The Ballad of Victor Martinez
Last year, on August 1st, Jason Bay was 0-2 with 2 walks in his first game with the Red Sox when he hit a triple off the monster, setting Jed Lowrie up for a walk-off infield single against the Oakland A's. It was a reassuring moment for a fanbase which had just seen their team's biggest star and a central member of 2 championship teams traded. Jason Bay would post a .897 OPS in his time with the Sox in '08, and perform admirably in the playoffs.
This year, August 1st was marked by Victor Martinez going 1-5 in an unimpressive Red Sox debut. He drove in a run, yes, but it was far from the moment Jason Bay had. Since that night, however, Martinez has done nothing but impress, batting .326/.411/.534 in 156 plate appearances.
If those numbers are not impressive enough, he's been putting them up at the most crucial of moments. It was Victor Martinez who ended the Red Sox' 31 inning scoreless streak with a home run against the Yankees (even if it was in a game the Sox would eventually lose). On August 14th, against the Texas Rangers, with the Sox down to their last strike and down 1, Martinez smacked a 2-run go ahead double to right. Against the Blue Jays on the 18th, Martinez doubled in Alex Gonzalez to score what would ultimately prove to be the game-winning run in a 10-9 win over the Jays. And last night (September 9th) Martinez entered into a 4-4 game with the bases loaded as a pinch hitter and hit a bases clearing double to put the Sox ahead of the Orioles once-and-for-all, 7-4.
But it hasn't just been Martinez' bat that has proved valuable for the Red Sox. Martinez' value as a catcher, questioned around the time of the trade by some, has been undeniable. He's not thrown guys out with much more effectiveness than Jason Varitek, or been particularly good at blocking balls behind the plate. Martinez' work as a backstop has been in who he's caught. For one, he's proved capable of catching Tim Wakefield's knuckleball--an unenviable duty which in years past has been fulfilled by offensive black holes and defensive mediocrities (when Doug Mirabelli is the most lauded name on a list, it's a bad sign). While Martinez hasn't had many opportunities to catch the injured Wakefield, he has looked like a natural doing so.
It's not with Wakefield, though, that Martinez' has made the greatest impact . Instead, it's been with Clay Buchholz. Since catching Buchholz on August 2nd, Martinez has become Clay's personal catcher, and formed quite the rapport with the young starter. The results have been impressive enough to silence almost all of the skeptics, some of whom, just over a month ago, had been suggesting the Sox give up Clay Buchholz in the trade for Martinez.
Last year, Jason Bay had big shoes to fill. With Manny Ramirez gone, Bay stepped up and was one of the team's best weapons going forward, as he has been this season. Victor Martinez came to a slumping team, and had an inauspicious beginning, going 1-5 in his first game and being a part of the Sox' 0-6 road trip against the Yankees and Rays just 2 games after joining the team. But for as bad as that streak was, Victor has managed to endear himself to the team and the fans all the same. Whether because of his clutch hits, or because of what he managed in turning Clay Buchholz into a legitimate part of the Red Sox' rotation, Sox fans are loving the Martinez trade.
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by USG on Sep 10, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I
was one that questioned his value as a catcher. Didn’t like his splits this year, the fact that he couldn’t really catch last year, or the trend of playing more and more 1b. However, It seems I was dead wrong. If he can continue to catch and hit together for the next 2 years it is a huge plus. I still maintain that as a 1b he is not a real upgrade over LaRoche (who has this line for the Braves:.331, .407, .575, .982OPS, 157 OPS+) but as a catcher, there is absolutely no question of his unique value.
by Buzzy on Sep 10, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's the 'intangibles'
with Martinez. I hate that term, but it seems to fit. He hits when it counts, he leads on a team that already had plenty of leaders. I don’t know he’s managed to do that so well without (apparently) ruffling feathers (especially those of a certain veteran catcher). But that is exactly what he’s done. This guy does whatever it takes. He even (and without complaint) catches Wake, which NObody (especially a certain veteran catcher) wants to do. And as you say, who knows what he’s done with Clay (it’s… intangible), but GEEZ what a change in that guy!
by Mister Snitch on Sep 10, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not only a certain veteran catcher.
But a certain veteran 3B.
by USG on Sep 10, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and a change in Papi as well
Papi has gone out of his way to give credit to Martinez getting on him, telling Papi that “Sox cannot win without Big Papi.”
I know Vmart is not Manny at the plate, but his overall contribution to the Sox and a guy to put around Youk, Bay and Papi fills that void Manny left a year ago.
Teams again have to choose who to pitch too, that stresses out bad pitchers, or at least overrate ones like Burnett.
by SoxAcumen on Sep 10, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THIS.
