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Will Theo Make a Move?

As today's 4pm trade deadline approaches, the question on everyone's lips is this: will Theo do it? Will he pull of the trade of the decade, and grab us Adrian Gonzalez or Roy Halladay? OTM is covering it all.

The conventional wisdom among sports writers seems to be that Theo will / has to pull off a big trade. And many of us are excited about that possibility.

Unfortunately, the odds of a huge trade are very slim. You need to understand his history to get why:

Let's look at the major midseason trades Theo has done in his tenure here. Read on for more.

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Mike Gonzalez, Freddy Sanchez and $$ for Brandon Lyon, Jeff Suppan and Anastazio Martinez (2003): Theo's first trade deadline exchange sent two prospects to Pittsburgh for reliever Lyon and starter Suppan. Suppan was a good back-end starter who Theo wanted to steady the rotation. Sanchez went on to win a batting title.

Nomar Garciaparra for Orlando Cabrera, Doug Mientkiewicz (2004): This trade worked on several levels. First, the unhappy Nomah, by that point a problem in the clubhouse, was removed. Second, the new guys significantly improved the Red Sox defense. OCab also hit well for Boston, but that was a side benefit rather than the goal of the deal.

Kason GabbardDavid Murphy, and Engel Beltre for Eric Gagne (2007): Ah Gagne. Expectations were high when he came in, but his role was that of set-up man / backup closer. He would help spell Okajima and Papelbon, keeping both rested for the postseason. For that luxury, we traded a decent 5th starter, a serviceable outfielder, and a young prospect with a high ceiling. None of these players were essential to the Sox long-term plans.

Manny Ramirez, Craig Hansen, and Brandon Moss for Jason Bay:(2008): Like the Nomar trade, in the Manny trade Theo changed the clubhouse dynamics by removing a source of tension. Two young players had to go out with Manny to sweeten the pot, but they got an extra year with Bay.

Of these, the only trade that screams blockbuster to me is the Nomar trade. Manny for Bay is almost a wash - sure they're big names, but they're also almost identical. Both are right-handed sluggers who play poor defense. The trade didn't really add anything to the team, at least on paper. The extra year of Bay and the absence of Manny in the clubhouse may have been benefits that motivated the trade. Gagne was not coming in to a big role, so I wouldn't call it a huge trade.

What is the take-away? Theo Epstein is reluctant to make big deals at the trading deadline. Most of his moves are minor. His goal is to shore up an area of weakness, such as defense (Nomar), bullpen depth (Gagne) or rotation depth (Suppan).

At the trade deadline, Epstein has NOT traded prospects for a superstar slugger, or an ace pitcher. There's a first time for everything, but all the talk of blockbusters strikes me as a misreading of his philosophy. Theo and co. talk about a $100 million player development machine, and that's the best way to think of the Sox. Boston develops prospects into players and supplements them with free agents and waiver / trade pickups. He doesn't make big moves just because, and especially not at the deadline.

Given this interpretation, let's consider the names discussed.

Victor Martinez: Hitting well, poor defensively. VMart has been connected repeatedly to the Sox. But where does he fit? Catcher is occupied, and first base is a bigger logjam with LaRoche. The only way I see this going down is if Varitek is traded. Putting Martinez at first isn't a big improvement over Youk / LaRoche, and putting him at catcher could be a defensive liability. Although Tek isn't lighting the world afire with his defense, he also knows the staff and they like him, which can't be dismissed (Theo did resign Tek, after all).

Roy Halladay: The Sox, despite their atrocious defense, have allowed the fewest runs in the AL. Beckett and Lester make a strong front rotation for October, and between Buchholz, Smoltz and Penny someone should be a fine #3. Halladay would be a very expensive luxury, both in terms of prospects and money. Also, none of Theo's major trades have been intra-divisional.

Adrian Gonzalez: This seems the most likely of the proposed trades, if only because AGon is a player in the Red Sox mold: young (27), cost-controlled, OBP-oriented, and plays great defense. Much like Jason Bay, he's a contender for Iron Man awards, playing in every game the past two years and 161 games in 2007. Acquiring AGon would also be a major improvement, as Youk moves to third, Lowell and his bad defense gets traded, and the Sox gain substantially in both OBP and defense. Unfortunately, AGon would probably require both a boatload of talent and another trading partner, which makes the whole thing complicated and the likelihood of a deal very slim.

