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GameThread: Braves @ Red Sox - June 20

Atlanta Braves at Boston Red Sox, Jun 20, 2009 7:10 PM EDT


Boston Red Sox's Josh Beckett delivers against the New York Yankees in the first inning of a baseball game Tuesday, May 5, 2009, at Yankee Stadium in New York. (AP Photo/Julie Jacobson)

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6 months ago: Boston Red Sox's Josh Beckett delivers against the New York Yankees in the first inning of a baseball game Tuesday, May 5, 2009, at Yankee Stadium in New York. (AP Photo/Julie Jacobson)

D-Lowe's back in town. This one should be interesting.


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Braves lead the series 1-0

Fri 06/19 WP: Kenshin Kawakami ( - )
LP: Daisuke Matsuzaka ( - )
2 - 8 loss
Sun 06/21 1:35 PM EDT

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Go Red Sox

Let’s show ’em a real pitcher for a change.

by USG on Jun 20, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Derek Lowe

Why can’t we get guys like that?

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

About Dice-K

I just want to mention something about Dice-K and the Japanese players in general: A lot of people here have mentioned that Matsuzaka will refuse to go to the DL or being relegated to the minors: That’s not true! I’ve been around a lot of Japanese people during my years in college and at work and I can tell you something: Tey’re very dedicated to the organization to which they belong and their personal interest come second to the well being of their organization. They are very respectful of their bosses and the prima donna, me-first attitude is very, very denigrated in their culture.
The Dice man mentioned last night that if he keeps pitching like this, he doesn’t deserve a spot in that rotation: That’s very humble from his part. A lot of other players will be def to the self critic and will tell you that they have a lil’ bump in the road, and they’ll come back stronger….Not Dice-K!
I for one am a 100% positive that if Farrel, Tito and Theo tell him that they need to put him on the DL or relegate him to the minors for a period of time to work on his issues: he’ll do it! ‘cause he’s been raised like that.
Oh and the Ichiro attitude is an aberration ;)

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 20, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is a good idea.

Although it’s still interesting to see how the traditional Japanese culture would dictate his moves.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTF?

That was literally right over the middle of the plate. How the heck was that called a ball?

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because the umpiring has been pretty subpar

Penny had quite a few strikes called balls during his last start.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think the NESN gun is accurate?

97 at the corners is nasty.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I forget.

93-94?

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depends

On how much he had to drink the night before. :)

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep – good times.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

87-88 this year

According to Fangraphs.

by USG on Jun 20, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The NESN gun always seems a bit fast to me.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh. Beckett is having NO luck right now.

Bad call from the ump, Kotsay can’t play the hop…

by USG on Jun 20, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The IF is a mess

A bad hop nearly took Dusty’s head off last night.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's so slow

Even tek can throw him out.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice reception for Lowe.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well deserved

Now, let’s beat him.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to see the standing O for Lowe.

I’m not sure why it was such a surprise after ’04.

by USG on Jun 20, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup

No standing O’s for MFY players.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but we see him so much more often

So one might suspect that we boo returning players.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He seems to be doing that a lot lately

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's always gone after stuff.

But that was just kneeling down and swinging on something just above the dirt. Ugly.

by USG on Jun 20, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's trying to pull everything

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

He hasn’t been right all season – .376 slugging is very un-Pedroia like.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not nearly as much loft under his hits.

Not as much fun wall-ball being played.

by USG on Jun 20, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The opposition is pitching him away

Dusty has no opposite field power.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True.

I can’t think of a HR that wasn’t to left.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice bang bang play.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What are the odds

We can get more than 2 runs tonight? Seriously where has the offense been?

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Balls

Thought that was in for sure.

by USG on Jun 20, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Me too

I think he trapped it.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Replay

Replay for hits like that?

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

It’ll slow the game down. Missed calls are part of the game.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They shouldn’t be though. Seriously if you were a Cards fan in the mid-80s you’d strongly disagree with that.

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was a Sox fan in the 90s

And I’m still mad about the phantom tag in the ‘99 ALCS. But I’m not a fan of replay.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It'll happen eventually.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Jun 20, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Jun 20, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit

Just when we get solid contact…

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That looked like a trap to me.

Check it for a grass stain.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It was completely a trap.

You can see on the replays that it bounced.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Jun 20, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Papi!

Sweet hit there.

by USG on Jun 20, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Woo hoo!

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get a dehumidifier?

Or better pitching?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Large Father clouts a double

Just missed one

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love me some opposite field hits!

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by radiohix on Jun 20, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ells?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's still up on Gameday, I mean.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And out.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, I thought you were posting that because the inning was over.

Which is why I asked what Ells did, because I thought Gameday was slow as hell.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bs.uf15bosox9bears23

You really should invest in mlb.tv, well worth the money.

