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Has this ever happened to you?

Boston Red Sox @ Kansas City Royals GameThread, Sep 23, 2009 8:10 PM EDT - Over the Monster

Taz is up.I thought he was shut down - Pesky Fan

Oki - USG

hmm - Pesky Fan

If so, you're going to get really confused pretty soon:

Sox set standard for Japanese players - redsox.com: News

One of the reasons why trading Dice-K would be a bad idea - we're starting emerge as the most prominent team for Japanese players. Always good when the Little League players are filling in Favorite Team with Boston Red Sox.

After the jump, we examine the way some people evaluate pitchers, trades, signings, injuries, and struggling players.

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"Not Indicative" - The Joy of Sox

YAY!!!! Another Sox blog has picked up the anti-WINZ campaign. Hopefully, this will trickle down to the Mainstream Media - yes, trickle DOWN to them.

Red Sox wouldn’t trade results of Ramirez-Crisp deal - The Boston Globe

Not that they could, or that this is how trades should be evaluated - just a good reminder of what how the team has changed in the past several months.

Bay could be 2010's Teixeira - The Bottom Line

So... he's going to be a complete dbag about the whole thing? Not going to help the decision between Bay and Holliday (+Boras). Hopefully, we can get by without huge contracts.

Red Sox' performance bonuses are beginning to kick in - projo.com

Good to see Wake's being rewarded for his loyalty. No Schill-WS-like clauses anymore though.

Lowrie waits for left-handed test - Full Count

I <3 Jed. Hope he gets his shot before the playoffs - we really shouldn't be relying on Gonzo in the playoffs. Kind of sad how badly management dealt with his wrist injury though. Perhaps it was paranoia from the Nomar fiasco (which makes Jed seem like a big piece of the plan).

Change in Delcarmen fortunes would be relief for Red Sox - The Boston Globe

Yes, it would. He's got great stuff, but he just can't utilize it. If he can get his trade value back up to a respectable level, I wouldn't be surprised to see him shipped off for something decent.

How should teams go about certain operations? Any specific clauses that should be included in contracts more often? Any really weird clauses you've come across? Links and comments are welcomed, appreciated, and even begged for.

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Greinke has been unbelievable this year

but how does his performance compares to my all-time favorite Red Sock at his prime?
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/1999-pedro

"That was a lot of fun… You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." Jeff Francoeur

by radiohix on Sep 24, 2009 5:22 AM EDT reply actions  

RE: Bay/Teixeira dealio

I really don’t buy the whole “let’s not sign Teix so we can sign Bay” theory. Sure, both would have been hefty contracts to carry, but the Sox wouldn’t have made such an aggressive push if they didn’t 100 percent intend to sign him.

by Randy Booth on Sep 24, 2009 9:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Not like we couldn't have signed both.

Manny (and his $20 million) was gone, Bay was making less, Tek and Lowell will soon be gone.

Of course, we couldn’t sign Tex, ’cause he wanted to go to New York. At least the Sox interest pushed up the price for the Yanks.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Sep 24, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

The intent was there...

I thi they intedned to saiign Tex, but when the prce got to a certain point, they had to consider the future. We all know the Sox have bajillions, but I can guarantee you that if they had signed Tex, they would not pay what Bay will be asking this offseason.

When it came down to it, Theo and Co. had to chose one or the other and they had the depth at 1B because of Youk.

I will admit that they could have signed Tex and hoped that Bay had a mediocre season, keeping his value down, but why would you wish for a mediocre season from a guy you want to sign?

Bottom Line: Yes, Tex was proabably always going to NYC, but I’d bet that if the Sox made a big enough offer, he would has signed here in Boston.

Should be interesting…

That ship has sialed, but the Sox can’t afford to let S.S.Jay-Bay float way over a few million.

by bottomlinesox on Sep 24, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

How big would the "big enough" offer be?

The MFY would have matched pretty much anything the Sox could have offered. Teix is already overpaid at $22.5 million. How much more would the Sox have to have offered? $25 million? $27 million? Once you do that for one player, it’s much harder to hold the line on payroll. In the long run, the Sox may be better off because they lost out on Teix. They simply can’t spend money like the MFY.

Here’s something to consider: Teixeira and Bay are very similar hitters. This year, Teixeira has hit .950 OPS/.402 wOBA compared to .936 OPS/.402 wOBA for Bay. Their career numbers are close too: .923 OPS/.391 wOBA for Teix and .898 OPS/.385 wOBA for Bay. Also, Youkilis is having a great year: .953 OPS/.410 wOBA.

In this economy, Bay will probably be luck to get $15 million. The MFY are looking to trim payroll. They may keep Judas at a pay cut. Holliday is also out there, and there are few teams that can afford either Bay or Holliday. There isn’t likely to be a bidding war with the MFY. Even if they’re in the market, they can only sign one of the two players. Assuming the Sox re-sign Bay at 4 years/$60 million or something like that, they will have saved a ton of money they would have spent on Teixeira, while locking up a similar hitter. This leaves the Sox in good shape after 2010, when they lose a lot of payroll in Papi, Lowell, etc.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Sep 24, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're turning Japanese

I guess we have to keep Dice-K until Yu Darvish becomes available, right? I’d be up for that.

DFA Beckett

by South Coast Ghost on Sep 24, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

We'll see if he ever does.

He seems to like the Japanese leagues.

by Ben Buchanan on Sep 24, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

:(

I still want Fujikawa – mostly because I have his jersey, but also because he has an awesome fastball.

by bdalebs on Sep 24, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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