If Theo makes a move at all, it'll almost certainly be a minor, lateral move. Don't expect the jewels of the farm to leave Boston, and don't expect a superstar to come in.

Poll
What will Theo and the Sox do by the 4:00 p.m. trade deadline?
Absolutely nothing. This is a deep team that can compete already.
40 votes
A big move. They'll acquire a superstar like Adrian Gonzalez or Roy Halladay.
168 votes
A small move. They'll get a reliever, a Paul Byrd-like 5th starter. or a backup player.
50 votes
Trade Casey Kelly and Clay Buchholz for a blockbuster package of Eric Gagne, Julio Lugo, and Nomar Garciaparra.
92 votes

350 votes | Poll has closed

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I don't think he'll do anything.

But I’m not sure how much we can “compete” as is to be honest.

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

It’s really a lose lose situation we’re in this year.

by BigRedDog42 on Jul 31, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Unless someone like Shapiro has a brain fart.

/hindsight

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by bdalebs on Jul 31, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

We will see

a nice move but nothing huge. Blue Jays are asking why to much for Halladay. The Indians are in disarray but I don’t see them moving Victor even though they should. I voted for the last one because it was funny not because Theo would be that dumb.

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by E5 on Jul 31, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I.
Want.
Adrian.
Gonzalez.

’Nuff said.

I don’t care what it costs … well, kinda.

by Randy Booth on Jul 31, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

i become more and more opposed

it will cost us Buch (and more obv) and we have no replacement right now, he might be our 3rd starter going forward. I think a team with Agonz but a rotation of Beckett, Lester, Wake, Penny and Smoltz might be worse than the team we have now

by German Red Sox Fan on Jul 31, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why I'd rather wait till the offseason. But I do want AGon.

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by bdalebs on Jul 31, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Victor Martinez.

Who already has a catcher who can’t throw out more than 15%? Oh yeah, we do.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

According to Jon Heyman

Pads want Lars and Westmoreland.

Sox offer Buchholz, Lowrie and Masterson

I would do that second deal. Definitely

by Randy Booth on Jul 31, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Compromise:

Buchholz, Lars, Masterson

No Westy TYVM

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh.

If you really want A-Gon without Westmoreland or Kelly as a PTBNL, I think you’d have to be open to that possibility.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

We loose our 3rd starter and our best SS

dont like that deal at all, we atleast have to get another SS ofc.

by German Red Sox Fan on Jul 31, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heyman:

Casey Kelly and Ryan Westmoreland are “untouchables.”

by Randy Booth on Jul 31, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Heyman:

Sox inquired in on Felix Hernandez.

by Randy Booth on Jul 31, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

So did a bunch of other teams.

Mariners response was predictably “Pry him from our cold, dead hands.”

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Sox inquire on everyone

Theo does his homework.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jul 31, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who's Jeff???

Did you mean Jack?

"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."

-Jim Fregosi

by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha.

F. me.

yes.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny though

"If I ever decide to do a book, I've already got the title...The bases were loaded and so was I."

-Jim Fregosi

by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 31, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bill Bavasi says "for Mike Lowell and Jason Varitek: proven winners!"

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Jul 31, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd.

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by bdalebs on Jul 31, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the thing on MLBTR

That an executive believes the Red Sox prefer Adrian Gonzalez to Victor Martinez.

What a g.d. revelation. :)

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Much like one would prefer Roy Halladay to say, AJ Burnett.

Or Hanley Ramirez to JJ Hardy
Or Chase Utley to Dan Uggla.

Really? You bothered to quote an unnamed executive for that?

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why these unnamed executives get paid the big bucks

because they aren’t afraid to speak their minds, anonymously, and show off their wisdom.

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by 0157H7 on Jul 31, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should be getting a lot of money just

for going all this time without a name.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but who is the check made out to?

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

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by MassGal on Jul 31, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Touche, MassGal. Touche.

Rec’d.

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by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

We Need a SHORTSTOP!!!

I’d love to have Agon fer sure but we need a SS more than anything right now!! Is the biggest and most glaring hole in the overall picture for Boston right now. Green is GREEN!! Man…..

by ComeonSox on Jul 31, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

He is pretty keen on recycling, that Green.