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but you get to see positioning of players and don't have to settle for "flies out..." on a great catch.

And you don’t have to pay extra just to see little 5 second highlights.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta get a job first.

Which I’m seriously considering doing, for several reasons. On a related note, would getting an iPod Touch and selling my PSP be a good idea? Considering I don’t ever play any games on my PSP (all I have is The Show 07 and some WSOP game) and I REALLY want MLB At Bat app now that it has a live game stream, or two, every day.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MFY down 1-0

TB up 3-1

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Off topic

But I’m planning to go on a trip in late-July, the thing is, I don’t know where to go. Anyone have any ideas?

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What are your constraints?

Time, cost, traveling with, etc.?

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Traveling alone, anywhere within America, for about a week, no real cost issues.

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do you like?

Cities, mountains, rivers?

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only time I've been to Boston, I spent the entire day touring the historical landmarks and stuff.

Insane, for a history nerd like me.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't go wrong with the West Coast cities this time of year.

Portland, Seattle, San Francisco are all nice right about now. (Well, west San Francisco proves Mark Twain’s quip about the coldest winter he ever spent, but the Bay is nice.)

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Sox are in Oakland last week of July.

Hit the Bay area, stay in San Fran, catch a game, explore Napa, Big Sur and the Redwoods.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No they're not

No more West Coast trips for the year. Their last one was in mid-May.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought we were done with the West Coast for the year?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SF

Yeah thats definitely on the short list, been there a couple of times and loved it. I’ve never been to NY though, is worth the hype for a week long trip?

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I live in NY.

I love it, but for none of the “hype” related reasons.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've thought about living there after I graduate from college

But it seems way too expensive, my sister was going to rent a studio in Manhatten for $4,000 a month even though it didn’t even have a bedroom/bed.

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

[spit take]

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's highway robbery, even by Manhattan standards.

$2K/month should be the upper limit for a studio.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'd think it would cap there

But there is no shortage of 20-something women who will do anything to live in the perceived glamor of NY.

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is very expensive.

But $4000 is insane. We pay $2000 for a great two bedroom with a backyard in a nice neighborhood in Brooklyn. Still a shit-ton of money, but not $4000.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brooklyn

I think you’ve got the right idea with that part. Everything seems to pretty much double in price in Manhatten.

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if it's good for a week-long trip

I like day trips to NYC when I’m visiting my family in CT, but I don’t know if it’s the best place for that long.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I might agree.

A long weekend would be fun, but a week by yourself could get old.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doh.

kant read. Sox are home

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also off topic....

Is there anyway to send private messages via OTM?

by ruktuim on Jun 20, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope.

Stick to IM, text, or email.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh, Damn oh well

….What’s your email? :-P

by ruktuim on Jun 20, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Click my username to go to the profile page.

It’s on there.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or use Twitter's direct messages.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got it.

Might give it a try.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice catch by Ells

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, great catch.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Globe's Ben Collins is the best baseball blogger ever!!!

On Bay’s FO:

7:30 Jason Bay continues to swing the bat well, but was just robbed of a base hit by gold glove center fielder Nate McLouth, who heaved himself for a face-first catch. The catch was almost as criminally unfair as the last two major Pirates trades, which just so happened to have involved Jason Bay and Nate McLouth. Oh, baseball, you great game of coincidences (and small market pillaging)!

This+ Some hip hop references=Funny

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 20, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Beck has a cutter?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Naw, PFX read his pitch to McLouth as a cutter.

And the first one to Chippah.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's most likely a 2-seam fastball

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FanGraphs' PFX says he was both.

6.8% two seamer, 3.3% cutter this year.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

2-seam and 4-seam fastballs, a curve, and a change.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a 87 mph change has to be called Okie fasball :)

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by radiohix on Jun 20, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OkFB?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

and it’s 12 MPH faster than Wake’s best fastball.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of the most hilarious things I've ever seen

Was the PitchFX comparisons for hundreds of major league pitchers. Pretty much everybody was pretty similar in appearance, clustered in a lazy inverted U, with lots of different colors.

Then there’s Wakefield: a sea of green spread out all over the strike zone and beyond.

It was like Sesame Street: “One of these things is not like the others.”

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody not watching this game, you might want to check out CWS@CIN.

Throwback unis for the Civil Rights game.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Unless you abhor Harold Reynolds.

Apparently, teams use “cybermetrics” when they look at stats.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope to God I just heard him wrong when he said 3 times in one sentence.

Either that or he’s trying to remember what someone told him to say, and has no clue what he’s talking about.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Back-to-back Ks for Beckett

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love Eck:

“Amica loves low cheese.”

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I find him entertaining

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Not necessarily an astute analyst, but entertaining.

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's fun to listen to.

Doesn’t sound like nails scratching a chalkboard, and he has a unique idiom in describing baseball that is smooth and mild, yet refreshingly addictive.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't June supposed to be Nancy hot mounth?

