GameThread: Rangers @ Red Sox - June 7
Texas Rangers at Boston Red Sox, Jun 7, 2009 1:35 PM EDT
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Thankfully, the Sox have a day off tomorrow
So, if Dice-K doesn’t have it, it’s an empty the bullpen day.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What’s the reason everyone here didn’t want Michael Young as our SS again? Was it the contract?
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 7, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Young can't play SS
He’s awful defensively.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his lifetime defensive numbers are not that bad?
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 7, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bad D? The Guy won the Gold Glove at Short last year
200 hits every year (except last year when he has 2 broken fingers) yeah he sucks!!!!!
Larry Parrish Was Da Man!
by TRFAN on Jun 8, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
the GG means so much because sports writers understand baseball…not. Young is a horrible SS, a career big minus in UZR/150. That is why he was moved to make room for someone who can actually field. And what do his 200 hit have to do with his fielding ability (or lack thereof)?
by Buzzy on Jun 8, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Other "Gold Glovers"
Derek Jeter, Bobby Abreu, Raul Mondesi, David Wright, and Edgar Renteria.
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 8, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bad defense.
Also, we’d have to trade for him. Young is not worth Buchholz, and I don’t think he’s even worth Bowden.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Jun 7, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Words cannot express
how irritated I am at Youk for getting caught like that.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Jun 7, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dice blows
he is going to get smacked around if he keeps tossing that flat 92 mph crap right down the middle of the plate, 5 Ks or not…
by Buzzy on Jun 7, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate watching him pitch
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I keep thinking that
he’s too good to keep pitching like this. That one day he’ll figure it out and start dominating MLB hitters. His stuff is really good, and I see no reason why he can’t be as good as Beckett or Lester.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Jun 7, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dice-K's stuff isn't that good
He is, at best, slightly above average.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF, Bay?
Late to the ball and a bad throw. A good LF nails Murphy at the plate.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Would be nice if we had outfielders who could hit the plate
like, ever.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Jun 7, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sox just giving this one away.
Dice-K isn’t pitching that badly.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Jun 7, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I've got an idea
How about I try to steal a bag after the batter nearly goes deep? How about I try to steal against the best defensive catcher in Texas? How about I risk making the final out of the inning?
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Jun 7, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dice-K blows
He is the worst starter on the team right now.
Ellsbury misplaying ball in CF doesn’t help either.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Scary but Dice K’s trade value is less than Penny’s at his point.
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 7, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reminder on Drew's shoulder
Boston may opt out of either of final 2 seasons if Drew:
spends 35 days on the disabled list in either 2009 or 2010 with injury related to pre-existing right shoulder condition, or
finishes 2009 or 2010 season on the disabled list and cannot play outfield the following season
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 7, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is that why he's out today?
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 7, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you, Ian Kinsler
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ellsbury showing some bad base running almost gets thrown out at 2nd.
by ruktuim on Jun 7, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, peeps.
How’s DiceK been, apart from the three scoring plays?
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He has lots of Ks
He’s run tons of deep counts (what’s new), and Texas has smoked some balls. Typical Dice-K—nothing special.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He just had a 1,2,3 forth, with an AMAZING catch by Ells
by ruktuim on Jun 7, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How close was it to the wall?
Gameday shows it almost on it.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mid-warning track
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a diving catch on the warning track, at the 410 mark dead center. He slide and ended up inches away from the wall.
by ruktuim on Jun 7, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ells!
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Papi... :(
And his homer last night wasn’t that great either.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was happy to see him homer last night. But I agree last nights HR was more luck than power.
by ruktuim on Jun 7, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
According to Hit Tracker, it’s only out at Fenway.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kotsay!!
4-3
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man, I was catching up on the other threads, and then I close a tab and this pops up in my face.
Use subject lines man – so we can minimize the pic.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, lol
“Use subject lines man – so we can minimize the pic” – Will Do
by ruktuim on Jun 7, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kotsay is great to have back
Prefer him in the lineup to Baldelli
by BigRedDog42 on Jun 7, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Against a LHP, I might prefer Baldelli.
Not quite sure – would have to check Kotsay’s splits.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kotsay, as much as I think he cost us the pennant last season starting, he’s a nice luxury to have as a bench guy.
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 7, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He didn't cost them the pennant
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are wrong, go look at the amount of runners he LOB. You are 110% wrong in that statement.
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 7, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Sox have gotten some breaks today
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gameday says the triple was hit to Kotsay...
yet it showed up on the map as right to Ells – WTF?
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kotsay picked the ball up after backing up Ells
Why aren’t you watching? The game is on TBS.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did not know this.
Thanks.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re welcome
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit, DiceK.
So close to a quick inning – SO close.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That wild pitch cost him. I think if Ells plays Cruz’s hit off the wall better, he only gets a double and not the triple, so the wild pitch only moves the player over to third.
by ruktuim on Jun 7, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dice-K with another WP
Right now, he’s the 6th best picther on the Sox (Masterson is better as a starter). If Smoltz and Buchholz can pitch well, Dice will be the 8th best picther on the team.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The investment becomes a curse.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dice-K
Even if Dice-K isn’t the starter we thought we were getting when we made the investment.
