GameThread: Red Sox @ Nationals - June 25
by Randy Booth on Jun 25, 2009 7:00 PM EDT
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Boston Red Sox at Washington Nationals, Jun 25, 2009 7:05 PM EDT
Sox go for the sweep tonight. I've been writing that a lot lately, but rarely has it happened. Let's hope the Sox can do it tonight.
Current Series
Red Sox lead the series 2-0
| Tue 06/23 | WP: Manny Delcarmen ( - ) LP: Julian Tavarez ( - ) |
11 - 3 win |
| Wed 06/24 | WP: Jon Lester ( - ) SV: Jonathan Papelbon LP: Craig Stammen ( - ) |
6 - 4 win |
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Boston Red Sox Thursday, Jun 25, 2009, 7:05 PM EDT John Smoltz vs Jordan Zimmermann Mostly clear. Game time temperature around 90. |
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This Zimmerman kid is supposed to be pretty good.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Jun 25, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugh.
HBP and double.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Jun 25, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hitting 92-93 on the gun.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Jun 25, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Walking Dunn
Not the worst thing in the world.
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Willingham's single, on the other hand ...
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1-0
and the inevitable slide begins…
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Jun 25, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i thought Dice-K wasn't starting 2nite
well, whatever, Smoltz can not do any worse than Dice-K. Here’s hoping JS gets out of trouble and becomes a “strong point” in the starting rotation
by pizdof on Jun 25, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and now for josh the cut me bard
maybe a bit of revenge
by pizdof on Jun 25, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MFY up 2-0
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hit hard ... but right at Drew
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's 42-years old, coming off major surgery
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I'm in no way saying I don't think he can pitch.
It’s just unfortunate it had to start like this.
by USG on Jun 25, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best to get the worst out of the way
He should get better. If not, there’s always Buchholz. But this is why I couldn’t understand why so many Sox fans were expecting Penny to get traded as soon as Smoltz was able to pitch.
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because we assumed the insurance policy was Buchholz.
We didn’t see Daisuke being awful.
And I disagree, I think it’s best to get the worst out of the way after you’ve re-established yourself.
by USG on Jun 25, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
deaths come in 3's
Farah, Michael Jackson and hopefully not the career of John Smoltz
by pizdof on Jun 25, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanx forgot 'bout him
John “you’re safe 4 now”
by pizdof on Jun 25, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Philly up 4-0
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Evening All
Go Sox!
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hello, MassGal
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They've made some ugly plays in this series
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ATL on the board
2-1 Yanks, ATL still batting
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What was "A-rod's historic homer"?
it just popped up on MLB.TV
by Brad West on Jun 25, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Popped up", get it?
But it was dead-center.
by USG on Jun 25, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First without PEDs
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
per MFY announcer
ties Reggie Jackson on some list—yawn….
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally forgot he was coming up on Reggie.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I see
A-Rod just passed the a-hole (Jackson).
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reggie = Mr. October
Winfield = Mr. May
ARod = Mr. Irrelevant—- he needs to take that title from the NFL draft
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Pettitte on the mound, the opposition is never out of the game
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aye...
Not a good day, it would seem.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not yet
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure would be nice for a Red Sox W.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Though even if we got it
I was really hoping for a quality start.
by USG on Jun 25, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point, I'll take a quality finish
by Brad West on Jun 25, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah.
We can still get a win even without a QS. Besides, which would you rather have: 6IP, 3 ER or 8IP, 4 ER?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First inning jitters?
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won't attempt to psycho-analyze the 42 year old 200 game winner.
by USG on Jun 25, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had to be amped up for his first start
It’s only natural.
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Striking out Pedroia is not a good sign...
It looks like it is going to a long night for the Sox.
Oh well, the Sox won the Series, next stop Atlanta.
by superferret on Jun 25, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Think good thoughts, ferret.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Besides, remember how everyone was saying the MFY not sweeping the Nats was a lost series?
Same applies for us.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its not over yet
& I never said that
& the Sox aren’t the Yanks
&…I guess that is all I have to say
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
& I never said you did (not literally everyone)
& Yes, but we’re better, so we should be held to the same standards
&… Okay.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Sox aren't the MFY,
We shouldn’t succumb to their fans’ psychosis.
We won the series on the road, and get ready for Atlanta which will a much tougher contest, where Nick Greene can’t hit 310 ft home runs for walk off wins..
