Lugo: it hasn't worked out as a Sox (The Pro-Lugo Movement)
by Randy Booth on Jul 2, 2009 11:08 AM EDT
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As much crap we give Julio Lugo, I feel bad for the guy:
Now, even Lugo himself admits it hasn’t worked.
"No, it hasn’t," he said late yesterday afternoon, after his 11th-inning single drove in what would be the deciding run in the Sox’ 6-5 victory over the Baltimore Orioles at Camden Yards.
"I thought it would work, but that’s not where we are," he said, almost matter-of-factly. "But one thing I am not going to do is throw a log on the fire. It’s just the way it is right now and I have to deal with it."
A quick Lugo story: My brother (nhredsox) met Lugo during spring training and Lugo actually struck up a conversation with my brother because he was wearing a t-shirt that said "dad" on it. Lugo just wanted to talk about each other's kids. Lugo just came up behind him, slapped him on the back and started asking questions.
I don't care how he plays baseball, that's a nice guy right there.
And you can see it in Lugo on the field. Here is a truly talented athlete playing in a place he's always wanted to play, and he's struggling. Can anyone imagine how bad that must hurt for him? It's just not working out for him, but he's been working his hardest to make it happen.
I say we start a movement. Let's start the "Pro-Lugo" movement. Instead of booing this guy, let's cheer for him. Instead of sighing when he comes into the game, let's root for him to make a nice play or two. Let's give him some classic Red Sox love. What's the worst that could happen: He actually does well?
So I'll say it now: I'm done bashing Lugo. He bashes himself enough for not playing well. Let's turn it around and give this guy a leg to stand on -- the Royal Rooters.
What say you?
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good post
I agree. I feel bad for him. Sure, he is a pretty bad player. Sure, he makes a lot of money and does his job poorly. But he is known as a good guy in the clubhouse. It is sort of strange how fans root against their own players. I think this is because it feels good to have an easy scapegoat. But, don’t we want success from all of the Sox players?
by Buzzy on Jul 2, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Guy Does have talent
The Short Stop Mystery continues. Here is a guy that was / is a bonifide All-Star – comes here and is Pffffffffffffffff. Probably puts too much pressure on himself – which is just amplified by the fans.
The fans are the fans – they probably Boo him more because they know he is capable of more – I mean the guy killed everyone when he was with TB and on those teams it was harder to produce as he was the one guy you could pitch around.
Human Psyche is very strange indeed – I am convinced Ortiz’s deal was 100% mental and look how bad he did for 2 straight months.
There is something about Boston though and Probably NY as well. Look at Renteria – All Star year Before coming to Boston – Sucked Majory in Boston – Next year after leaving Boston – All Star again.
His “psyche” was way to fragile for Boston – but it is a Good example of how getting on a guy can affect anyone – I also think his (Renteria’s) name is on that list but that is another Story.
Simply put – guys like Dustin who have the right combination of an attitude of – “I don’t give a shit- I am going to Kill you every day” and talent are the guys that do the best in Boston.
by www.SoxTherapy.Net on Jul 2, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You did hear about Papi getting eye drops, right?
And how he started absolutely mashing immediately after?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 2, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A nice guy who was arrested for punching a woman and slamming her face into a car? I don’t care if his ex-wife did drop the charges, that is not a nice guy.
He could be batting .330 and playing error-free defense, I still wouldn’t want him on the team.
by jsee on Jul 2, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lugo sucks, nice story, nice hit for him yesterday, doesn’t change the fact he sucks. Get him out of here.
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jul 2, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who Do we Get For him?
Aside from- the Spousal Abuse – I subscribe to the Sam Kinison School on that one.
“I don’t support spousal abuse in anyway , but I understand where those feelings come from”
On a straight up trade you are not going to get value – I assume you are not talking about getting rid of him for another Shortstop – as you can not trade for what doesn’t exist – so aside from the potential problem brewing at 3rd base – what other position and who would you go after? Would you include other people? What do you want to get back.
by www.SoxTherapy.Net on Jul 2, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather just release him.