I think the Dice-K deal, really gave the Red Sox’s a major presence in Japan. Opening up a major market for us to go after future talent.
by ruktuim on Jun 7, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
But they’ll turn on us if he do anything disrespectful to their idol.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Red Soxs In Japan
Also, I think the Junichi Tazawa deal some what hurt our standings in Japan.
From my understanding it was an unwritten rule to target Japanese players before they are drafted to the NPB. I think our picking Tazawa up straight out of the industrial league upset a lot of teams.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/11/25/tazawa.plugh/
by ruktuim on Jun 7, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't been good to start the year.
But he is returning from injury and should be cut some slack. This is only his 6th game, and he was good the past two years. It’s too early to give up on him.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Jun 7, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's been decent in the past
His numbers last year were somewhat deceiving. He was very lucky, and he puts a lot of strain on the pen.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh. Get this guy out of my rotation.
Penny too. Smoltz and Bucko in.
by USG on Jun 7, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
But keep it secret from Japan, so that we don’t piss them off.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rays/Yankkes:
3-1 Rays up, in the bottom of the 6th
by ruktuim on Jun 7, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess if the Rays win we stay in 1st.
But they’re creeping awfully close. We’ve got 4 teams legitimately in the race.
by USG on Jun 7, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Released, cleared waivers, allowed to come back.
by USG on Jun 7, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, shouldn't we be shellacking him?
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately.
Of course, everyone wanted DiceK, and now he’s a borderline starter, it seems..
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone should have taken him.
He has really good stuff. I guess the salary was too high.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Jun 7, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all.
Padilla is somewhat like Dice-K; the raw materials are there, the results aren’t.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Jun 7, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ells out, looks like he got hurt on his amazing catch.
by ruktuim on Jun 7, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not gonna help with his fear of walls.
I wish we had Span. :(
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DiceK matches his season high for IP.
[head shake]
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And surpasses it.
Masterson in for long relief.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good to know our centerfielder right now is the loser of rocks, paper, scissors
Hopefully Ellsbury is alright before they decide the Yankees series with Ink a Dink
by BigRedDog42 on Jun 7, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ha.
It’d be nice if Ells could develop so that we wouldn’t need kid’s games to decide roster moves.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha.
It’d be nice if he had a homer streak.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just a laughable game.
How many baserunners are the Sox gonna piss away?
by USG on Jun 7, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really? WTF?
Is an intern calling the baserunning?
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they may be letting the Hawk do it.
“If it flies to left field, you run.”
by USG on Jun 7, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm proposing a new rule for the Sox
Any player whose baserunning error ends an inning pays a million dollar fine.
Any game with multiple such errors results in double fines.
by RSNexile on Jun 7, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sending ORTIZ?!!!
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU TITO? DO YOU WANT TO LOSE THE SERIES??!!!
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Jun 7, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This reminds me of the beginning of the season
When the Sox were charging into outs as if Dusty “No Clogging the Bases” Baker was managing the team.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Jun 7, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha.
Gotta hope Tito isn’t calling up Dusty for managing advice.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, we still haven't seen him make Lester throw 130 pitches, so...
by USG on Jun 7, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet, DiceK is limited.
When he’s said that he wants to pitch longer.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, wait, wait...
They’re playing Rocks Paper Scissors in the dugout. If, say, Youkilis wins, they stay, but if Pedroia wins, they have to go.
Papi and Green take over when those guys are out to bat.
by USG on Jun 7, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My god, these announcers suck.
Blah, blah, bla- AL QAEDA?!?! BLAHBLAH BLAH!!!!
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was a pretty home run.
Can we keep the ball in the park now, Okie?
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oki's been great this year
I’m not going to get on him for a solo shot.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know.
Just saying, let’s have that be the only homer he gives up this year.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feckin' Cruz
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kotsay!
MVP of the game for us, so far.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugh...
I hate all this stuff when it doesn’t go our way.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RamRam...
Is not amused with all this shirt talk.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF w/ this crew?
Now talking about legs.
Youk!!
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, just in foul territory.
And Youk K’s.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dusty!
That was a brilliant play to rob Vizquel of a hit.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nicky Green caught a ball while shifting mid pitch.
Time for some thrills in the bottom of the ninth.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bay on with a walk.
Anyone else still on?
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The MFY won
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not a good day for us.
And the freakin’ crew is talking about Wilson’s glove.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
15th DP for Lowell!
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That sucked
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 7, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The bad news is , we still need a hitter.
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 7, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Um no. Nick johnson is NOT what this team needs.
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 7, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
He’s as good a hitter as Dunn, cheaper, and gives us roster flexibility.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
False x 2-, he is not as good a hitter as Dunn and he will not be cheap whatsoever. He’s a rental. We need a solution long term, especially in the event Mr. Bay leaves.
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 7, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ahem:

And there are options this offseason that we can take advantage of.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s fine if we stand pat or pick up Johnson the off-season will be here sooner than later, and we can discuss those options about the first week of October.
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 7, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson will cost one of : Bard/Delcarmen/Ram-Ram/Bowden
Thanks, but no thanks.
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 7, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
I’d do the first two deals, but not not the last two.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
meh,O-Cab...really?
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 7, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We don't need him.
We can afford to wait for Jed.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 7, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 8, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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