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Wow, that thing is huge. Byrd v. Garcia esta noche. Battle of the has-beens.
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Work starts at 8:30
Blech. MLB.TV better be working for once, or I will RIOT.
Daisuke doesn’t suck through the first 3 innings. And some rare love to Tito from me for this:
"[Daisuke’s pitch limit is] about 75-ish, hopefully not all in the first inning,’’ Francona said.
the most honest and funny thing he's ever said
good to hear him not being super delicate with his players egos like he usually is.
He's not looking bad so far.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
He's done.Here's his line:
4.1 IP 4 H 2 ER 1 BB 3 K 2 HR.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
it's the minors
I’d rather see him being aggressive. If he only gives up four hits and one walk in four+ innings, I don’t care if two are homers.
Mediocre
Not horrible. He’s not throwing all out in a rehab start.
The key thing is that he’s not wild, and he’s not imploding.
Giving up 2 runs isn't horrible.
Would you not take a pitcher that leads the league in HR but also in ERA? What I’m saying is that the final result is what matters.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
I agree with USG
it’s not a big deal-but to answer your question in general-no. You can’t lead the league in HR and ERA in general, because of the other things less under your control-like hits- will do you in if they happen before the HRs (which again you can’t really control). Pitchers that are near league lead in HRs allowed year in and year out are usually bad pitchers. Imagine Dice last year with the same overall performance and 28 HRs allowed?
I understand that you don't want to have high HR #s.
I just want whatever it takes to win. If that’s 3 solo shots, so be it.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
No
because winning plus high HR totals is not a controlled proposition.
I understand.
If on any given start a pitcher gives up multiple HR, but the team wins I’m not going to get worried.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
but if he gives up HR's consistently, that's a different story
Chowdah Chatter
Fear the Rebel Polar Bears
That's exactly what I'm saying.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
that's what Smoltz said
or words to that effect
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
So if we want Dice-K to pitch well
we should have him pitch bad for us, release him, and wait for him to find another team? Sounds simple enough….
Chowdah Chatter
Fear the Rebel Polar Bears
if you're going to be NEGative
no pleasing some people
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, goodie, Dice-K becomes the next panic move.
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We didn't NEED him when he was available.
At least not enough to pay him what the Phillies did.
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I think
in his case they’ll find they got what they paid for. Watch what happens the rest of the way.
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
A few million.
We spent that money on getting rid of Lugo and others.
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It doesn't change the fact that it's true of just about every guy coming off the DL.
Youk went 0-for in his rehab stint this year IIRC. And look how bad he’s been.
I know it isn't good, but he was on a pitch limit.
He left when he was around 65.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
(clutches brittle fingers together, waives them around)
“Eckcellent…”
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
blame time zones
how DARE chicago not be in the east
/east coast bias
Chowdah Chatter
Fear the Rebel Polar Bears
Yeah, but it's 8:10 and I was still getting an interview with Ozzie.
Actually, I probably have MLagB.TV to blame for that.
No, King Kong is on.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
Games sometimes (often) don't start at the scheduled time
Once, I was at a game that had a scheduled start of 7, but that included a pregame number retirement, so it started around 7:20 or so.
Chowdah Chatter
Fear the Rebel Polar Bears
"Wow, that thing is huge."
Thank you, BTW.
K #1.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
I still say
that’s Nick Green in a Paul Byrd suit.
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, the SS has great control...
And an array of pitches.
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*Great* control.
13 strikes in 35 pitches.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
I'm sorry
But I don’t want to give Nick Green the 400 or so innings he’d need for a conclusive evaluation of his pitching skills. Call me a hater if you like, that’s just how I roll.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
they see me rolling......
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 4, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I thought those were Byrd's numbers for tonight.
Wasn’t paying attention.
I was also being sarcastic in the original comment.
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I still want him to get the bionic hip.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
"Hit a ball over ME will you?"
[Hops 50 feet in the air to snag a Monster shot]
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yeah but
I could go for a game played by guys in hover chairs
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be interesting.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
hoverchairs as in chairs with wheels?
or hoverchairs as in chairs that actually fly? I prefer the second one.
Chowdah Chatter
Fear the Rebel Polar Bears
I want the bullpen guys to come in
in Hovercrafts.
with rockets behind them
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 4, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
Paps will never get fined for being late again
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure he got fined for being slow while pitching.
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Really?
In that case, I have another use for the rockets.
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh.
I was just going off what was usually the reason.
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they should get off his jock
i mean its baseball, isnt it all about being a little more laid back? and plus who wants the game to end sooner??? i didnt get that when college football started new rules for the games to go faster. if anything add an extra 3 minutes to each quarter!
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 4, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It's part of the entire, speed the game up deal.
They added a few rules to speed the game up.
*Sigh.*
If we lose tonight, I can use it as motivation for rewriting an essay/rant at least.
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Off topic
but this s**t is whack.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
ahaha
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 4, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't play very smoothly with Gameday running...
But pretty funny.
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I just noticed it was Ecks voice.
For a second I thought Don/Eck went out, and it was the radio play by play.
Wow, Don sounds weird
He sucked.
Only value was playing time.
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Byrd, stop throwing it down the middle.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
So...
Here’s where Taz becomes the best long reliever ever.
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it's Eck but there is an audio problem and it sounds like they are under water
Victimized. But still here.
imagine how it makes
Drugs Delaney feel.
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm always arrogant.
You people need to knock me down more often.
And I love that site – it’s annoying when people don’t realize what they can do with Google.
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Heh.