Sunk cost.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 2, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely right
Lugo = loser; always has
by ccthemovieman on Jul 3, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Any team that wants to win a World Series should never have this guy start; or even be on the roster. His momentum sucking will preclude any team that he is ever a part of from winning, especially winning in the playoffs. What I hate is that he never, ever is able to deliver a hit in extra innings to win a game for his team. His presence on the team alone, even when he does not play, will cause the team to lose. The man is simply a born loser; he never has and never will be part of any team that wins.
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Jul 4, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every time I think about changing my Lugo attitude, I remember the spousal abuse.
That’s all I can say, teally.
by USG on Jul 2, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But magentally, I totally agree.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 2, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's part of the team...
So I’m with you.
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Jul 2, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im with you Randy
The one thing that separates us from the Wanna-be MFY fans is that we support our players, ie Papi.
I have never booed this guy, sure I am disappointed with his play at times, but he is a Red Sox and that is enough for me to keep cheering for him. Lugo is trying his best and wants to win.
Its the same with some about Dice-K. Sure its a funny joke about his walks but he is our player so I support him and treat his play as if he was my kid and can do no wrong.
Lets go Lugo, rally it up!
by SoxAcumen on Jul 2, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree on Lugo + Dice K another Story
Dice K – is a disaster from a coach-ability standpoint. He is here on this 3rd year and he hasn’t adjusted or even try to adjust to the American Game.
He has the right attitude – Not Caring what people think – but when those people include his coaches it’s a problem.
by www.SoxTherapy.Net on Jul 2, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dice-K was 18-3 with a sub 3.00 ERA last year.
That’s pretty dominant considering he had at least two guys on every inning he pitched in. But he did all that pitching the way he wanted to pitch. Now everyone wants him to throw more strikes…and he heaves fastballs out there that grab too much of the plate, causing him to get knocked around. I say, let him pitch however the heck he wants…he knows what works for him better than anyone else.
Let him walk 1000 guys a year, if he doesn’t give up runs, it’s still solid pitching.
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Jul 2, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not dominant, lucky.
Both of you should read the FanPost I wrote a few weeks ago (http://www.overthemonster.com/2009/6/14/908983/is-dice-k-ok). I found that he has attempted to adjust to the American game, throwing more in the zone. The beginning of the post addresses last season.
But, tito, if you think him walking 1000 guys a year constitutes “solid pitching,” we may have some work to do with you.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 2, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just do not agree
1) he is our player, so you support him – that is just how i look at it.
2) Dice-K was 18-3, 2.90 era in 2008 and 15-12 4.90 era in 2007. What do you expect from a 3-5 pitcher in the AL East? Everyone cannot be Roy Haladay. Ask yourself what will Jon Lester’s 09 stats be like? How many games did he get the Red Sox a win or keep them in a position to win? Then look at Dice-K’s 2008, take the bias out that you do not like the way he pitches and look at how many times the Red Sox had a chance to win.
3) Dice-K has been injured all season, whatever the reason (yes buzzy i know the WBC). So to put this on him as not adjusting is a little unfair to Dice-K, Tek and the coaching staff.
4) Nobody has any idea what is actually going on with communication and philosophy within the team so using a trumped up idea that Dice-K ignores his coaches or Tek is again unfair.
This pseudo hatred for Dice-K has to stop…he will bring more to the Nation if we support him than if we get angry bc he is not Josh Beckett or Jon Lester.
Dice-K is a solid #3 and an excellent #4 for his price when healthy. Look around the league and see what other AL teams are sporting in the 3-5 spots.
by SoxAcumen on Jul 2, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I am saying
Is we are stuck with the Guy – He is Hurt because of his attitude. I am not saying don’t support him I am just not expecting him to change his approach. Great when it works – It isn’t working anymore.
Even last year with the Wins I think everyone was kidding themselves – in fact it was joked about big time on TV and in the Press – here is a guy who walks the world and escapes by the hair of his chin each time last year. I mean it was 100% a broken clock is right 2 times a day syndrome.
