Controversy Over Daisuke's Remarks
Several days ago, Daisuke Matsuzaka said some things to the Japanese media, discussing his performance in the US and the training regimen he was on. These remarks were translated as:
"If I'm forced to continue to train in this environment, I may no longer be able to pitch like I did in Japan. The only reason why I managed to win games during the first and second years [in the United States] was because I used the savings of the shoulder I built up in Japan. Since I came to the Major Leagues, I couldn't train in my own way, so now I've lost all those savings."
Predictably, statements like this caused an uproar. The Sox staff replied with pointed criticism of Matsuzaka's conditioning, his performance, and of his willingness to go to the media. See this article for details. Unfortunately, this inter-team bloodletting just intensified the media feeding frenzy.
Tony Massarotti's response struck me as particularly amusing. He issues this disclaimer:
"In the middle of this crisis, it is important to remember that Matsuzaka has no real allies or outlet in the American media and that this story is likely to be one-sided. American reporters have nothing to lose by criticizing Matsuzaka and taking the side of the Red Sox, regardless of whether the Sox have handled things in proper fashion."
Of course, Mazz says this in a column in which he accuses Dice-K of being a fat prima donna. CHB also wrote a column about this subject, which probably means that Mazz comes off looking like a Matsuzaka apologist compared to Shaughnessy.
I do not like how the Sox initiallly handled this situation. Internal personnel disputes should not be played out over the sports pages. We had enough of that with the Lucchino-Epstein rift. So it was encouraging when Francona made an effort to mend relations yesterday. See here.
I still believe that Matsuzaka can succeed in MLB. Whether his success requires better conditioning,* stricter adherence to the Sox, or a regimen more similar to what he did in Japan, is unclear. What should be clear is that it is in the best interest of EVERYONE that Matsuzaka succeed.
So far the Dice-K experiment has had ambivalent results. His 2007 was a decent year, 2008 was good, and 2009 has been an absolute disaster and is probably lost. Nobody knows what 2010-12 will bring. I still believe that Matsuzaka has the tools to succeed - he was able to work out of trouble all last season, largely on the strength of his fastball and slider. If Dice-K can figure out how to go deeper into games and throw strikes consistently, he could be a great pitcher.
But performance is just one side of the coin. Another is recruiting. Having Nippon's national hero should help with recruiting Japanese talent. Junichi Tazawa could well be a better pitcher than Matsuzaka, and if Dice-K's signing makes Boston the premier destination for other Japanese players, both veterans and young players, then it could be very good for the team's future.
*I find the obese Dice-K angle a little hard to buy. If conditioning was really the problem, how did he manage to dominate the WBC AGAIN?
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This is Tai, regular of CelticsBlog and op at #redsox in EFNet. What’s up?
Uh….you know? I never liked Dice-K’s style of not wanting to challenge the hitter a lot. If you’ve played an FPS (First Person Shooter) game, he’s like a guy who tries to dodge you a lot before shooting you, and if you wait until he slows down instead of “swinging and missing”, you realize he’s not so tough. It seems like MLB players have adjusted to that, and it’s clear it’s making him less and less effective has time goes on. I understand his fastball is not at Lester or Beckett’s level. That doesn’t mean you treat going to the K zone once in a while like a death wish like Dice-K does.
The WBC? I won’t dispute how he did in that. As far as “wearing out”, he’s not made of as much tough skin as we thought just cause he started his season early. Same for Pedroia. You run the same risk in MLB games, period.
I think Dice-K just needs more rest…
Acceptance with a clause
I don’t think that he handled the situation very well, he should not have gone publically about it with all that the Sox have done for him he owes them that. On the other hand, he brings up a pretty valid point. Alot of Japanese players who come over fail after a couple of years, and it could be due to the change in training regime. If you look at Ichiro, the Mariners have let him train however he wants.
I am not convinced that there is a difference between a Japanese arm and an American arm, however, there is definetly a difference in their arm mechanics. Most Japanese pitchers have similar throwing mechanics and that could be the reason behind their training working so well for them. I think the Sox should give his training method a shot. Let him do his marathon training and have the team doctors keep a close eye on him. If he seems to be losing arm strength discontinue the training.
I'd be willing to give this a shot as well.
Could increase the Japanese pull if we are more receptive to their training style as well.
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I agree with you about the “playing these things out in the media” thing. Both sides could have handled things better. Though a part of me wonders how accurately Daisuke’s being quoted, whether this is in context, etc. I think it’s important for Sox fans to not rush to judgment; Daisuke’s lack of English, and the fact that he was given such a large contract before most of us had ever seen him pitch, make him hard for many fans to relate to, but it doesn’t mean that he doesn’t have a side in all this.
As far as his future, I think he has really great stuff, and could be a great starter if he set hitters up and threw to contact more, rather than trying to paint corners and strike everyone out.
More casual than the average fan.
by baseball conspiracy theories on Jul 30, 2009 12:52 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t have any type of in-depth analysis like the posters ahead of me.
I just think Dice K needs to , get in shape, stop walking so many batters and chet ep.
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
+1
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jul 30, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't finish my first post cause I was in a hurry
But listen. I’m willing to go with what Dice-K thinks his right for him as far as training. Maybe that’s what he really needs. I don’t buy “oh he was in the WBC and played 3 more games than everyone, poor guy”, like I said.
Exactly.
He needs to learn to pitch effectively in the zone – when I looked at one of his games, it seemed like he was trying to be in the zone, but his stuff wasn’t missing bats.
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