Also got the Sox to change to those energy-efficient lightbulbs.

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by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, man, we should look into that kid, Lowrie.

I hear he’s a doubles machine, an above league average batter at an offensively starved position and he plays solid defense. AND he was injured last year and at the beginning of this year, so we should be able to get him for nothing!!!

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by bdalebs on Jul 31, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLB trade rumors

states Sox about to acquire VMart…I am stunned ;(.

by Buzzy on Jul 31, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From MLBTraderumors:

USA Today’s Bob Nightengale via Twitter: the Red Sox are about to acquire Victor Martinez from the Indians.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jul 31, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

It better cost us nothing but Bowden and that's it

I like V-Mart, but the upgrade between LaRoche and V-Mart isn’t that much.

by South Coast Ghost on Jul 31, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

hope it is wrong

cant see why trading for an 850 OPS bad defending guy soon to be on the other side of 30 makes ANY sense…

by Buzzy on Jul 31, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

This move makes zero sense to me in terms of value gained vs prospects given up.

I can only hope it isn’t true, or we basically got him from free.

by ruktuim on Jul 31, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK

I swear to God if this cost us Buchholz I’m going to go crazy.

by Gnick on Jul 31, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

i really hope this isn't true.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ed Price of AOL Fanhouse, trying to confirm, says it "looks good."

-MLBTR

Wow, Theo, what a fucking panic move. Unless we get one of their catching prospects or give up next-to-nothing, this is a joke trade.

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm hoping this is premature.

Noone else is reporting it yet anyway.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 sources

are saying-but I hope it is like the Bay to Rays last year. Please, Nooooooooooooooooooooooo.

by Buzzy on Jul 31, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You never know

There are always false reports.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

just Martinez for Buch??

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jul 31, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I was asking

because I’d think the Sox would get more

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope not

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jul 31, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just a thought

Assuming the Sox get VMart, Theo might not be done. Supposedly the price for Gonzalez was “three times the price for Halladay,” according to one writer. Maybe the Sox are looking at VMart and Halladay.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jul 31, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

hmmm

2:17 p.m.: According to the FoxSports report, the Martinez deal is straight-up between the Red Sox and Indians with no third team is involved. The report also notes that the deal will “almost certainly end” the Red Sox’s pursuit of Gonzalez, who is likely to remain in San Diego.

by Buzzy on Jul 31, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

If we do aquire Vmart do you think it's possible,

We are simply picking him up, than shipping him out as part of a bigger deal?

IE: Pick up Vmart, and include him in a package for Adrian Gonzalez or Halladay?

by ruktuim on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope.

Teams that are “buyers” (the Sox) want different players than the “sellers” (Jays, Tribe, Padres)

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would need to be a 3rd team involved.

Some sort of NL contender. Neither the Jays nor Pads will be interested in VMart.

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh well wishful thinking,

I’m really not a fan of a Vmart deal in which we give up anything meaningful.

by ruktuim on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is good news, at least

From FOXSports:

The Indians’ exact return is not known, but the Red Sox did not include either right-hander Clay Buchholz nor right-hander Daniel Bard in the deal, according to a source.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Good.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

But from Will Carroll:

Says its Buch and more.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

So maybe we’re getting Vic and someone? but who?

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now for Kelly, Westmoreland, and Reddick.

After that…I guess I’d be willing to accept it.

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jonathan Mayo from mlb.com

Hearing Hagadone is a big part of the package for V-mart

by German Red Sox Fan on Jul 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Just heard that. I’d be fine with that. Maybe Kalish too or someone like that?

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it will be for much less than we think.

Indians under pressure to cut payroll maybe?

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m gonna stick in the other thread, any and all please join me.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

It's going to be interesting to see how Vmart is used.

Do we DH him, does he play 1st with Youk at 3rd, Lowell on the bench?

or

Does he watch everyday, Tek starts catching Wake, Kot is released?

by ruktuim on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Mayo says Hagadone AND Masterson?

WTF

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

FIne with me

I didn’t really see Masterson as a very valuable player and Hagadone is a huge question mark.

by Gnick on Jul 31, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

If that's all it is, I'll deal.