And how. I believe that it was the lads at Surviving Grady who referred to V-Mart as “Replacement Manny”. He fills that void of makin’ the big guy giggle. And a Happy Papi is a Productive Papi.
Man I love that tuna casserole.
by Bloggy on Sep 10, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great insights!
Wow, when you add up all the changes that have come about because of V-Mart – how did the Sox get along without him? And what’s changed that we CAN’T see?
by Mister Snitch on Sep 10, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No need to be like that, sir.
I just happen to believe that a happy employee is a productive employee. Do I think that the Sox acquired Victor Martinez to be David Ortiz’s BFF? Don’t be @#$%ing stupid.
But Ortiz has had a stressful year and I think the levity that V-Mart brings in the dugout lightens his mood. Thems….INTANGIBLES…you was speakin’ ’bout earlier.
Man I love that tuna casserole.
by Bloggy on Sep 10, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was he being sarcastic?
I didn’t pick up on that. >_>
by USG on Sep 10, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea.
There is definitely a tone of snarkiness there, though.
Man I love that tuna casserole.
by Bloggy on Sep 10, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe, I'm not sure.
But I don’t think Papi has really been particularly great since we got Martinez, anyways. Though the fact that he’s a typical Boston guy plate-approach wise. Taking more than 4 pitches a plate appearance is big on this team.
by USG on Sep 10, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no snark intended
I always use the < snark>snark tag< /snark>, so there is no mistake. (Though I rarely do snark myself.)
The comment was completely sincere, and I reiterate: Now that we know what V-Mart’s brought to the team, how did the Sox get along without him? Apparently:
• He reached Papi
• He reached Buchholz
• The team in general has responded well to him
• He’s a clutch hitter
by Mister Snitch on Sep 10, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good good.
Yeah, he’s definitely been a great pickup.
Man I love that tuna casserole.
by Bloggy on Sep 11, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Untrue
Did you bother checking the stats Bloggy? Papi has been sporting a league average .777 OPS since we acquired Victor. In the 20 games right before we got Victor he was good for a .873 OPS. You really should check your facts before making statements like this.
by Gnick on Sep 10, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. I didn't bother to check the stats, Gnick.
You’re right. I had noticed an immediate effect, visually…by watching the games. That may have leveled out since the original arrival.
But when Papi was first announced as being on the LIST OF 103, it seemed to weigh heavily on him and he began slumping mightily again. When Martinez showed up, it seemed to lighten him up and he began swinging decently again.
Check the stats on that and let me know…that’s just how I remember it.
Man I love that tuna casserole.
by Bloggy on Sep 11, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But you are so clearly wrong
I don’t understand how you can possibly say that Papi has improved since Victor came here when by every offensive metric he has gotten worse. If you’re watching the game then you’re not paying attention, because Papi has indeed been worse.
As for an immediate effect that has leveled out, well in the first ten games we had Victor, Papi went a robust 5-40, and sported a .372 OPS, so that statement is actually more absurd than the original one.
by Gnick on Sep 11, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you is so clearly ign'nt.
I guess what I was saying is that if I was wrong, by all means show me and I’ll admit to being wrong. I just seemed to recall it that way. I don’t study statistics (as has been discussed here on more than one occasion), but I seem to recall watching certain games (not all of them) and reading various blogs supporting the same thing that I had perceived.
If it’s not the case, I’ve got no problem whatsoever with someone saying, “Actually, Bloggy, if you look at the stats….” and I’ll say, “Oh. Shows what I know.”
I guess what I’m saying, young Gnickerbocker, is that you don’t have to be such a cheesedick.
Man I love that tuna casserole.
by Bloggy on Sep 11, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*sigh*
Yeah…I’ve been regretting hitting post on that one. A little overboard at the end, perhaps. I stand by what’s said…shouldn’t have added that tag on the end.
I apologize to the group.
Man I love that tuna casserole.
by Bloggy on Sep 11, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It should be expected that you check the stats
before making statements. It is necessary to maintain the high level of discourse generally found on this blog, and when you just say things without any logical backing you are taking down the overall quality of the blog. I’m not being a dick by pointing out the fact that the statistics indicate you are incorrect.
by Gnick on Sep 11, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, please.
I’m not being a dick by pointing out the fact that the statistics indicate you are incorrect.
Only in the way you do it. As for the rest…I’d rather not get started. Let it go. I’m trying to move on.
Man I love that tuna casserole.
by Bloggy on Sep 11, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2-2 with a 4.75 ERA
Excuse me if I contain my excitement, but with a 1.65 K/BB throwing to Victor I’m gonna hold off on saying Victor made him better.
by TroyPatterson on Sep 10, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I prefer to look at trends.
