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5 Reasons Why Lars Anderson is Still a Top Prospect

4 months ago, before the 2009 season started, the position of top Red Sox prospect was reserved for Lars Anderson. Clay Buchholz graduated following his half-season in 2008, Michael Bowden was considered a mid-rotation starter, and Daniel Bard could not threaten the top spot as a bullpen arm. Lars Anderson sat undisputed at #1.

Today, it's not so clear that he is deserving of that distinction, as Lars has dropped to #2 in the SoxProspects.com rankings. To be fair to Lars, a big part of this drop is Casey Kelly's outstanding showing on the mound, but Anderson's offensive slump cannot simply be ignored. He dominated Portland in 133 at bats after his promotion from Lancaster last year, putting up a line of .317/.408/.513. But so far in 2009 he's batting a much less impressive .272/.366/.413. 

 

The reaction from scouts has not been positive, with some calling him alternatively "overrated" and "unathletic". And if their reaction has been somewhat overly quick, than the reaction of some fans has been downright alarmist, with every line of "0-4, K" damning him more in their minds as a non-prospect. While there is certainly some reason to worry, this seems like a dramatic overreaction from the baseball community at large. It seems like everyone is ignoring the actual scenario that's taking place and simply looking at Lars like he's David Ortiz dropping off the face of the earth for the first 2 months of the season. As much as it is legitimate to be concerned for Lars as you would any prospect having a down year, there are more reasons to write this season off.

 

Star-divide

 

1. Lars was just promoted.

Last year, Lars showed up to AA and dominated. It was a pleasant surprise that he seemed largely unaffected by the third hardest change in baseball level within the minor leagues, especially given that he was leaving one of the most hitter-friendly parks in the majors. Having been given an offseason to cool down off a great hot streak, it's not entirely surprising that Lars is now showing some signs of needing to adjust. It happens to almost all prospects. It looked like Lars might be immune last year, but the fact that he was not should not exactly hurt his stock.

 

 

2. Our expectations power-wise were too high.

I've seen a number of comments on how Lars has "only" 8 home runs so far this season, and how this is a reason to worry. But looking back at his past years, it's hard to figure out why people think he should have more.

 

2007: 11 home runs in 493 at bats

2008: 18 home runs in 439 at bats (playing in Lancaster)

2009: 8 home runs in 298 at bats

 

Certainly his ABs/HR has gone up by about 16%, but Lancaster has been known to wreck havoc on those numbers, so it's not all that hard to consider Lars just about on pace to match his typical home run numbers. If there's a problem, it's in a lack of doubles, which can be attributed to a variety of issues. For instance...

 


3. Anderson was injured.

Early in the year, Anderson suffered a back injury, which can certainly lead to a decline in power, and lead some scouts to call him "stiff and unathletic" if seen in short samples. But Lars is 21, and is not about to be felled by a relatively minor injury. Given time, the injury will almost certainly disappear completely and leave Lars as good as new.

 

 

4. He's 21

He's a high-school kid who never once struggled with the transition to professional baseball. Lars has put himself in such a position that he's able to have a slump in the minors—an experience some consider necessary to success in the majors—without putting him behind on typical development timetables. If he puts himself in a position to get to Pawtucket in the second half of 2010, then his ETA has likely only been pushed back about half a year. And Pawtucket in 2010 isn't exactly an unlikely scenarion, for the simple fact that...

 

 

5. He's getting better.

April: .293/.341/.453, 6 BB : 15 K

May: .194/.318/.376, 16 BB : 28 K

June: .298/.404/.405, 15 BB : 23 K

July: .348/.434/.435, 7 BB : 11 K

 

 

 

So don't go writing off Lars Anderson just yet. He was a 1st round sort of talent (God love signability issues) who has shown he has power with the potential for more, is considered to have excellent plate discipline, and is just an all-around great hitter. This season—particularly April and May—is a blip. They happen to everyone. The Lars that some scouts are bashing now hasn't changed from the one they praised in '06. Give him a year or two, and he'll be smacking balls off the Green Monster just like we always thought he would.


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Good post.