I am more curious if Smoltz be a good starting pitcher or throw him in the pen, give him three starts, then make a decision..
by superferret on Jun 25, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
was going to type similar
am just saying “everyone” didn’t buy into the no sweep = failure mentality
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was more of a MFY-hater joke, but still, anyone above .600 really should be able to sweep a team lower than .400
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
But really, we should be able to sweep a team that’s got more losses than any other team has wins.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most Sox fans..
feel a 161-1 record is a failure. The goal is 95 wins for a division win or a wild card spot, it is an ultra marathon. Some teams like the Rockies are muy caliente, while others like the Phillies are unstoppable or just plain awful.
The team I kind of worried about isn’t the MFY, it is the Rays right now, then the MFY, then the Jays.
A .500 road trip is a raging success.
by superferret on Jun 25, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have unrealistic expectations...
But sweeping the Nationals shouldn’t be difficult.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not over yet
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice hustle by Drew
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
/sarcasm?
Gameday doesn’t say if it was a hard grounder.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think so
he legged out a hit
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thought Drugs was refering to the force out.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was hit hard
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes it was
my comment was to bstoomuchtotype
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just end it at bs.
Mucho easier, no?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TB up 5-4
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
6-4
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoltz for Pujols ?
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 25, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We'd be getting robbed then. :)
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Rasmus.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whats going on with ur sig young man?
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 25, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've been away too long.
The PB thing stuck around, so I decided to make it my sig. It’s kinda died since then.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought so
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 25, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Yanks can get Pujols for cash
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Selig would let them do that.
It’d still be a trade, but you think he’d stop a trade that is effectively buying a player.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how can he stop free will?
he didn’t protest when Yanks got cash for a player of equal talent — Jose Veras
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Commish has power to stop any deal, right?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know
I’d think labor lawyers & players unions would have a say
I’d think he could stop trades that seem suspect with no worries – like the proposed ARod to Sox deal – restructuring contracts & such
someone should research…
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quick Googling comes up with multiple results of stories in which a trade required commish approval...
Junior Griffey to Chicago is top result.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you see what I am saying
e in theory he could veto any trade but I would think he would need a legit reason— like the ARod to Sox deal— I’d think he cant just willy nilly ( sp) veto trades “just because”
I think some commish approval trades are cursory. I will prob look into it further , once I unravel the Cano mystery.
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha.
I think he’d do it just to preserve what little integrity the game has left. Most of the majors is in contention, and he’s always trying to push for parity. Allowing rich teams to buy players from other teams wouldn’t really help the cause.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I don’t think parity or equal value matters because its too hard to judge… if one team needs speed and the other team needs a slugger—how do you compare ? Unless its suspect stuff like contract restructuring I’d say – “eh” if the 2 teams agree—- it is prob OK
- where are OTMs labor law attys?
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tommy was on earlier...
I meant parity as in trying to keep as many teams in contention as possible.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
then do something about a salary cap
that luxury tax/ revenue sharing whatever its called really doesn’t do much it seems…
not sure but I’d think the union has more power than the commish in these areas…
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True.
And also true.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah if they give St. Louis the YES network...
and a player to named later.
by superferret on Jun 25, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frack.
WTF is up with all of these formers hurting us?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Large Father is not known for his glove
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't even realize that.
Again.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
always questioned
dumpping Bard! he looked better than Kottaras and he DH’d. I know he was way over his lifetime stats, but, he’s still better (this season) than Tek or George (I can catch knuckleballs) Kottaras
by pizdof on Jun 25, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't remember why he was cut.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he is not good.
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 25, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Money, age, Bard's so-so defense, etc.
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
amazing
1 pitcher, and we have to provide him with his own catching staff ???
by pizdof on Jun 25, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's been pretty F'n good this year, right?
Plus, how many games have we had an advantage in right after he pitches? Batters have to make a huge adjustment to try to hit him, and then they have to adjust back.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does everyone here still want Nick Johnson?
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 25, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
Papi resurgence = :)
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good, because that was a stupid idea.
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 25, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Update sig?
Not sure I ever really got your reasoning for it.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
It depends on what the Sox need and what is available. At the time it looked like the Sox may need a bat. Theo likes rentals because he doesn’t have to give up much for them. Johnson fit the bill. However, the Sox are also patient, and it looks like that patience will pay off.
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard Tek’s got a bum shoulder. Maybe we can get a catcher.
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 25, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not likely
Theo isn’t going to make a hig-cost trade.
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yad Molina
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 25, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which would be a high cost.