Like the 24:8 K:BB over his last 5 starts
Or the 1 terrible, 2 good, 1 great, and 3 fantastic starts since his first time with Martinez where he admittedly blew up. It’s not the most statistical of approaches, admittedly, but when I see results combined with the fact that he just plain looks good, I feel a bit more secure in moving into more subjective measurements.
Actually, his curve and change are empirically awesome according to Pitch FX.
by USG on Sep 10, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
He is showing signs of getting better although the sample size is still small. I just question how much we account to catchers. Would he really still be throwing a 1.50 K/BB if it was Tek behind the plate(not supporting Tek) or is he just taking the step forward and working to control his walks.
by TroyPatterson on Sep 11, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG WINS!!!!
I have no problem with Buch trying to be a groundball pitcher – he’s still got the great stuff to get the swing-and-misses when needed.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 10, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sox summary in my mind at this moment.
Last year, the three main drawbacks-unpredictable players-momentum suckers on the Sox for me were Varitek, Lugo and Wakefield to a lesser extend. Lugo is gone (thank goodness), and Wakefield is also likely gone (I do think I will win my bet!). That leaves Varitek whose average is heading for below 200 and whose abilities in the clutch are astronomically bad. He needs to go and the sooner the better.
On the good side, the Sox have a third starting pitcher to add to Beckett and Lester, and that is Buchholz. He looks to be the most impressive of the lot someday. The other good news is Victor Martinez and Alex Gonzales (to a lesser extent). Also, the resurgent hitting of Mike Lowell is a great plus as well. Finally, I like Bard and Wagner in the pen.
So what does it all mean? It means that the pieces for a pretty good season ending run are there but there are also real liabilities. Will some in the pen continue to fail? Will Beckett be alright? Will management play Varitek too much and hurt the team? If this team goes down without making the playoff, it will be because Francona missed the good and played the bad too much. Let’s hope he sees it the way I do for a change.
by NG on Sep 10, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, one more thing.
We really really badly need a DECENT fourth starting pitcher.
by NG on Sep 10, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not in the ALDS, but
I agree with your point.
It will probably be Wake or maybe even, crossing my fingers, Dice-K.
If you look at all the playoff type teams, each team has a solid #1 and #2, an above average #3 and then its just a crap shoot.
The Yankees have major questions about Burnett as does the Angels about Kazmir.
by SoxAcumen on Sep 10, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some good and bad points
How is Wakefield a “momentum sucker”. The guy has pitched very well this year. He’s got some health issues at the moment, of course, but he’s stopped skids, rested the bullpen, and kept the Sox in games pretty much all season. His knuckler is unpredictable, sure, but he’s been good for us this season, far as I’m concerned.
V-Mart and Gonzo have definitely been great for the team, as has Lowell’s resurgence. Varitek…yeah, his numbers are no hell (and he’ll swing at anything that’s above his eyebrows with 2 strikes on him), but he is a good person to have so that VicMar doesn’t have to catch everyday (which history shows hurts his numbers). I think he does manage a game well…but is definitely beyond his everyday-player stage.
Man I love that tuna casserole.
by Bloggy on Sep 10, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me put it this way concerning Wakefield:
When he pitches, it is like riding on a bald tire with sidewall damage as well. You never know when a catastrophic blowout will come, but it is likely to happen over normal tires! The reason why, IMO, he is hurt and probably through for good now is that he tried so hard this years, which shows, but at his age, that effort did him in. Soi it is a combo of unpredictable stuff, which I do not like, and hanging around too long, just as Varitek has done.
Makes me wonder if the Sox do not realize the human condition with aging??
by NG on Sep 10, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, because that's why they've focused on the farm system hugely over the last decade.
They don’t realize the value of youth, and thus…do seek it?
But again, regardless of reliability, Wake has been worth more than his 4 million contract year in and year out. And again, there’s no reason to think that Wakefield’s injuries are the results of going “all out” because, quite simply, you can’t do that with a knuckleball.
by USG on Sep 10, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And why they don't sign the Damons/Pedros of the baseball world to bigass contracts
Wakefield has pitched the exact same since 19-diggity-2 when he started with the Sox. It’s nerve-wracking sometimes, sure, cuz the pitch goes so slow, but I’d say this year Wake’s knuckleball didn’t flatten out any more than any of the power-pitchers’ stuff flattened out.
Man I love that tuna casserole.
by Bloggy on Sep 10, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, "going all out" would likely cause Wakefield's knuckleball to be less effective.