When a “named” expert (it was either Callis or Law) was asked about the “unnamed” scouts who called Lars “overrated,” Callis/Law said “I don’t think such a scout exists.” I posted this elsewhere yesterday, but will just cut and paste:

who are the following people:

a)age 21 AA: AB 465 HR 13 OBP 335 SLG .385 OPS .720
b)age 21 AA: AB 494 HR 16 OBP .356 SLG .474 OPS .830
c)age 21 AA: AB 294 HR 8 OBP .363 SLG .408 OPS .771

Player c) [Lars Anderson] despite the struggles, looks better than player (a) [Hanley Ramirez] and quite similar to player (b) [Justin Morneau]. Portland is also a pitcher’s league. It should also be noted that Lars’ BAPIP is the lowest it has ever been, suggesting that as the season progresses he could easily get those numbers to trend up.
By the end of the season, this line will likely look even closer to the Morneau line (his alleged comparable) which is a fine AA line for a 21 year old with no college experience.

by Buzzy on Jul 14, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Morneau, for the record, made it to the MLB at 23

And has had his homers steadily increase over time.

by USG on Jul 14, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd.

I agree completely.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 14, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's in the right place...

…for a 21 year old. Points 4+5 are the most telling. He’ll be fine, he’s young, and he’s gotten over it.

by MonsterShadow327 on Jul 14, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree completely.

On the signability issues front, the evolution of the draft seems to benefit teams like the Red Sox and Yankees. Deep pockets means that Theo doesn’t have the same payroll issues as say the Nationals or Marlins, who may be able to pay their first-round pick but not the rest. I think Boras and company have played a part in this, by pushing up minor league salaries and signing bonuses.

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by 0157H7 on Jul 14, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's better off in the long run if he slumps now

That way he has time to learn how to deal with it and figure out how he will bust out of slumps without the pressure of playing big-league ball.

by lone1c on Jul 14, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

True.

Good point.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 14, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lars is the third prospect in the system

Behind Reddick and Kelly.

"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 14, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not really sure

that it matters, but I think most scouts would still place Lars ahead of Reddick. Reddick is almost a year older and had some college experience. It seems like a small difference, but usually it is not. He still is a bit undiciplined, but has slugged really well this year. I think Lars has more upside because he is a better OBP guy with a higher power ceiling, even if Reddick is showing more power now. Who knows…

by Buzzy on Jul 14, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reddick is more athletic, has a better swing and is only 6 months older

And Reddick is a good fielding OF, who has a very strong arm. While Lars is a shitty fielding 1Bman.

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by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 14, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

7 months

but who is counting ;). That plus any college time usually matters. I don’t think he has a better swing, but I am not a scout. I think that Reddick will never stick in CF. As a corner OF I don’t see his defensive value as so great.

by Buzzy on Jul 14, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has good range for a CF, which means great range for a corner OF

And that arm. Defensively, they’re not even close.

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by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 15, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lars is an average fielding first baseman

And projects to eventually bring a lot more power to the plate in addition to his already advanced plate discipline.

by USG on Jul 14, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kelly is arguable, I don't think Reddick is.

Mostly for the reasons Buzzy threw out. He’s not got as high a ceiling. Even if he manages to stick at Center, he seems more of a Nate McLouth than a Josh Hamilton or Carlos Beltran, and he’s not going to be anything special defensively except at a corner outfield position.

Lars can still be a Morneau, Fielder, Teixeira type. He’s no Pujols, but he can be top-tier first base.

by USG on Jul 14, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those comparisons, for the record, are assuming they make it.

Should always keep that in mind for prospects. Big asterisks that nobody is certain. For all we know Strasburg is gonna fail miserably. Nothing guarantees MLB success but actual MLB success.

by USG on Jul 14, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed

although the fail rate for high level pitching prospects is even higher than for position players.

by Buzzy on Jul 14, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And MLB success doesn’t always guarantee MLB success. Mike Aviles’s falloff in one year comes to mind as well as a laundry list of others. The whole thing is a crapshoot.

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by BTLove on Jul 14, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's been injured, no?

Nothing guarantees anything, if you want to get philosophical about it.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 14, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, you’re right. He ended up needing Tommy John surgery. But you get the point.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 14, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Reddick keep getting his BB rate up, he'll be something else

He’s the only guy in the system that could slug 30 HRs in the majors. He has the power, and still has room to add more power.