Cards are in their race.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It won’t happen, but he is fun to watch.
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 25, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not disagreeing.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched him the other night vs. Detroit and was pretty impressed.
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 25, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mauer
The Sox will probably go all out to sign Mauer, they have already sent feelers out they are willing to give him a Teixiera type contract, which is absurd for a catcher…
by superferret on Jun 25, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where did you hear that?
If true, that’s tampering.
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just the Gammons Cafardo rumor mill.
They are just drooling, they are not doing any tampering, (cough, JD Drew, cough)
by superferret on Jun 25, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's playing through it and it's just a sore muscle.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure...
Johnson for Smoltz seems like a good deal at this moment…
by superferret on Jun 25, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice play by Pedroia
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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Single digit chance to win...
Time to create a nice little hill on the FanGraphs chart.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hi all
still it feels good to see him pitch again
now we need some hope
GO SOX
by OilCanBoyd on Jun 25, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paging Buchholz, Clay Buchholz.
Will Clay Buchholz please report immediately to the Boston Red Sox. . . .
by lone1c on Jun 25, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Too soon
They’re going to give Smoltz more than one start to prove himself.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...
As many as he can get before the AS break? There’s gonna be a lot of roster moves then anyways.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is in detention
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 25, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They better
Heck we put up with Dice(y)-K for what seemed “forever”
by pizdof on Jun 25, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We get burned by being too patient with a few guys...
But look at Papi.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitchers are different
If the Sox had Dontrelle Willis, there would be suicides galore for keeping him in the rotation.
Papi’s problem could be cover as long as others like Bay and Youk were hitting well. Pitchers are pretty naked if they can hit the corners or they are throwing meatballs across the plate like Smoltz right now.
by superferret on Jun 25, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, who's committing suicide to keep Willis in the rotation?
And pitchers can be streakier than batters.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Red Sox fans...
Given the torture of watching him throw during his start..
by superferret on Jun 25, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, we're going to sacrifice ourselves...
To keep him IN?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel for Willis
Wang, not so much
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shocking news:
Griffin = Clippah
Dog. Man. Bite.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Smoltz up 3rd
79 pitches (a) man/men on PH (b) 2 out, let him hit and keep working ????
by pizdof on Jun 25, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe 79 is enough
Didn’t they say there were going to keep him around 80 or so?
by Brad West on Jun 25, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"The Smoltz Rules"
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't one of the arguments against Dunn that he never gets a lot of ribbies?
As stupid as the argument is to begin with, he has 50 RBIs this year.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The argument was that while OBP is terrific
productive outs are nice too. Ks kill.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Jun 25, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember seeing someone say that he never got enough RBIs.
It was some kinda proof that he didn’t produce.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of.
A D’backs fan said something about him being unproductive in Arizona, to which someone responded “40 hrs, .400 OBP”, to which someone else responded “ya but for a forty homer guy he doesn’t get enough RBIs” which led to a discussion about how perhaps maybe 180 Ks aren’t a good thing.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Jun 25, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You do that from memory or did you look it up on the archive?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Memory.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Jun 25, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I probably skipped a couple steps.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Jun 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, seems to mesh with what I was remembering.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoltz Ks the side
Aside from the first inning, he wasn’t that bad. There are quite a few encouraging signs.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
True.
The HBP was fluky, seemed to rattle him.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Jun 25, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the big warcry of "FUCK"
seemed to set him straight.
by Brad West on Jun 25, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was more like "FFFFUUUUUUUUUUCCCCKKK!!!!!"
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Jun 25, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha.
Not the most family friendly of pitchers.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better than Lackey
I swear the media zooms in on his face after EVERY batter.
by Brad West on Jun 25, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They love his multi-chins and the moles?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
The double to Willingham concerns me – would’ve been a homer in most parks (based off Gameday’s description). On a side note, WTF is a sharp flyball?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time for a rally!!!
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1B to 3B on a single for Drew.
He’s committed to the cause.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
let hope so
Sox haven’t been shut-out this season
by pizdof on Jun 25, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Problem solved.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
let me correct myself
ooooopppssss – we got KILLED back in April @ TB 13-to-ZIP
by pizdof on Jun 25, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you talking about?
That never happened.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do not recall.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't either
was a forgettable performance both both the sox and beckett
by pizdof on Jun 25, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We never played a game on April 30th.
