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Red Sox trade for Casey Kotchman; Send Adam LaRoche to Braves

According to NESN, the Red Sox have traded Adam LaRoche to the Braves for Casey Kotchman.

No word on anything else on the deal.

More when it breaks.

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Anyways, Kotchman is presumably either going to be moved himself, or accept a minor league assignment. Seems like a partial salary dump to me.

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Really bizarre.

Does he have options?

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I do like Kotchman. 26yo with a great glove and cheap. I guess I’d do this straight up.

by Randy Booth on Jul 31, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's only 26?

Wow.

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by bdalebs on Jul 31, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldnt be surprised if hes flipped for someone else though…. we will see

Fehr is fair, but I like Laich

by amkcaps on Jul 31, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jul 31, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wonder if the Halofans are still in love with him?

I have no desire to check at the moment, though…

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Jul 31, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

No, we are not

He was fine, but any Halofan in the know were aware of the hot stick that Morales had waiting in the minors, and the same glove. So trading Kotchman was no loss to try and see if the we neede the “big stick” behind Vlad. I’m glad the “big stick” didn’t work. It got Sosica to fix the real issue, getting the rest of the Angel line up to hit the ball, and sart to actually work a count.

In my opinion, the era of bankiing on the three run homer is over, thanks to it being propped up by staroids. Boston’s power has dropped, with the rest of the league. Fracona has been adjusting for a while.

Trade deadline moves are the most over hyped events in sports. it might fill a small hole, but when have you ever seen it as the piece that put a team over the “top”?

by Sportzfan on Aug 1, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's a

staroid?

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Aug 1, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

A trade that put a team over the "top" would be the Nomar/OCab trade.

And Morales has a slightly worse glove: 3.0 UZR/150 vs. 6.8 for Kotchman.

Oddly, Kotchman struggled when he wasn’t the starter at 1B, posting UZRs of -5.9, -2.6 and finally 2.6 in limited time his first three seasons. Wonder if there’s something to it…

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by bdalebs on Aug 1, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Deadline almost up

Are we just going to have 3 1B on the team?

by South Coast Ghost on Jul 31, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

No way.

Theo and Tito like Versatility too much to have Kotchman, Ortiz, and Martinez all on one team.

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Youkilis?

Fehr is fair, but I like Laich

by amkcaps on Jul 31, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, check that: Is a natural third baseman.

The problem is between corner infielders and DH we’ve got 5 guys.

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i love the stockpiling of talented depth

but we are lacking depth in the outfield. baldelli is made of glass, and after that nick green can play outfield and thats not that encouraging. i bet we’ll get someone during the waiver trades.

by revived0103 on Jul 31, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anderson is a good pickup for outfield D, but you’re right. I’d like to see a power bat off the bench in the outfield…

by Randy Booth on Jul 31, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Which is why I’m so surprised that Kotchman isn’t being shipped out immediately for a role player.

Waiver deal?

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nationals just gave up Nick Johnson apparently

Could they keep Dunn in LF and we give up Kotchman and others for Willingham?

by South Coast Ghost on Jul 31, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm... how I see it:

3B: Youk, Lowell, Lowrie
1B: Youk, VMart, Kotchman, Papi
C: Tek, VMart
DH: Papi, Lowell, VMart, Youk (really anyone).
So I’d say it’s more of 7 guys at 4 positions, many of whom can play multiple positions.

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by bdalebs on Jul 31, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think saying Papi can play 1B

is charitable indeed. He needs to focus his attention on his Big Papi Eff-You World Tour Hit Parade, and not worry about making plays…

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Aug 1, 2009 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's the disaster plan.

Hence him being listed 4th. Doesn’t change the whole 7 guys/4 positions thing.

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by bdalebs on Aug 1, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard Peter on ESPN

that Kotchman is going to be coming off the bench. He is a better role player off the bench than LaRoche.

~ ROLL TIDE ~

GO SOX!!

by Bama Sox on Jul 31, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

he's got a good glove right?

could be a defensive replacement like mientkiewicz in the good old days

by revived0103 on Jul 31, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is he better than Laroche though?

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defensively? By a ton.

LaRoche is an average fielder at best.

UZR/150
2008: -8.1 LaRoche, 5.3 Kotchman
2009: -3.4 LaRoche, 5.8 Kotchman

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

well there you go. Why did the Braves do this? Kotchman seems like a cheaper, better fielding version of Laroche, except he’s under team control for two more years.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

LaRoche has waaaaay more power than Kotchman

a 25-HR guy vs. an 8-HR guy. Kotch is going to be the defensive replacement. I think we’ll see a lot more of Youk at 3B and Lowell DH’ing – platoon with Papi?

by dsharp on Jul 31, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, very good. Hasn’t made an error yet this season.

If Youk starts playing 3B primarily, we’re going to need a late-inning replacement for V-Mart…

by Randy Booth on Jul 31, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Randy...

Haven’t you learned yet that errors aren’t the only way to judge a player defensively?

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by bdalebs on Jul 31, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah.

…but they’re the metric most likely to result in a remote control suddenly becoming lodged in your picture tube.

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Aug 1, 2009 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Only because they're the most extreme.

I’d still get mad if Ells takes the wrong route and doesn’t get credited with an error because he didn’t make contact with the ball.

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by bdalebs on Aug 1, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

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