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by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 14, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why

don’t you think Lars can slug 30 homers? Most scouts say that would not be a stretch at all. At 20 last year he hit 17 HRs in combined A-AA,has a fluid power stroke and is larger than Reddick.
These things take some growing, but OPS usually does not. It is more likely Lars becomes a power threat than Reddick finds plate discipline. That, surprisingly, is hard to do.

by Buzzy on Jul 14, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reddick has been taking lots of walks lately

And, look, I’m not down on Lars, I just think Reddick is a very underrated prospect. I think he’ll be better than Jennings, who BA has ranked in the top 20.

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by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 15, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reddick is the 3rd best prospect in one of the best systems in baseball. He’s not underated. Jennings has a higher ceiling than Reddick based on projectablity. Reddick may very well turn out to be a better ball player, but at this point in their careers you have to still have to look at ceilings. The scouts say Jennings has a higher one.

by MisterT on Jul 15, 2009 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reddick has good power now

But not a projectable frame. Lars has the frame that suggests he’ll bring more power the further along he gets.

by USG on Jul 14, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reddick is more athletic, but he doesn't make great use of that athleticism yet

While he won’t add much more in weight, he could add more power to his game.

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by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 15, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Athleticism does not always mean power, you know.

Lars has the higher power ceiling without much question at all.

by USG on Jul 15, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

that is why scoting says (of Reddick) “excellent present power” and (of Lars) “elite power ceiling.” Reddick is a averaged-framed 6-2, Lars is a large framed 6-4. While large guys usually take a bit more time to grow into their power, the extra torque provided via the arm span alone generates a lot more power. That is why Lars is compared to Morneau-another 6-4 guy, whose power numbers in the minors at the same age are nearly identical, and who did not reach his power potential till age 26.

Right now Reddick has more power, but most would say that Anderson has a significantly higher ceiling. I doubt Reddick will ever hit 30 HR in the majors. I would not be surprised if Lars does. Anyway, I have barely seen either play, and I would be very happy if both exceeded all expectations.

by Buzzy on Jul 15, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

John Manuel

said “massive raw power” in Sept.

by alskor on Jul 15, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 15, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who would have bet Pedroia could hit 20 HR?

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by SoxDevil on Jul 15, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When

did Pedroia ever hit 20?

by Buzzy on Jul 15, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

17, 20, small difference.

Also, I already made this joke when we were going over the predictions after last season – Pedroia would’ve bet so.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 15, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would agree

but its not like that’s a mark against Lars

by alskor on Jul 15, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Star Treatment

One thing that hasn’t been mentioned is the fact that Lars is getting the star treatment these days. Opposing teams know who his is and don’t want to get burned by him. They’re pitching around him. It’s taken him some time to adjust and his numbers are definitely trending upwards.

by MisterT on Jul 15, 2009 8:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"Trending upwards"

Yup. Here’s his OPS by month.

April – .795
May – .695
June – .809
July – .869
Overall – .779

So he’s had one atrocious month. It happens.

Here’s Reddick’s OPS in 34 games in Portland last year, when he was 21: .726. He has really come on this year, at .883.

I look forward to these guys. I hope they push each other for the next ten years.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jul 15, 2009 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't go wrong with either

It’s like arguing over which celebrity chick is hotter. Relatively speaking, their both hotter than anyone we will ever meet.

by MisterT on Jul 15, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lars is particularly hurt

By a 6-game period where he was playing hurt in May.

31 ABs during which he put up a line of .065/.147/.097

by USG on Jul 15, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's some bites of an interview done with Reddick 1 year ago that may interest you

About his plate discipline:

The Red Sox have been asking you to work on being more patient at the plate, but you seem to be having a hard time adjusting to this process. How are you feeling your way through this?
It is a very hard adjustment for me. I have never been the patient guy at the plate. I was always told if I see a pitch I can handle, then go after it and drive it. As for the Red Sox telling me to walk more, my average has dropped severely below where I would like it so it is very frustrating.

But he’s been working on that plate discipline as his BB/SO ratio is getting better and better.
About Lars:
Who’s the best player you’ve ever competed with or against, and why?

One of them has to be Lars Anderson. Lars has such potential as a big leaguer that it is ridiculous. His power to all fields is amazing and he has such a great swing fit for Fenway Park. Defensively he is a great first basemen and will put his body in front of the ball to make the play.

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by radiohix on Jul 15, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fucking Trade him for Halladay

Reminded of the scene from Slap-Shot – where the Goalie asks Paul Newman what do i say and Newman says- Tell them…………………
Trade me Right Fucking Now! – And then Hang up.

by www.SoxTherapy.Net on Jul 16, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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