[eye twitch]
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats intresting (we lost that series 3 games to 1)
then 20,341 fans need to get their money back. Garza pitched 6 innings on no-hit ball. Ellsbury beat out an infield hit. Beckett 4.2-10-7-7-3-8 (2-2)
by pizdof on Jun 25, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
NEVVVVVVVVERRRRR happened.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon Papi - #8 time.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or #31.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else think Bard might need to go back down to AAA?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
But who replaces him?
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Jun 25, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This.
Or maybe Jones?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buchholz.
Ease him in, let him get his confidence up against ML hitters.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Jun 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds about right.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In other words
does anyone else hate home cooking, apple pie, and Red Sox baseball?
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Jun 25, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmm... Taco Bell...
Wait, what?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bard = America
Demoting Bard to AAA = The Terrorists Win
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Jun 25, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My joke didn't work too well.
Taco Bell =\= {home cooking, apple pie}
BUT
Taco Bell = Red Sox baseball
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't disagree
perhaps moving Smoltz to the pen & calling up Buch wouldn’t be a bad idea. Just a thought though
by Brad West on Jun 25, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bard=Hansen?
DO NOT BRING JACK WILSON OR NICK JOHNSON TO BOSTON !!!
by matzushocka45 on Jun 25, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
[glass shatters]
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
our Bard - not the one we let go
took fielding lessons from Lugo
by pizdof on Jun 25, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm... Lugo at catcher. Sadly, I'd give him a shot at it in practice.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now there's an idea
he can become the knuckleballer’s personal player
by pizdof on Jun 25, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This sounds like an issue with Wake, not with Lugo.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok with that one, I'm going to sleep
It’s 3am here. Goodnight all
by Brad West on Jun 25, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Night
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Night.
Hope that party you missed wasn’t too good.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was fine up until a week ago
I expect they’ll just ride this out.
I don’t think they’ll bring up Bucholz for less than a start. And they’re not going to give up on Smoltz just because of the first inning.
by RickD on Jun 25, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
True.
But if we doesn’t pick it up, I think we’re going to rotate Bard, Smoltz, and Buch.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ells's now 6 SB behind Crawford.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Night All
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Night.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Down to 1% chance to win.
Epic comeback time.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i wonder
if that calculation takes into account just how bad the Nats bullpen is…
by RickD on Jun 25, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
Just historic odds.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
send those vibes to ATL
the Braves are making a game out of it…now I am really going.
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on Jun 25, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
8-6
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kottaras in
Francona is in “play the bench” mode.
by RickD on Jun 25, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kott not in, Youk got replaced immediately, Rocco still not in.
Lugo still on the team bench too.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's not varitek behind the plate
if I am to believe the DC announcers. And I don’t know why they would lie to me.
by RickD on Jun 25, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crap, meant Kotsay.
Mind is fried.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
too bad
Josh Bard couldn’t catch the knuckleball. He’s been hitting well.
by RickD on Jun 25, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Meh.
.310 wOBA, projects slightly worse for the RoS.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
too bad (also)
time for some “mop-up” pitching. Van Every’s on the DL. Bard down – Van Every up
by pizdof on Jun 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's on the DL, how would he pitch?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's what i meant by
“too bad (also)”
by pizdof on Jun 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lovely.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not a good night
when Willie Harris hits the upper deck.
I think i’ll watch the NBA draft of something else. Glad i decided against trying to go to this game, though I wish I’d gone to one of the other two. Guess I’ll have to try to catch the Sox in Balmer.
by RickD on Jun 25, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He went UPPER DECK?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's up for us?
We can pull this off – bat around with back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back solo homers.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get Lugo up in the BP
let him earn a few of those bux he’s gettin paid
by pizdof on Jun 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not like we should fear him getting injured.
Wouldn’t be much of a waste.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mr. Jamie!
Dammit, Papi, get with the program!
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tito, get off the GT and start managing.
With your OWN ideas.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good news - RamRam's back.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
[in best Chrstian Bale sarcastic rant voice]
Oh, good for him!
THAT'S the money you could be saving with Geico
by DJDP23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha.
Don’t think I’ve ever heard him do a sarcastic rant. Which movie?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
on the set of Terminator Salvation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrvMTv_r8sA
THAT'S the money you could be saving with Geico
by DJDP23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, the blow up?
I never listened to it.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lugo again performs in garbage time.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kott, usually we'd all be thrilled that you managed a 7 pitch AB.
And you almost homered too – great, but ya’know, you could learn from Channelopathy boy.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RamRam ain't a batter. Game.
On to Atlanta.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 25, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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