Overthrowing is the bane of pitches like that.
by USG on Sep 10, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"hanging around too long"
I believe that’s known as loyalty, a virtue that you’ve already stated you do not believe in.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 10, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"like riding on a bald tire with sidewall damage as well"
that was the worst analogy ever…
Homer: Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.
by DougieWentDeep on Sep 10, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Allow me to rephrase...
No bad points, really. I just disagree about Wakefield being lumped in with Lugo and Varitek.
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by Bloggy on Sep 10, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not on the DL yet, NG.
And I’d think him being worth 2.4 WAR pretty much puts him clearly in the non-momentum sucking side of the league.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 10, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was the Wakefield bet again?
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Sep 10, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is it just me?
is it just me or is the paragraph about his clutch hits all messed up it says. “It was Victor Martinez who ended the Red Sox 31 inning scoreless streak with a home run against the Yankees (even if it was in a game the Sox would eventually lose). On August 14th, against the Texas Rangers, with the Sox down to their last strike and down 2, Martinez smacked a 2-run go ahead double to right. Against the Blue Jays on the 18th, Martinez doubled in Alex Gonzalez to score what would ultimately prove to be the game-winning run in a 10-9 win over the Rays.” is that messed up or am i crazy i read it like 12 times.
by BOsoxorNOsox on Sep 10, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Made some minor changes.
Down 1 against the Rangers.
The auto tag and link changed the Jays to the Rays…Just bizarre, that. I checked my original copy.
And one grammatical thing.
But it’s not things that would make the paragraph seem inherently wrong.
by USG on Sep 10, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a little wonky.
But we could follow it.
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by Bloggy on Sep 10, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps it needed to be bullet points.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 10, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bullet points? That is what they teach in these new-fangled schools is it? Hmph, bullet points..
by egp the great on Sep 10, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Powerpoint presentations are quite popular too
I mean, while you’re at it.
by Mister Snitch on Sep 10, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Charts and Graphs.
It’s lots of laughs.
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by Bloggy on Sep 11, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was joking...
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 11, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Er
Let’s not get carried away with the whole clutch thing. VMart is a very good player who has played well with the Sox and has a lot more value when you factor in that he switch hits and catches. He career line does not show him to be a world beater as a clutch hitter (his career “clutch” is better than average, if you put stock into that). We all witness fluctuations over small samples (eg Gonzo hitting for us now, or Green’s 7 week 811 OPS) that are not due to a skill possessed by players. Do I think VMart is a great teammate who is a very good player? Yes. Do I think he makes the team better? Sure. Does he have an ARod-like inability to seemingly hit well with the pressure on? No. Is he a superman who turns wayward pitchers into Cy Young contenders and hits like 2005 Papi in the clutch? Um..no. That does not diminish his contrabutions or value to me.
by Buzzy on Sep 10, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
.401 wOBA with the team
And a good hitter who suddenly finds himself in a hitter’s park.
As for clutch, it’s not so much about what he will do as what he has done. The fact is that he HAS been clutch for us. There is no projecting clutch outward, at least not positively. But there’s no taking away what he’s done.
by USG on Sep 10, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure,
and LaRoche has had a 0.418 wOBA with the Braves, what is the point? I am not taking away what he has done, I am trying to temper some of the moderately weird comments here. For example, people seem to think his “clutch” performance is a “skill” that will somehow continue in the indefinite future. That is silly-as silly as assuming that AGonz will not revert to being the worst hitter in the league. Fluctuations over small samples are just that-fluctuations. They are not skills. The irritating part of that is when your manager starts confusing this (eg “I didn’t pintch hit Lowell there with Howell pitching, because, you know, Gonz had been on everything of late.”)
VMart has been huge, and is a great addition. He has not made Papi better, turned Buchholz into a beast, or cured cancer, and we should not make false expectations out of these perceptions.
by Buzzy on Sep 10, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Smoltz and Penny have such and such ERAs with their respective NL teams.
Anyways, I don’t think he’s had an effect on Papi, no, but I do think he’s effected Buchholz, who has been getting very comfortable with him behind the plate. Martinez hasn’t caught his last 8 starts by coincidence. They’ve got the chemistry that I guess Buck wasn’t feeling with Tek after last year.
You gotta expect that going from “No-hit hero” to “Shellshocked Minor Leaguer” in one year’s time had to breed some distrust there. Buck is comfortable with Martinez, and has settled into his own as a good #3 type.
by USG on Sep 10, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Na
That’s silly. We have been through this before: the NL does not inflate HITTING statistics. That’s why Teix, Miggy, Bay, Griffey, etc hit the same in both leagues. The reason pitcher’s have lower ERAs in the NL is that the lineups are not as deep, the pitcher hits, and there are more pitcher’s parks. This has a quantifable effect on ERA. LaRoche has a higher wOBA because he has been a better hitter.
