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Why do people refuse to acknowledge that we weren't watching the same Papi we've seen in the past, and now, earlier this season?

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Why do people refuse to acknowledge that we weren't watching the same Papi we've seen in the past, and now, earlier this season?

We need some good discussion today. Topics to choose from include:

Will Jed Lowrie Ever Get His Job at Shortstop Back? - NESN.com

Answer the question. Or, if you'd prefer...

Jason Bay, Not Matt Holliday, Is the Red Sox' Answer for 2010 - NESN.com

Any thoughts here? Perhaps this will affect your decision:

The story behind how Jason Bay started stealing bases - Full Count

Oddly, when I went to check the EqBRR's of each of the choices, Bay (0.86577) beat Holliday (-0.90399). I would have expected the opposite, but I guess this is one of those cases where the guy without speed learns better techniques.

And, for the less confrontational, here's a less controversial topic...

Guess the postseason roster - Extra Bases

Fire away - after you check to see how the current rotation schedule sets up:

Rotation change - Extra Bases

Friday Sept. 25: Jon Lester

Saturday Sept. 26: Daisuke Matsuzaka

Sunday Sept. 27: Paul Byrd

Monday Sept. 28: Josh Beckett

Tuesday Sept. 29: Clay Buchholz

Wednesday Sept. 30: Tim Wakefield

Thursday Oct. 1: Jon Lester

Friday Oct. 2: Daisuke Matsuzaka

Saturday Oct. 3: Josh Beckett

Sunday Oct. 4: Clay Buchholz

After the jump: Schill shares his wisdom, Dice-K shows off, Beck feels confident, the Instructional League rosters are revealed, I try to rewrite Papi's stats, we reminisce about the past decade, and thank the injury bug for staying away this year, for the most part.

Star-divide

Schilling: ‘There Are No Fakes and Frauds In October’ - Full Count

Just the ones who manage to have a great series because of random variance, and then are regarded as clutch for years to come.

Matsuzaka’s Feats of Strength - Full Count

Beckett: ‘I definitely think I threw the ball better today than I have in a while’ - Full Count

Fall Instructional League Rosters - SoxProspects.com

USG shared this yesterday, but it's good to make sure everyone's up to date.

The DH Rules - Fire Brand of the American League

Maybe Papi's OPS is so low because of the HORRIBLE first two months of this season? I would hesitate to even say that was Papi batting during that time, but some imposter instead. Seriously people, stop looking at the stats without making an effort to analyze them correctly - consider whether the change in performance was random, an a actual change in skill, or the result of an injury. The eye condition thing? Sounds like the last of those 3 to me.

Red Sox represented in All-Decade honors - Fire Brand of the American League

Not sure if Evan was trying to link to the Sporting News page that actually had all this info, or if was just an auto-mention. Fun to think back on the past several years - anyone want to share a favorite moment (aside from the obvious)?

Injuries Among the Contenders - Fire Brand of the American League

Even with the injuries to Jed, Youk, Wake, Green, and Lowell, we really haven't been hit as hard as we could have.

BtB Power Rankings Updated

And, finally, for those of you who happen to have one of a certain series of devices:

FanGraphs iPhone App - FanGraphs Baseball
NICE. Too bad I lack the hardware.

Let the debates begin! If you'd rather just comment or share links, don't feel pressured. It's just what all the cool kids are doing, that's all.

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From the Lowrie article:
his stats of .399/.505/.734 made him look like Barry Bonds on steroids.

Isn’t this redundant?

In any event, I think it’s obvious that 2010 starts with Lowrie penciled in as the starting shortstop. Here’s to hoping he can stay healthy.

Man I love that tuna casserole.

by Bloggy on Sep 25, 2009 9:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It was more of a joke than anything, I guess.

Kinda like Andrew Dice Clay looks like the Fonz on steroids. Actually, not at all like that, but I figured I’d throw that old joke in anyway. It’s not nearly worth explaining to be honest.

Man I love that tuna casserole.

by Bloggy on Sep 25, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jason Bay is the answer

to the question: Who do the Sox sign when Holliday goes to New York? Otherwise, unless he takes some sort of discount to play in Boston (which he shouldn’t have to), Holliday is the right choice. His offense is comparable to Bay’s, and he defense is far better.

The apocalypse scenario is Matt Holliday loves St Louis and stays there, while New York signs Jason Bay to huge money. Then we’re left with a choice of going young (Reddick?) or old (Judas Damon, C’mon DOWN!), both of which are downgrades. I don’t think Youk, Ortiz, Lowell and Drew is a deep enough middle-of-the-order, especially with the last three injury risks.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Sep 25, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we definitely need one of the two.

Hopefully we don’t finesse our way outta not getting either.

Man I love that tuna casserole.

by Bloggy on Sep 25, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you mean

“finesse our way INTO not getting either.” We DO want to finesse our way outta getting neither, because that way we get one of them.

Personally, I don’t find that not enough negatives is never confusing.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Sep 25, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, I typed that....

…and thought, “Jesus, I don’t think that makes any sense whatsoever.” But then assumed that y’all’d be able to figger out whut I meant. :)

Man I love that tuna casserole.

by Bloggy on Sep 25, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

Holliday is not going to NY. They are going to resign Damon.

by Lolmoarpl0x on Sep 25, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've heard similar things.

Seem to recall how Cashman was happy to stick with Nick Swisher at first base, right before he threw nearly $200 million at Leigh Teixeira. Funny how that worked out.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Sep 25, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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