Is Jonathon Papelbon Okay?
At first glance the answer seems simple. Papelbon has 21 saves, and only 2 blown saves; he is pitching to an incredibly effective 1.70 ERA; he only has one loss. All of these stats would lead you to believe the guy is having one of the best years of his short, magnificent career. But anyone that has been watching the guy pitch all year will tell you that he is not getting batters out as easily as he has in the past. His saves seem to be taking a little extra effort. And looking at the numbers, the way he has been pitching he's lucky that his ERA is not closer to his FIP of 3.93.
So how has a guy who is putting people on base at a significantly higher rate than in the past not getting lit up? Mostly because of his entirely unsustainable Left On Base Rate of 96.9%. So of the 48 men that have rached base against Papelbon this season (probably a few more, but I'm not sure how many have reached on errors), only three of them have managed to score (and one or two of those runners must have scored once he was pulled or something because of the slightly off LOB%). A rate that high is a result of a run of good fortune and most likely will not sustain for the second half of the season.
There appears to be a few contributers to the higher walk rate. One, he is simply throwing less pitches inside the strike zone. This year only 49.5% of his pitches are inside the zone, compared to 57.1%, 55.9% and 54.5% in his three dominant seasons. Also, batters are chasing fewer pitches outside of the zone this season, swinging at only 26.6% of pitches thrown outside the K-Zone, compared to 29.5%, 31.3% and 34.3% in the previous three seasons.
These two are most likely related. Batters realize that he is hitting the strike zone less, so they swing less in general, as shown by a significantly decreased Swing%. So what has happened to Paps' control? I have no clue, but I do know that at some point it will catch up to him. A pitcher simply cannot walk as many people as Paps' this year and expect to be successful. A walk rate around 4 BB/9 is more similar to someone like Jose Mesa, a guy who regularly saved 40 games per year, but blew 7 or 8 in the process. That is simply not acceptable, and hopefully Paps figures it out before he starts actually costing the Sox games.
Obviously there is not anything the Sox should do about this. His 3.93 FIP is still very good, but it is simply a long way off from the low 2 FIP's that he has put up in the past. Basically this year he has pitched more like a Jose Mesa in his prime than a Mariano Rivera in his prime. And luckily this season the Sox have enough great pitchers in the bullpen that they have themselves covered in case he does blow a few saves.
Nota Bene:
Paps has only pitched 37 innings this year. That is not very many and there is a chance that all of those walks are just statistical noise. Last night's outing, where he struck out the side and did not walk anyone lowered his FIP by .3 or so. So all it takes is a few innings like that and Paps' numbers would be right back to his career norms.
Also, I was going to mention something about how he is no longer throwing his Splitter, but I'm not sure that is true. PitchFx seems to think that he has replaced the splitter with a two-seam fastball, but the Baseball Info Solutions data that FG's carries on its "Season Stats" pages is still recording 10% of pitches as splitters. What I suspect is that he is throwing that splitter differently and it is confusing the computers that keep track of these things. If that is the case, maybe his inability to locate the splitter is causing many of these walks? I am not really familiar enough with these computer systems and algorithms to draw any conclusions about any of that.
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Great post.
You really break down Paps’ numbers. And of course he gets out of the ninth giving up a run and ending the game by strikeout with two men on base.
Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!
But great work.
Still would rather trade him and get a good bat in return.
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The walks aren't just statistical noise
They happened, and his control has been off so far. That said, past is not always prologue. We may see a return to the walk-stingy Paps of old for the second half of the season.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
It's hard...
… to be a one-pitch reliever in the majors, unless your last name happens to be Rivera.
I think Paps may have developed into a coaching problem – or, at least I hope so, because if not then maybe the Sox have negative info about the demise of his slider…
Rock me, sexy Jesus...
by nuthinboutnuthin on Jul 9, 2009 12:20 AM EDT reply actions
Mo is a 2-pitch reliever
Historically, he has thrown a rising fastball and a cutter. I haven’t looked into whether Mo is doing anything is different this year, but I presume it’s the same deal.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
Nice post
During spring training there was a lot of speculation (the infamous unnamed “scout”) claiming that he had a shoulder problem. His velocity was down. Well, in fact his velocity is not really down, It is the same as it was in 07 and slightly lower than it was in 08. He seems to have lost the feel for the splitter, and perhaps that is part of the issue with opposing batter’s O-swing %. The splitters I have seen him throw bounce two feet in front of the plate. Recently he claimed that he was trying to throw the splitter early in the count because he had become too predictable, but then we see efforts like last night where he needed close to 40 pitches for a one inning save. Perhaps there is a mechanical issue, but regardless-it is real and it is not sustainable.
The pitch count issue is important too.