Second, even in the context of pitchers only, the discussion of Smoltz and Penny is silly too. We are talking about a handful of starts. Cliff Lee started off on fire in the NL and has been rocked his last few starts. It does not mean anything-let’s not fall into the trap of ascribing meaning to blocks of 2-3 starts. That illustrates my point about fluctuations vs. skill.
VMart’s home/road splits with the Sox do not give any evidence for the fact that the better hitter’s park is the reason for increase in wOBA. On the contrary, he has a putrid .625 OPS at Fenway and an awesome 1.100 OPS on the road. Guess what-it is a pure fluctuation that will regress. He has always been a .360 wOBA guy and he will be that (+ a bit extra for the park) in the future.
As for Clay, his problems were not related to Tek. He showed up in ST in 08 with a bad attitude and pitched relatively poorly in the Spring. It was not Tek, it was Clay. Tek or VMart are not throwing the pitches-Clay is. It is nice that he feels comfortable with VMart, but cERA is a bunch of crap and you know it. If Clay feels more comfortable with VMart that might help his head-but that is a statement about Clay, not the kind of game VMart calls, etc.
by Buzzy on Sep 11, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with most all this, but have to say:
If Clay feels more comfortable with VMart that might help his head-but that is a statement about Clay, not the kind of game VMart calls, etc.
If Clay feels more comfortable with Martinez, that is not only a statement about Clay, but also says quite a bit about VMart. If he has a personality that can coax Clay into better achieving his potential, that is definitely something worth noting.
Man I love that tuna casserole.
by Bloggy on Sep 11, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Confidence
That is the difference between Clay Buchholz now v. then. I cannot say for certain if that is all bc of VMart, but his confidence started to kick in around the same time.
As a former college 2 sport athlete, I can say for certain that personalities mean ALOT. My HS point guard was a complete A hole, I wanted to kill that guy after every game and I hated every minute on the floor with him. When he graduated, and a freshman took over with less skill, my game improved drastically. In college I played with one of the best PGs I have ever played with and again my game went up a notch. Victor might not be responsible for everything, but if Clay is comfortable with VMart, his game will improve.
Tex comes off like a hard ass, for Beckett and Lester, that might work, but Buchholz might need a different approach.
by SoxAcumen on Sep 11, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still disagree that the NL doesn't help hitters.
If a pitcher is considered to be effective in the NL against weaker lineups, he will get starts.
If same pitcher is NOT considered to be effective against stronger AL lineups, he will not get starts.
It doesn’t take too much of a logical jump to
Let me put it this way: Imagine if EVERY team’s 4-5 was Brad Penny and John Smoltz, allowing for a steady diet of meatballs and high fastballs 2/5 of all games played.
by USG on Sep 11, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Comb through the data
for hitter’s that have changed from NL to AL or AL to NL and correct for park. The conclusions I recall were that the differences are much smaller than for pitchers for the obvious reasons.
by Buzzy on Sep 11, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Bronson Arroyo has been a much better hitter in the NL
:)
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Sep 11, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about Matt Holliday?
He looked lost in the AL, now he is back to mashing in the NL again.
by SoxAcumen on Sep 11, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holliday struggled in the AL
But it’s a small sample on a lousy team—in a pitcher’s park.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Sep 11, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
even if true
one player does not prove a rule. But he was playing in the most sever pitcher’s park in the league. And after May 1 his monthly OPSs were 872, 814 and 986. Those are pretty damn good numbers. Adjusted for park, they are Teixiera-like #s. He only had a bad April
by Buzzy on Sep 11, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is called momentum generating, as opposed to
m0_______, well you know! Just the oppose from a veteran catcher the Sox have kept around too long!
by NG on Sep 10, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes!
Great trade for the Sox. Martinez has been invaluable,as J-Bay has been.
by havildar on Sep 10, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't like it at first
I thought the Sox had bigger fish to fry at the deadline but I really like VMart. Everyone seems to. Every game I get to see down here everyone around him is smiling and joking around. At the plate I always see opposing batters chatting and joking around with him, same when he plays first. He gives a lot to this team beyond good offensive numbers. He isn’t the best player in the league but I think he has been the best player on the Sox since the deadline.
Looking forward to what he can do in the postseason!
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by Rogue Nine on Sep 10, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So... can we appologize to the Indians fans who hated us for basically stealing him...
and not being satisfied, originally?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 10, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, so anyone looking for a real Ballad
I suggest you check up on it over here.
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