I guess my point is – we know the good he brings – however we also know the bad – and as he ages the bad will become more pronounced if he doesn’t change he ways. I agree that you don’t go out and get a guy and say to him " Hey we love you – now totally change" but likewise you don’t go out and get a guy and expect him to tell you -
I do it this way – every-time – never change – now where is my masseuse?
by www.SoxTherapy.Net on Jul 2, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stuck?
I would bet that there are 30 other teams who would love to be stuck with Dice-K. His attitude? I do not understand, the guy wants to win. He choose to play for his country in an event that most baseball crazy countries believe is extremely important. The US does not, fine, but in Japan its a pride thing and he would of lost face if he did not pitch for Japan.
Are you upset the Kobe Bryant played in the Olympics? or Yao Ming? Both Kobe’s and Yao’s season long injuries could be attributed to not enough rest in the off season? Or Carlos Boozer being out for the beginning of the season could be a direct link to the Olympics and the Jazz having a poor playoff seed and playing the Lakers too early. To Dice-K, and most of Japan, the WBC is the Olympics of baseball.
Its unfortunate that Dice-K has had problems from pitching in the WBC, but to say his attitude is bad bc of pitching in the WBC is unfair. I guess Youk and Pedroia have similar bad attitudes?
by SoxAcumen on Jul 3, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1) He do support them, but the team is more important.
2) I’m not sure what point you were trying to make. You should realize that 2008 was the product of a lot of luck. He was among the league leaders in WPA last year (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=3&season=2008&month=0), so you are right that he did give the Sox a shot to win a lot of games.
3) Does fatigue count as an injury now?
4) Agreed.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 2, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This "Luck"
is this something that only Dice-K has? =)
He won last year, kept his team in the game. I could care less if every pitch Dice-K threw the ball was hit right back at him 140 mphs and by accident went into his glove for an out. Who cares an out is an out, a win is win.
Yes, fatigue is considered an injury for a starting pitcher.
by SoxAcumen on Jul 3, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are lucky and unlucky pitchers every year. Just read this about Kevin Millwood’s season. He is basically the same pitcher that he was last year, but his ERA is almost 3 runs lower.
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Jul 4, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This.
It’s called luck for a reason.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 6, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree somewhat
I may get ridiculed because I’m the new kid here and haven’t read all the Lugo bashing but I think he’s a better hitter than Lowrie with whom I’ve never been too impressed especially batting from the left side, Lugo needs to play better defense however! I’d like to trade JD Drew if we could get a talented youngster…I don’t think he will ever reach his potential…I’m just not thrilled with having players who strike out so much…give me the contact hitters like Dustin..
DB
by db24 on Jul 2, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JD Drew
You Can’t Trade JD Drew even if you wanted to – salary etc. $14Million a year.
He is Solid – And is Clutch – His biggest issue is health – on a per games played basis he is on pace for a full season of 27 HR’s and Close to 100RBI’s.
Math on that is he has placed 68 games this year – Multiply his numbers by 2.66 (which would get you to 180- AKA full season)
Also I want to win now not later. I sure as hell would rather having hitting for me rather than against me .
by www.SoxTherapy.Net on Jul 2, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
162 games per year.
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Jul 2, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Bad
So I am a frigging Idiot – Sue me HA.
In that case – Multiple his numbers by 2.38 and lets see we get
24 HR’s and 80 RBI’s. Not quite the 14 Million Dollar Man but I will take him.
by www.SoxTherapy.Net on Jul 2, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also:
You probably should not prorate Drew to 162 games; he has never played more than 146 in his career. 140 games is more realistic.
But, we are about half-way and he is at 2.0 WAR. 4.0 WAR is about what he did last year, so we can very reasonably expect that, making him worth a little more than $14M per year on the FA market.
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Jul 3, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only question with Drew is durability
When he plays, he is very good. He has a career OPS of .893. Last year his OPS was .927. So far this year, has an OPS of .873. (He gets a pass for 2007 because he was dealing with a serious family issue). Drew is a very consistent, upper-echelon player.
Incidentally, Jason Bay, a player most Sox fan consider a must to re-sign for $15+ million, has a career OPS of .892. And Bay isn’t in Drew’s league defensively.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jul 2, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Durability is important though.