Even if he is able to weasel is way out of these situations that he’s putting himself in, he is still throwing too many pitchers. After throwing those 40 pitches will he even be available today? I would not think so. And then maybe we only get 55 innings out of the guy instead of 70 and that lowers his value significantly.
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
Well, we never pitch Paps 3 nights in a row anyways.
(Except for that Baltimore series where he went out and threw 3 pitches to record the final out)
So that’s no great difference.
30 pitches last night FYI.
Interestingly
84 games in, Paps has already thrown 38 innings. He’s on pace for a career-high 73 innings pitched (high last year was 69.1).
One area that hasn’t been mentioned yet is the playoffs, where Papelbon has enjoyed phenomenal success. He has a 0.00 ERA with 0 HR, 10 hits, and 6 walks in 25 innings.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
Interestingly
he tossed a career high 1051 pitches last year. This year he is up to 687, so it is even worse than the projected innings…
He's throwing more pitches per inning, which isn't surprising considering his love of baserunners now.
His WHIP is up by .42 – his highest since his first season.
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Trying new things?
For you golfers out there, did you ever notice that no matter how much you try things on the driving range, it is not until you are playing in a match that you really find out what works or not. Paps may just be trying new approaches in the only area he really can try them, the actual game arena. With time hopefully, he will sort out whatever is on his mind. I do not believe he is hurt because his velocity and ability to eventually get outs is still there.
Papelbon
Have not noticed the “fierceness” in his face this year as he gets ready for his windup. There just seems to be something missing.
FYI
Neyer discussing Papelbon. Neyer calmly concludes that all will be well. Obviously has forgotten that we’re all that stands between MLB and a Yankees World Series…
Rock me, sexy Jesus...
by nuthinboutnuthin on Jul 10, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions
Good heavens you're right!
I hope Theo has lots of security for the playoffs. We don’t want Selig pulling a Tonya Harding on the team.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
but.
Tv wants Dodgers-Sox. Manny vs Bay. Francona Vs. Torre. Best possible playoff scernarios for TV is
AL:
East – Sox
Central KC (hope against hope) Yanks
West – Angels
WC
Sox in 5 vs KC (Big papi walkoff to break scoreless 11 inning dueling perfect games for grienke beckett
Yanks in 5 vs LA (Tex wins it)
Sox over yanks in 7 (6,000 runs scored 2700 homers)
NL
East- Phillies (with Doc on board)
Central – Cubbies
West -L.A.
WC STL
STL in 5 vs Phils Pujols has 264 hrs and 352 IBBs
L.A. in 5 vs Cubbies (still the goat curse lives!!, Manny brings a goat out to left field at Wrigley says its his best friend)
Mannys over Alberts in 7 game slugfest
World Series
Sox vs LAD
1st six games go extras
Game 7
Top Ninth
2 outs
Sox leading 4-1
Bases loaded
Manny up
Paps on.
3-2
Best Postseason Ratings Ever.
Once again, more informed.
Umm... wouldn't bringing the goat to Wrigley break the curse?
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wha...
Manny brings goat. You mention conflict. My hilariousness is dashed. Thanks. thanks a lot.
Once again, more informed.
No, it finds the other funny.
Manny being dumb and bringing a goat to a park cursed by a goat not being allowed in.
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Trade him now
For a high level nearly MLB ready hitter like Matt LaPorta or Alcides Escobar. The only problem is that those smaller market teams wouldn’t want to acquire a guy they thought they couldn’t afford soon. It would have to be a big market team, or a mid market team looking to win now. So I say deal him to the Rangers straight up for Nefalti Feliz or Derek Holland, if the Rangers would accept, which they probably wouldn’t.
by Gnick on Jul 12, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions
Then what?
Papelbon is way too valuable to us and has had such great success the past couple of seasons that we can’t just cut him loose after a rough patch. We’ve become too spoiled by him here in Boston, the man only has 2 blown saves and we’re considering trading him? Let’s not forget that he has the most saves ever in a Red Sox uniform. If we were to trade him (which I am strongly against), we would have to trade him straight up for another closer. Trading for a position player doesn’t make much sense seeing how its already hard to enough to find a roster spot for everybody we have right now. We don’t need starting pitchers considering we’re on the verge of a six man rotation. As for the bullpen, its one of the best in the league. My advice is to keep the man who has racked up so many saves for us the past few seasons.
We won't trade him.
Its just too risky a move. But if Bard continues to be awesome, then I would explore something in the offseason. The problem is that there are not too many major market teams that do not already have closers (and expensive relievers are a luxury that small market teams generally cannot afford.)
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
Hell, trade him to someone who will swing him to the MFY.
Then we can enjoy his drama.
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