But the way people are writing about it, there’s another name, which would piss me off.

Gonna need a LR type. Bowden to the ML?

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

That seems like a lot to give up for a guy who isn’t THAT much better than LaRoche, who will have to be moved now.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jul 31, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

interesting

there is only an option for next year or he is signed? you think the sox let him walk?

by Buzzy on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caveat: Just on the cusp.

But he’s got plenty of room before he falls below type-B. Getting to redo the Hagadone pick post TJS might be good.

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

VMart career OPS+118
LaRoche 113
VMart=30
LaRoche=29

Tell me why?? And if we want Vmart to catch-who catches Wake?

by Buzzy on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The answer to your Wakefield question:

The backstop.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always loved that answer

How do you catch a knuckleball?

Go to the backstop and pick it up.

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by mystman995 on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brandon Inge

Basically answered that way when asked about potentially catching Wake in the ASG.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Although that’s been said many times by many people who can’t catch one. Add me to the list. I can throw a crappy knuckler, but I sure as hell don’t want to catch one.

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by mystman995 on Jul 31, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's his OPS as a first baseman, though?

If we’re looking for an upgrade to Kottaras and LaRoche individually, we may have that in VMart.

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we’ll carry Vic, Kottaras and Tek

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Seems to me like that’d be a bit crazy when we need a 5th OF.

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they want to play Vic at DH, then they need another catcher.

And are they really going to ask Tek to catch Wake? or the aging and poor fielding new guy?

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're going to ask Martinez to catch about every 5th game.

It’s not a big deal. Kott wasn’t doing a great job there anyways.

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be nice.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

until

this year they were even-this year he is much better at first. Until now, something like 830 and 830, I think…

by Buzzy on Jul 31, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

as GRSF said

Sox to acquire Martinez; report says Masterson, Hagadone dealt-according to globe.

by Buzzy on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

additional

Sox prospects, Allen ;-).

by Buzzy on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well then count me as confused.

If Hagadone and Masterson aren’t enough for V-Mart, then let’s pull this car over right now.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be very minor names.

Either organizational depth, or a guy like Tejeda, Gibson, etc.

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hearing PTBNL

which implies a recently signed guy.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comment to be made later.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

GM guy on MLB network said,

He heard Tazawa is possibly part of the Vmart deal.

by ruktuim on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

cont

I personally don’t believe it.

by ruktuim on Jul 31, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

If so, can we say panic move?

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 good young pitchers for a 30-year old C/1B/DH

Cleveland would have to throw something else in.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jul 31, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

I really doubt Tazawa is in.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, I think it's just a name throw out there.

To me Tazawa would be a bigger haul than Masterson or Nick Hagadone.

by ruktuim on Jul 31, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we allowed to trade him already?

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

From FOX
Even with Indians catcher Victor Martinez headed to the Red Sox, there is still a possibility that the Padres will trade first baseman Adrian Gonzalez.

The Dodgers are making runs at both Gonzalez and Padres closer Heath Bell, either separately or in a blockbuster, according to major-league sources.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jul 31, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

really?

inter divison, inter-state? hard to believe…

by Buzzy on Jul 31, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

A-Gon is gonna be with whatever team gets him for a while if you ask me.

by Ben Buchanan on Jul 31, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who's the Dodger's 1B?

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by mystman995 on Jul 31, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Loney.

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by bdalebs on Jul 31, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Padres

Should take full advantage of the fact that the Dodgers’ bigwigs do not like Matt Kemp.

…maybe we should be taking full advantage of the fact that the Dodgers’ bigwigs do not like Matt Kemp.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should've traded Paps for him.

Would’ve been a great deal.

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by bdalebs on Jul 31, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Loney.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoa.

Meant to be a reply to Mystman

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Braves Interested In Adam LaRoche

First baseman Adam LaRoche becomes expendable for Boston if they complete the Victor Martinez trade; Jon Heyman of SI tells us via Twitter that the Braves are interested.bq.

Via: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/braves-interested-in-adam-laroche.html

by ruktuim on Jul 31, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

They traded him to Pittsburgh for Mike Gonzalez.

We could just do that exact trade.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

*laughs at self*

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Verducci just said Bryan Price is in

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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