Google, now with 50% more attitude.
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
1) Click the link.
2) Click the red button.
3) Enjoy the sound generally accompanying a joke.
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Implying that you were on Drugs Delaney.
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A rimshot.
Played after a joke is made in a comedy club or show.
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OK, well,
just move on to the next thing then. That’s what I do, and it got me through medical school.
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
K #2.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
Vmart has made me feel better about Tek as a catcher.
Think about it this way, it ould be worse, Vmart would have thrown it over his head, and a run would have scored, and the other runner would be on 3rd.
I'd rather see Kottaras.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
and Texas, too
/reference to one of the home alone movies that happened to be on TV so I watched a few minutes
Chowdah Chatter
Fear the Rebel Polar Bears
K #3.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
2 runs aint bad
one bad pitch, i believe the sox will get em back.
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
More than one, but he did manage to get out of it.
Way too many in the middle of the zone.
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well yea
but only one pitch that caused the 2 runs
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Sep 4, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I tink PPL here at OTM should have low expectations when it comes to Byrd
He’s doin’ a FINE job as a 5th starter: All we need to ask him is that he gives us 5-6 innings in the 4 ERA range!
"Swing and a ground ball, stabbed by Foulke. He has it. He underhands to first. And the Boston Red Sox are the World Champions! For the first time in 86 years, the Red Sox have won baseball's World Championship!"
Yes, but dropping meatballs in the middle of the plate isn't going to keep it within that limit.
Dammit, now I’m hungry.
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeatballlllllllsssss…..
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Sad to say
5-6 innings in the 4 ERA range is good for #3 or #4 on most teams, including ours. I remember one year Kenny Rogers was the “Ace” of the Rangers because his ERA was near 4.0.
With Byrd, you’re probably looking at 5+ ERA with a scary high FIP.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
We're making Garcia look like a worldbeater.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
He's beating something alright.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
ayuh
too bad the Sox don’t have a team to back up Gonzo’s explosive bat.
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Right down the middle again.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
no, he means Btrd is real....
and reality as we know, SUX
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
All of the other teams that didn't pick him up.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
Even Byrd's strikes are right down the middle.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
batting practice
should happen BEFORE the game
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
this game could not even be much improved
by Hovercraft
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Taz warming.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
Like I said...
Best long reliever EVER.
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Resisting joke about Green Day song...
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Another pitch right down the middle.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
Mr. Byrd.
Go sit in the clubhouse and read the latest Playboy please.
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Mr. Byrd would never do something like that!
…..he read Hustler damnit :-P
Meh.
He’s given us several innings when we had no other realistic options.
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2 =/= several.
He gave us a great chance to win his first start.
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"we had no other realistic options"
like I said: Reality SUX. Go with the UNrealistic option, already. If I’m gonna be 5 down this early, I wanna be entertained. BRING IN GREEN!
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
lose.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
Texas and TB
will win tonight no doubt…this is embarrasing and we can’t even hit Garcia!!
DB
TB will lose.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
not enough
for Jenna Jameison to come over to his house.
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
she's getting that 'used porn star' look
or, uh, so I hear
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
or, if he watched MORE porn
…he wouldn’t care if he pitched tonight.
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Byrd's thought process for this game:
Gotta get out of here to get back to that mag.
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What?
You mean he doesn’t know about the internet?
uh… better not tell him, then…
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Shh...
Sandy teaches us that the Internet is only good for OTM and viruses.
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but then how does pitching badly help?
If he has quick, efficient innings, he can go to the clubhouse and read while the Sox are at bat. This ain’t the NL!
Chowdah Chatter
Fear the Rebel Polar Bears
His story was, he loved the porn, he found Jesus, Jesus didn't love him loving the porn, Now he doesn't love the porn.
Imo, more porn is needed, it helped him build arm straight!
Not at all, get your mind out of the gutter. :-P
I simply mean flipping all those magazine pages must build arm (and yes I mean) strength.
Not good
to lose the first of a four game series on the road!!
DB
Der.
It’s never good to lose any game – the fact that it’s only the 4th inning helps too.
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This inning
will never, ever end.
Fortunately, I remember the ’net has porn.
C'mon V-mart.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
I was talking about the out.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
Yay, a run.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
Cost the Red Sox the ALCS, get traded, and have one good game against us is more like it
Victimized. But still here.
Well...
I guess Byrd’s deceptions are not working tonight…
To think we could had Petey again before he would fall apart as well…
Thank you Kevin.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
put both cats in the same cage
it’ll be better than this game
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
1901?
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
Time for Nick Green.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
We should make a lot of substitutions NOW
Kotchman, Anderson, Green, Reddick… Leave the guys fresh for the rest of the serie!
"Swing and a ground ball, stabbed by Foulke. He has it. He underhands to first. And the Boston Red Sox are the World Champions! For the first time in 86 years, the Red Sox have won baseball's World Championship!"
Nah
Why that rooting Corpse need rest for?
"Swing and a ground ball, stabbed by Foulke. He has it. He underhands to first. And the Boston Red Sox are the World Champions! For the first time in 86 years, the Red Sox have won baseball's World Championship!"
do you REALLY wanna know?
‘cause WE know, and WE don’t wanna
by Mister Snitch on Sep 4, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Epic crazy comeback request pending.
Tito never answers my damn emails.
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* . . . . . . * . . . . . . * . . . . . . * . . . . . . * . . . . . .
a tumbleweed rolled across the screen
Freakin' Gonzo.
Now to find stuff for the Laundry.
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