If a guy isn’t on the field, he is useless. Also, last year Drew was consistently average all season except for that absurd June. He had an OPS between .787 and .821 for each month except June (1.309 OPS). I think he’s a fine player, but the contract seemed unnecessarily large at the time and still seems that way.
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Jul 2, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
But Drew has played more games than Youk this year. Youk’s single-season high in games played is 147, which he did in 2006. I think Drew’s contract is on the high side, but it’s not an awful contract. Based on his career numbers, he is only slightly overpaid. Let’s see what Jason Bay gets.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jul 2, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is only slightly overpaid per season, but it is the length of the deal that bothers me. 5 years for a notoriously injury prone player. I just don’t think there was any other market for the guy and we were bidding against ourselves. But he is a very good player, and as long as he plays 140 games per year, the contract won’t really hurt us too much. Its not nearly as bad as the SS contracts that we throw around.
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Jul 2, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jul 2, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Youk has missed games because of being hit so much.
Not quite the same as Drew, who, at times, seems to get injured running out to his position.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 2, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Missed games are missed games
It doesn’t matter how a player gets injured.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jul 2, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but it's not like Youk's fragile.
He could solve his injury issues by backing off the plate a little, or pissing off the opposing pitchers a little less.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 2, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might be the only one
but I love JD Drew in our lineup, he fits perfectly with Youk, Pedroia, Papi, Lowell and Bay.
14 million is very tough to move.
by SoxAcumen on Jul 2, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are not the only one.
Nancy can stay in Right for the rest of his career as far as I’m concerned.
After his grand salami in the ‘07 ALCS…he earned his keep in my book. He might strike out looking a tad too much, but he’s a patient and dangerous lefty, who pitchers do not like facing in the least.
"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, Kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."
by tito (eight and oh) on Jul 2, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Add me to the list
Drew – Could be Top 5 LF in MLB.
by www.SoxTherapy.Net on Jul 2, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except he's a RF...
And his K% is usually a little above league average:
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 2, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lowrie has been a worse battter as a LHB than as a RHB (tOPS+ of 75 and 159, respectively)...
But remember, he had a broken right wrist last year, which would be the bottom hand as a LHB.
Lowrie’s career OPS+ is 81, just below Lugo’s career 88. Even without a healthy wrist for part of last year, Lowrie was at 90 while Lugo was at 78.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 2, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sox can handle Lowrie's bat
As long as he play a good SS, or can be a stopgap at 3rd or 2nd when need be, they downplay his hitting.
Let’s put it this way, if he start double plays against the Rays, on that thing they called a “surface” in the St. Pete warehouse, then he can hit around the Mendoza line.
by superferret on Jul 2, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are we downplaying his hitting?
He’s a pretty good batter for a SS – he’s not a burden.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 2, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
He had good minor league numbers. And last year he was an injured rookie. If healthy, his offense should improve in the pros.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jul 3, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lugo isn't a bad outfielder...
How Lugo is hitting, and especially in a clutch situations at this moment, (the ball hit yesterday against the O’s was a gimme, given the infield was in) I am pretty sure he can traded. Seattle needs an outfielder, and I think he would be a good fit there, perhaps in a three way trade. Sox eating half his contract, so another team is paying 4.5 million or so for two more years. That is how I see the Sox alleviate this conundrum.
What I have seen as Lugo as a SS, he isn’t a good leader, he should call off people or judge the situation better. He doesn’t turn double plays well. It isn’t his athletic skills, which can be pretty good, but his baseball smarts
Another team that may need him as utility player/outfielder, and he could hit flares all game is the Rockeis,
The biggest obstacle is his salary, and many teams in contention have cash crunches…
by superferret on Jul 2, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you convince some GM to take him, I don't care how he leaves.
As long as we don’t give up prospects to get rid of him. Also, Lugo’s played all of 60 innings in the OF in the majors.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 2, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think the Sox need to sweeten a deal..
The Mets need a SS or another bat to replace Reyes. Beltran is coming back, but they may need another outfielder to help Sheffield etc. However, what team is going to swallow 1 1/2 year contract @9 million a year?