14 millions fuck!

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by radiohix on Jun 20, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1.033 OPS for the month so far

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was last year.

But past performance does not determine future returns.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still performing great this month.

But yeah, I agree with that.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Be my eyes, please?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eck was making fun of some other guy on the NESN staff who wore a bright neon green hat during some sort of fun run/swim today.

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TC?

They were ragging on him for the run earlier.

by USG on Jun 20, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could have been.

Small screen, MLB.tv. But something in that part of the color spectrum.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

Yeah I see the snaking pattern through the middle.

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, now those I see.

But there’s no snake between them.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a snake, a line snaking between the two Xs.

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

There are no numbers

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

^missed my joke

Yes, I know joking about blindness is not PC, but I’ve got pretty bad vision myself.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

18 Innings, 4 hits: Pathetic
Let’s hit some balls gentelmen

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by radiohix on Jun 20, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jesus, is it really that bad?

I guess Bay and Youk’s homers took some of the sting off.

by USG on Jun 20, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's been bad luck and weather, too.

They’ve been hitting the ball well—-they’re just not getting good results.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beckett: 57 pitches through 5 innings

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Carcass!

Our second double of the game …

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nicky = 3

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone know where I can find team batting splits?

BBRef has batting splits, and team batting stats, but not combined. :(

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN - and use the filters

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They have BABIP by month?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope.

Damn, I wanted to see if we were having as bad of luck as I perceived.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CAPITAN

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In play! Run!

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Jun 20, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Play Green at SS tomorrow

And Lugo at 2B, it’s time for Dustin to get a day or two off to clear his mind from this slump.

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO!

As not spectacular as Lugo is at SS, he’s far, far, far worse at 2B.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm... when Lowrie comes back, does Nicky give DP some days off?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone have any idea why

Gameday has players listed as Pedroia, Ortiz, etc. Just last name. But they say Green, N? Why the N?

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Jun 20, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh.

I was thinking just on the Sox. As in, wait, we have another Green? Thanks.

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Jun 20, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also think there are two Ryan Brauns.

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Jun 20, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe another Green at SS.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

None on BBRef.

Other than Khalil Greene, Mr. Mullet.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Green != Greene

Although they’d both be caught by a /Green/ regexp.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good swing by Pedroia

But still comes up empty.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A lot of credit for those 2 hits has to go to Kotsay and Ells AB

8 pitchs a piece: I liiike (Borat style)

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by radiohix on Jun 20, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Savor your Borat references

Because in about two weeks they’re all going to turn into Bruno references.

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But there weren't any Borat lawsuits, IIRC.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also there was a Borat lawsuit

Those college kids from the trailer who promoted slavery sued the film company.

by Gnick on Jun 20, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The morons in the RV?

So, they’re mad that they said stuff on camera and it got published? If they signed media releases, they’re screwed.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beckett: 66 pitches through 6 innings

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dangerous number 66:6

Does Beckett sold his soul to the devil? Nah I bet you Lucifer is scared of Josh as any batter in the league!

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by radiohix on Jun 20, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Esp. if you're foolish enough to call time mid-windup.

Abreu.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love the leadoff double.

Especially with the middle of the lineup coming up.

by USG on Jun 20, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mr. June

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone want to feel better about our defense?

Check the boxscore of the Civil Rights game tomorrow morning.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I meant all the stuff about Bay, Lugo, Green, Lowell...

and DP+Ells, to an extent.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YOUKKKKKKKKKKK

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Que?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Odd face.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I -> J.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of the old languages was missing letters.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"JUNIOR!"

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Jun 20, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Movie reference?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

Starring Harrison Ford as Indy and Sean Connery as his dad.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Jun 20, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah.

Another series of movies I watched far too young.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got it.

Iust kidding arovnd.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is NESN.....

Advertising about how you can buy Yankee field grass?

by ruktuim on Jun 20, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was gonna say, isn't he still one?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was the plan.

But I heard he ended up smoking it.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Original.

Still funny though.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tried and true bro.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another weird observation

Anyone else laugh when they show the Dunkin Donuts charity seats….are horrible seats, last row, and none of the kids are ever watching the game.

by ruktuim on Jun 20, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always get worried when I see Papi get down on himself after good contact like that.

He’s gotta realize that, at least right now, we’re all pretty happy with what he’s doing. Can’t press.

by USG on Jun 20, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tito's already told him

Just keep doing what he’s doing; don’t worry about the batting average or the batting totals.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hes been throwing his bat up....

and punching it a lot lately.

But he has been really good recently, he has to stop beating himself up. It hurts more than it helps.

by ruktuim on Jun 20, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta keep that damn bat in line.

