.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

with rockets behind them

Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones

by silverstreak3k on Sep 4, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

Paps will never get fined for being late again

by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they should get off his jock

i mean its baseball, isnt it all about being a little more laid back? and plus who wants the game to end sooner??? i didnt get that when college football started new rules for the games to go faster. if anything add an extra 3 minutes to each quarter!

Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones

by silverstreak3k on Sep 4, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's part of the entire, speed the game up deal.

They added a few rules to speed the game up.

by ruktuim on Sep 4, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*Sigh.*

If we lose tonight, I can use it as motivation for rewriting an essay/rant at least.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 4, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Off topic

but this s**t is whack.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Sep 4, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ahaha

Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones

by silverstreak3k on Sep 4, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just noticed it was Ecks voice.

For a second I thought Don/Eck went out, and it was the radio play by play.

Wow, Don sounds weird

by ruktuim on Sep 4, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Byrd, stop throwing it down the middle.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So...

Here’s where Taz becomes the best long reliever ever.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 4, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah.

Where has THAT been all my life?

by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he might be every evening

Victimized. But still here.

by gizmosandy on Sep 4, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm always arrogant.

You people need to knock me down more often.

And I love that site – it’s annoying when people don’t realize what they can do with Google.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 4, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

Google, now with 50% more attitude.

by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand

Victimized. But still here.

by gizmosandy on Sep 4, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't get it

Victimized. But still here.

by gizmosandy on Sep 4, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1) Click the link.

2) Click the red button.
3) Enjoy the sound generally accompanying a joke.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 4, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, well,

just move on to the next thing then. That’s what I do, and it got me through medical school.

by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

K #2.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

America runs on Varitek

Victimized. But still here.

by gizmosandy on Sep 4, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Vmart has made me feel better about Tek as a catcher.

Think about it this way, it ould be worse, Vmart would have thrown it over his head, and a run would have scored, and the other runner would be on 3rd.

by ruktuim on Sep 4, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather see Kottaras.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and Texas, too

/reference to one of the home alone movies that happened to be on TV so I watched a few minutes

Chowdah Chatter
Fear the Rebel Polar Bears

by crabchowdah on Sep 4, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

K #3.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 runs aint bad

one bad pitch, i believe the sox will get em back.

Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones

by silverstreak3k on Sep 4, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well yea

but only one pitch that caused the 2 runs

Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones

by silverstreak3k on Sep 4, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I tink PPL here at OTM should have low expectations when it comes to Byrd

He’s doin’ a FINE job as a 5th starter: All we need to ask him is that he gives us 5-6 innings in the 4 ERA range!

"Swing and a ground ball, stabbed by Foulke. He has it. He underhands to first. And the Boston Red Sox are the World Champions! For the first time in 86 years, the Red Sox have won baseball's World Championship!"

by bloodysock04 on Sep 4, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sad to say

5-6 innings in the 4 ERA range is good for #3 or #4 on most teams, including ours. I remember one year Kenny Rogers was the “Ace” of the Rangers because his ERA was near 4.0.

With Byrd, you’re probably looking at 5+ ERA with a scary high FIP.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Sep 4, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're making Garcia look like a worldbeater.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's beating something alright.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Sep 4, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is bad

This seems like one of those games

by obrient15 on Sep 4, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ayuh

too bad the Sox don’t have a team to back up Gonzo’s explosive bat.

by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right down the middle again.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Even Byrd's strikes are right down the middle.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

byrd sucks

Victimized. But still here.

by gizmosandy on Sep 4, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Taz warming.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another pitch right down the middle.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mr. Byrd.

Go sit in the clubhouse and read the latest Playboy please.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 4, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Meh.

He’s given us several innings when we had no other realistic options.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 4, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 =/= several.

He gave us a great chance to win his first start.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 4, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"we had no other realistic options"

like I said: Reality SUX. Go with the UNrealistic option, already. If I’m gonna be 5 down this early, I wanna be entertained. BRING IN GREEN!

by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Texas and TB

will win tonight no doubt…this is embarrasing and we can’t even hit Garcia!!
DB

by db24 on Sep 4, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TB will lose.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AT TB...

don’t bet on it..

by db24 on Sep 4, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

You mean he doesn’t know about the internet?

uh… better not tell him, then…

by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shh...

Sandy teaches us that the Internet is only good for OTM and viruses.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 4, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Victimized. But still here.

by gizmosandy on Sep 4, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but then how does pitching badly help?

If he has quick, efficient innings, he can go to the clubhouse and read while the Sox are at bat. This ain’t the NL!

Chowdah Chatter
Fear the Rebel Polar Bears

by crabchowdah on Sep 4, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did Taz grow a Goatee?

Guess hes trying to fit in

by ruktuim on Sep 4, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Victimized. But still here.

by gizmosandy on Sep 4, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not good

to lose the first of a four game series on the road!!
DB

by db24 on Sep 4, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Der.

It’s never good to lose any game – the fact that it’s only the 4th inning helps too.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 4, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This inning

will never, ever end.

Fortunately, I remember the ’net has porn.

by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon V-mart.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was talking about the out.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yay, a run.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well...

I guess Byrd’s deceptions are not working tonight…

To think we could had Petey again before he would fall apart as well…

by superferret on Sep 4, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Victimized. But still here.

by gizmosandy on Sep 4, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1901?

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2008?

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Fear the Rebel Polar Bears

by crabchowdah on Sep 4, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time for Nick Green.

"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams

by BoldandBrash on Sep 4, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We should make a lot of substitutions NOW

Kotchman, Anderson, Green, Reddick… Leave the guys fresh for the rest of the serie!

"Swing and a ground ball, stabbed by Foulke. He has it. He underhands to first. And the Boston Red Sox are the World Champions! For the first time in 86 years, the Red Sox have won baseball's World Championship!"

by bloodysock04 on Sep 4, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah

Why that rooting Corpse need rest for?

"Swing and a ground ball, stabbed by Foulke. He has it. He underhands to first. And the Boston Red Sox are the World Champions! For the first time in 86 years, the Red Sox have won baseball's World Championship!"

by bloodysock04 on Sep 4, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOODWARD TIME

Victimized. But still here.

by gizmosandy on Sep 4, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What the hell happened?!

I just landed and I have text messages saying it’s 1-12?! What?!

by sdkramer.otm on Sep 4, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

do you REALLY wanna know?

‘cause WE know, and WE don’t wanna

by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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