However, they may be a team that would want Lugo’s bat, like the Reds, (they don’t have the money), even the Cubbies…..
by superferret on Jul 2, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lugo’s bat is basically replacement level (if not lower) as on OF’er. No team in their right mind would trade for him, pay him $9M per year and play him the OF. It would be absolutely disastrous. And who knows how he would adapt to playing the field? I see almost no chance that he will be traded unless we pay almost all of his contract.
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Jul 3, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Sox have to eat alot of Lugo's salary
for a trade to take place. The Sox would have to do what they did with Renteria. I believe the Sox paid half or more of Renteria’s salary while he was playing in Atlanta. I think a trade can happened, especially if Lugo has been hitting well right now. He may be an okay table setter (ie leadoff) hitter. He is not worth his $9 million salary, but he isn’t washed up either.
by superferret on Jul 3, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 2, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drew....
Does anyone have numbers on J.D. on the day (and couple of days after) he moves in the batting order?
I may be mistaken….It just seems to me that you can pencil in a couple of hits when he’s been pushed around the order?
by GJ on Jul 2, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Might be kinda difficult...
I know BBRef has splits for each spot in the lineup…
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 2, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I checked out the game logs.
There’s no pattern… Some players seem to need waking up, but no conclusion can be made from the stats.
by GJ on Jul 2, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is the Stupidest Thing I've Ever Heard
Lugo not only stinks at baseball, but he’s not a nice guy either. A nice guy would give back his 9 million per year. Or accept that he stinks and learn how to bunt. Or stop hitting foul balls that break guys’ umbrellas. Or not do this: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=1547624&type=news
Big Pupi
by Big Pupi on Jul 2, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was found not guilty and his wife later admitted to greatly exaggerating the story.
by Gnick on Jul 2, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, I need to start researching stuff.
Thank you for that Gnick.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 2, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First.. he can't be altruistic...
There is this thing called the players’ union, and fidgeting the contract is a huge verboten as part of the collective bargaining agreement. If he wants to donate all his money to charity, he can as long as he pays his agent and the pertinent taxes.
Lugo has actually been hitting pretty well, when he is playing, he has started some rallies… his OPS is better than Green’s OPS and a couple points lower than Pedroia and Ellsbury.can, his OBP isn’t bad or embarrassing, actually it is better than Els.
On the aspect of the bunt, Any Sox fan knows his bunt that started an eight inning rally against the Indians in Game 5 of the 2007 ALCS.
Lugo has failed in his role for the Sox. He was paid to be a versatile Shortstop and be a good table setter. He failed kind of bad in both roles. Right now, he has been hitting pretty well, he has some speed. He can be packaged as an outfielder, a position he played a bit with the Dodgers.
The problem is finding a good trade for the Sox. The Sox have a pretty good bench. Ignoring my bleeding eyes from Tuesday game against the Orioles, they have a pretty good bullpen. I would probably trade Lugo for 2 AA prospects or top AAA prospect. Second, most teams aren’t that in good shape to handle additional payroll without 1:1 parity in payroll reduction for payroll gain.
by superferret on Jul 2, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with alot...
Firstly, I think that a big chunk of what’s going on with Lugo is in his head. His self-effacing statements sound like Papi right before he sat a few out. Superferret, the earlier poster has made a case that his baseball smarts aren’t the greatest, I concur. Secondly, though, I am of the type of fan that believes that it is unacceptable to boo the men who wear the Red Sox uniform. That is what forums like this, and radio shows are for. Frustrated with Lugo’s play? Call in to ‘EEI and yell like a lunatic! Want to go to Fenway and boo somebody? Make sure they aren’t wearing a red ‘B’ on their hat, that’s just not helpful. Where I part ways with this article is that I feel this, and places like this, are the PERFECT place to tear the guy apart. I think the author should absolutely continuing to bash Lugo here, as long as the situation warrants. The off field stuff doesn’t interest me as a fan. I looked at the ‘Big Pupi’ posted link, and was struck with a thought: maybe Lugo needs to grow the funky facial hair again. Why not? Recent Red Sox history dictates that this might just give him an edge. Just a thought…
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