It’s wanting more of the money it makes, but he’s still the pimp here.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another 1-2-3 inning for Beckett

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tek

Is having a nice game tonight, 2nd double.

by ruktuim on Jun 20, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the Carcass saw NG's post

2 doubles

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Someone needs to hack his account and change the password.

Make it so that we can post stuff when we need the players to get mad.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 hits for Nicky

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another nice O for Lowe.

I love Fenway.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that was classy all the way around…I’m glad he tipped the hat

"Well let me just quote the late-great Colonel Sanders, who said...'I'm too drunk to taste this chicken.' "
-Ricky Bobby

by nepats108 on Jun 20, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Manny comes back to Fenway

Do you think he gets cheers to boos?

(Personally I think he gets a split of each.)

by ruktuim on Jun 20, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe neither?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love my days in Boston

Bostonian are the classiest people I’ve ever met!
You stay classy Boston.

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by radiohix on Jun 20, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great start through the first four innings.

Then it got a little rocky, but still, good start overall.

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Jun 20, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somewhere in the Sox dougout Lugo is beating himself up!

Good for him!

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by radiohix on Jun 20, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Divorce?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marlins up 2-0

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Huge DP

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good fielding by Beckett

Doesn’t rush it, goes to 2nd

by ruktuim on Jun 20, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet.

And Green’s sniper rifle of an arm certainly helped.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Green is really getting better.....

defensively since the beginning of the season.

by ruktuim on Jun 20, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a 2B by training

He’s getting more comfortable at SS, so his play should get better.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to hear

He has had some amazing plays over the last few games. He seems like he is settling in.

With him and Lowrie at SS we have a great duo.

by ruktuim on Jun 20, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

Got to hope Green keeps his batting up though.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Learning?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck!

I nearly forgot about the game spending the day thinking shit over. Frenchy sucks.

"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"

by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 20, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome aboard, MGBB

He really does suck.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should we question what you were thinking about?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing big

"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"

by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 20, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yet it took the whole day?

Alright, if you say so.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was a bit of a mess off the field.

Problems with EtOH, and I think he wanted to be a playa back then, too. He’s cleaned up his act a bit since then, though, much to his credit.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Personality issues: drinking, adultering

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Jun 20, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cheating on your wife, or helping other wives cheat?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And there'd be the issue.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Among other reasons.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, yes.

I was just saying, he should be gone anyways.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOTH

At the same time. Quite the thrill it must be. :)

I’m kidding here, but, seriously, cheating on the wife should not be a way to judge a sports pro of any kind. It just has shit to do with his performance, and anyone who expects a baseball player to be a role model is a dumbass. It’s just not what he’s paid to do. There are many moral issues that I too hate to see on players on my team, and love to mock when it’s on the other teams. But cheating on the wife? Really?

"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"

by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 20, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That came out a bit wrong

I just think that adultering isn’t that big of an issue on a baseball player. I mean, I couldn’t care less about who he’s nailing. If he starts reaching for the tits of a woman in the crowd, then it’s a problem.

"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"

by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 20, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moral character counts, too.

Teammates have to trust each other to do what’s best for the team. If you get caught in a situation that becomes bad press, it creates a media circus, which makes it harder for everybody to get their jobs done.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just concerned that he's cheating with other players' wives.

Then it’s a performance issue.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 21, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On Lowe's personal life

See here.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Jun 20, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

5.42 ERA, 1.615 WHIP

and a $44 million asking price.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jun 20, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

Had the Sox not been pounded in Game 3 of the ‘04 ALCS, Lowe doesn’t even get a chance to pitch. The Sox threw Wake, the Game 4 starter, out of the pen in Game 3.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 20, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game.

Beck = awesome

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Red Soxs Win!!!

Beckett pitches a shut out.

Good stuff.

by ruktuim on Jun 20, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

CG by the Captain of the Kick ass unit

Let’s go Marlins

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by radiohix on Jun 20, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Win full games, please.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beckett is a badass

When he’s on, he’s not just a great pitcher, he’s a tough motherfucker.

"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"

by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 20, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 20, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aside from his pitching

That double play he helped turn was impressive.

You see a lot of pitchers who can pitch, but suck at fielding their position.

by ruktuim on Jun 20, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who didn't?

"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"

by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 20, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I'm wrong, but Abreu?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate Abreu nearly as much as he hates walls

"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"

by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 20, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But that's a fear...

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BUT I FEAR NO ONE

"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"

by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 20, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great game!!

Night Everyone :-)

by ruktuim on Jun 20, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Waw Robinson Cano really stinks

This is the 2nd game in a weak that he kills a rally with GIDP to finish the game!!!!!

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by radiohix on Jun 20, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll say it for MassGal.

He gets the final out in MFY games more than anyone else, it seems.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 20, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Classy

Not everyone would tip their cap when they walked off the diamond on the hook for a loss. Nice, Derek

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