Jays @ Sox, 9/28/09
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Sox CAN clinch tonight.
But if they do it will have to involve a loss by a team that doesn’t start playing for 3 hours. Talk about anit-climactic!
Hey, I don't have to get to sleep in an hour later tomorrow.
Obviously, this means I can stay up till like 3 AM with no side affects, right?
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Woo-hoo! no Tek tonight!
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
I wasn't happy either
But, then again, I’m a Pats fan.
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
That's standard for Bowden
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm using tonight as Pitch F/X scouting opportunity on Bowden.
Assuming I can get all my homework done while following.
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He doesn't throw that hard
He reminds me of a harder throwing Keith Foulke (same hitch in his wind up). His stuff is eh. If his control isn’t good, he’ll get hammered.
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Bad change up
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Crap.
Longo look-alike acts like him too.
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Bowden is definitely not ready for the bigs.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
To be fair
His era should be around a 5 because he was left in just to save our bullpen against the yankees.
Metric based on batted balls.
GB%, LD%, FB%, etc.
by Ben Buchanan on Sep 28, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
On the contrary...
Average is usually in the high 4s. So he’s been an above average pitcher so far.
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Well that is good to hear.
He seemed to have promise when he came in against the yankees and struck out 2/2 in like the 8th.
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Slider drops about 8ish MPH.
Change about the same.
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:O
USC running back accidentally had a weight lifting bar fall on his throat. He’s having surgery.
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Of course, ESPNEWS's tweet is a bit scarier.
Accident = “ax.”
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Which one?
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
by BoldandBrash on Sep 28, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I don
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
This is a waste of time, so I'm going to do some homework. I will probably be back.
"All managers are losers, they are the most expendable pieces of furniture on the face of the Earth." -Ted Williams
by BoldandBrash on Sep 28, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You have to put the team ahead of personal records, etc.
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
The team stood to benefit very little.
I don’t agree with going into one game with Anderson, Baldelli, and Kotchman and then all-of-a-sudden decide another game is worth messing with a game worh of rest for a PH appearance.
by Ben Buchanan on Sep 28, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Rodney Harrison, is that you?
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
I like them better when the opposition throws them.
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Won't see that in the playoffs!
tRA is the real stat.
by bloodysock04 on Sep 28, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
You'll see bad pitches.
Even good pitchers hang sliders, curves, and change ups.
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus, there's some pretty meh pitchers in the playoffs.
by Ben Buchanan on Sep 28, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
True
I’m hoping bad Burnett shows up this October.
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard something very interesting about sabathia that I never really thought of
Well he has been called a bad postseason pitcher but does anyone think it could have anything to do with cold weather? He is best in june july and august/
It might
He has been bad in April in his career (over 200 IP). He needed a heating pad early in the season. He may have trouble getting loose in cold weather.
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
He's looked fine of late.
Could also be he was breaking down later in the season.
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Perhaps he needs to hibernate.
IDK – if he thought that was so, and he really wanted a ring, then he would have gone to the Dodgers or some other southern team.
That said, he hasn’t really pitched a lot in the postseason for us to say he’s a bad postseason pitcher.
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Because he strikes me as a competitor.
It’s a pretty small sample size to judge him from. I mean, it’s like saying Pedroia sucks after watching him struggle early this season.
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but early april and may is not a small sample size
if you put that all together he has terrible numbers in those months
Who?
Lackey, Kazmir, Weaver? Heck, even Saunders could be lights out sometimes!
tRA is the real stat.
by bloodysock04 on Sep 28, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Our offense is a lot scarier than theirs.
As is our front 2.
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Figgins > Ellsbury
Abreu better numbers than Elf
Morales, Hunter, Vlad… Our offense is not a LOT scarier than theirs!
tRA is the real stat.
by bloodysock04 on Sep 28, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
the only thing that scares me about the halos
THey are going to run the hell out of us and that scares me.
This.
They’re better, but our club strikes me as better built for October, where one homer means a lot more.
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Orange County isn't hitting well lately
Kendrick has been very good in September. Abreu—.262 AVG/.387 OBP/.417 SLG (.803 OPS/.352 wOBA) has been good. But that’s it. Here’s how the other Angels have hit this month:
Aybar – .292 AVG/.351 OBP/.404 SLG (.755 OPS/.326 wOBA)
Figgins – .250 AVG/.373 OBP/.348 SLG (.721 OPS/.325 wOBA)
Izturis – .265 AVG/.329 OBP/.382 SLG (.711 OPS/.311 wOBA)
Hunter – .245 AVG/.294 OBP/.363 SLG (.656 OPS/.289 wOBA)
Rivera – 202 AVG/.302 OBP/.345 SLG.(647 OPS/.289 wOBA)
Morales – .247 AVG/.314 OBP/.376 SLG (.690 OPS/.286 wOBA)
Guerrero – .244 AVG/.293 OBP/.349 SLG (.642 OPS/.286 wOBA)
Napoli – .154 AVG/.233 OBP/.359 SLG (.592 OPS/.259 wOBA)
Mathis – .222 AVG/.243 OBP/.250 SLG (.493 OPS/.222 wOBA)
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Drugs, how do you get the slashes so fast?
Quick typing, or a source?
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I think Drugs is employed by MLB
chief statistician
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
Bud Selig would never pay me
:(
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Scary
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Cut and paste from Fangraphs
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm...
It’d be nice if they had all those stats in columns next to each other…
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Some of them are
I think only wOBA isn’t.
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It goes:
AVG on first table
OBP/SLG/OPS… wOBA
I’m basically looking for a quick importing tool for stats into slash format. Oh well.
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He's a bad hitter
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Dammit.
I know, I was just trying to will him to keep up his hot streak there. Apparently, I have done something to offend him and he wants to spite me.
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I'm surprised Ells didn't want to spite you after recent...vendettas.
by Ben Buchanan on Sep 28, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Bowden's really been able to get comfortable this year at all.
He had a really strong start down in AAA, but started to falter when he got named in all sorts of trade talks while Buck was being named as nigh-untouchable. If Buck thought he was gone, imagine how Bowden felt when he was being offered around to everyone with a catcher born after Vietnam in the preseason and everyone of interest at the break—and this is for a guy who’s actively stated he’d rather wait longer and come up with the Sox than come up with anyone else.
He’s always been a starter, but now he’s only getting spot starts with no notice and bullpen stints. This is his first time not being one of “the guys” on his team. It’s a lot to adjust to.
I think the folks down in Pawtucket should make sure he’s viewed as their #1 guy next year. Opening day starter and all that. And enough with the pen appearances. If they have spot starts they need made, OK. But we’ve got other guys for garbage long relief (Traber, Gonzalez)
Evening All!
Go Sox!!
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
Howdy, MassGal
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, this is BS
I am annoyed, moreso than when the Sox lost to the MFY. I’m not sure why though…
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
Because the Sox should beat Toronto at Fenway
Except … Bowden is pitching.
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that Hunter Jones is any better.
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Because it's the Jays, a team we're supposed to beat.
And their catcher is feasting on decent pitching prospects.
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Because this is not a team that
is going to win the WS, and will likely never make that series! I don’t wish this, but I have seen not as lot of real class from this team against the better teams.
by NG on Sep 28, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
And the playoffs are slightly better representative of the best team than a random dart toss.
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Yep, and the Angels and Tigers are lighting it up
14-14 v. likely AL playoff teams, and they’re 13-12 in September. Then there’s the Tigers: 7-15 v. likely playoff teams.
The Sox are playing .600 ball this month, and they’re 19-15 v. likely AL playoff teams.
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
And a pretty damn good team overall.
Third best talent, behind the MFY and the Rays, who have underperformed like crazy.
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Yep
Tied for the third-best record in MLB.
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I was going off Justin's Team Quality Index in the BtB Power Rankings.
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I figured
I was just emphasizing something NG might understand.
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
poor pitching
Don’t we have ANY good pitchers in our farm system? It’s been one bad performance after another from these young guys…even Bard has me wondering…
DB
Buchholz?
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Easy there man
Kelly and Pimental are 2-3 years away from the show. Dubront? Not even at Bowden level (check out his K/BB ratio not very impressive)…Tazawa will be fine after a half season in AAA tough! Remember that he was in AA at the ASB, he just had 2 starts in AAA. Injury and underachivement from Smoltz and gravy.
tRA is the real stat.
by bloodysock04 on Sep 28, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not very high on Tazawa or Bowden
They strike me as back-of-the-rotation/middle relief type pitchers, at best.
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
rushed him to the majors
tRA is the real stat.
by bloodysock04 on Sep 28, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Bowden= trade ship
Tazawa = the team looks high on him. With some seasonning, could get better (love that splitter!)
tRA is the real stat.
by bloodysock04 on Sep 28, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Bowden has little value
Tazawa has meh stuff, unless his breaking pitches get MUCH better. Even then, his fastball is below average. I see him more as a swing-starter—nothing special. I like his poise, though. He never seemed rattled, even when the other team was beating his brains in. I hope he surprises me. But I’m not holding my breath.
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
and Kotchman
Theo did it again! Look what LaRoche has done for the Braves….
DB
Look what - we don't need him.
And you can’t evaluate looking at results – PROCESSES.
- We need someone to keep up the D at 1B if/when Youk’s at 3B. LaRoche isn’t a great defender.
- Kotchman’s younger, IIRC.
Etc.
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Exactly
And getting VMart made LaRoche expendable.
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
If LaRoche was expendable why get Kotchman
they play the same position..
DB
Because he has a good glove, is younger than LaRoche, and under contract after this year
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly what I meant.
Fits our needs better.
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I know
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, Bautista is just annoying.
Ooh, Richardson.
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What's Dustin's hitless streak up to now?
I know it’s at least 0-11…
DB
Could you be a wee bit less negative?
It’s not like he isn’t trying.
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I hear you
but I’ve been a fan since the mid 60’s…loved Tony C and Yaz’s triple crown year…but this team has been an underachiever this year…I don’t care for the the way Tito handles pitchers and the way Theo trades….but I’ll keep rooting until my dying day!
DB
Great, another old guy to make us feel spoiled. :)
The team is fine – they’re one of the top 3 teams in the league, we don’t have any major injury issues, no pitcher is overworked, and we have a great farm system so that we STAY great.
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Question:
Since the mid-60s, which Sox manager has been better that Tito and which GM better than Theo?
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
2 HR and 5 RBI off 30 and 100
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't he have the most homers since like June 1?
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He might
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by Drugs Delaney on Sep 28, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Greeced Lightning, JG23, Brian Anderson, and MDC all in.
Cede defeat.
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Comeback?
Dusty doubles – there ya go DB.
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I got the email about the Tigers/Twins rain out
I bought tix for a Sox series at Motown and now I get bombarded with emails from the Tigers.
I keep saying I will unsubscribe but for some reason I haven’t. The stuff that gets sent is the stuff you can read just about anywhere. They really need some exclusive promos or something if they want me to stay on their list.
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
Randomness.
Yeah, I avoid agreeing to email sign ups like that.
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Alright, I'm going to do the Pitch F/X post for Bowden, and then the Laundry for tomorrow.
So I might be off the GT for the night.
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