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So, I have a confession to make. I'm getting a little sick of Jonathan Papelbon. Yes, our beloved fireball closer. There. I've said it. I've said it, and I feel better for having said it.

You see...they guy just won't stop talking. And when he talks...all he can talk about is how much money he wants. And how much money he's worth. And so he's on a SIRIUS XM Radio baseball show yesterday, and he starts talking about how if the Red Sox don't pony up with the money he wants, he'll go elsewhere...including to the Yankees. Oh, he also said how he'd like to stay with the Red Sox for the rest of his career blah, blah blah. But, yes. If the Yankees drop the cash in his lap, he'd sign with the Yankees in a heartbeat.

Now, there are many who would say that baseball is a business. And those same people would likely say that ballplayers have a small window to make the money they can. And that the teams trade players like cattle, so the whole "loyalty" thing is naive.

But, the thing is that the guy doesn't even hit free agency until 2011. That's two-and-a-half-years. He's talking about signing with his team's arch-nemesis, and he can't do squat for two-and-a-half years.

Perhaps someone should pull young Master Papelbon aside and explain to him that over those two-point-five years that his salary will be funded by the die-hard Boston Red Sox fans that have sold out Fenway Park for the past 500 games straight, and that as such perhaps he should show a little goddamn respect.

Now, don't get me wrong. I was as big a fan of Paps as anybody. I mean, how could I not hold a great deal of affection for this guy?

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But this bullshit gets tiresome. This isn't the first time this season that Jonny's been quoted running his mouth about how much money he's worth. When the Mets were in town, Paps started spouting off about how closers are under-appreciated and how they don't (he doesn't) get paid accordingly and how teams will spend all this money on getting starting pitching, but boo-hoo the poor closers...and then that night blew a save after his starting pitcher pitched an absolute gem. And I will admit to you that that I smirked on the inside a bit.

I smirked because it really was a karmic moment. You were running your mouth about how great you are, and the forces of the universe put you in your place accordingly. Now those that know me know that I don't actually believe that the universe conspires against individuals thusly, but I do believe that as we wander through life we come across these crow-eating moments...and that they are learning experiences. They are meant to open your eyes and help you gain perspective. I had hoped it had helped Papelbon gain some perspective. Clearly, it had not.

The problem is that Jonathan Papelbon has never met a microphone he didn't like. He can't help it. He loves hearing himself speak. And while early on it was fun because he's a funny guy, now it is not. Because his cockiness has evolved into egomania. It's quite hypocritical, really, when you think back to him calling Manny a "clubhouse cancer" and then immediately following that up with whining about how he's not getting enough money, he's under-appreciated, and he'll play for the division rivals. At least Manny did his best to avoid the press.

There is a phrase for that that we use here in Nova Scotia. It's called "getting too big for your britches". And Jonathan Papelbon is getting too big for his britches. His successes and the adoration of the Fenway faithful has gone to his head and he just lacks the maturity to balance his confidence. It reminds me a bit of Cape Breton fiddling sensation Ashley MacIsaac, who in the 90s managed to take the Canadian music scene by storm and bring fiddle music to the mainstream. Next thing you know, he's saying how much he loves peeing on his 16 year old boyfriend in our national magazine. Ashley was last seen auctioning his career on eBay. I'm not kidding.

Anywho. Paps? We want to love you. But you're trying our patience. Where's that step-dancing goofball we fell in love with, huh?

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I don't quite get player value

I closer is going to get between 50 and 70 innings a year right? Sometimes more, sometimes less but usually around that. A starting pitcher is going to pitch between 150 and 220+ innings a year (at least they used to). Just by virtue of workload alone a closer shouldn’t be worth the same as a starter, they pitch about 1/3 of the innings. If the best starting pitcher makes about $19 mil (Santana), the best reliever shouldn’t make more than $7mil (Rivera makes $15 mil this year). Why doesn’t the best set up man get paid that much if the only difference is which inning he pitches? I hate it when players over value themselves, they don’t really get that we can put any one of three other people out there in his place for way less for the same result and he should be lucky to have the sort of security he has.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Jun 19, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Because there is a smaller group of players that can handle the pressure of the 9th.

It’s not like there’s no difference to them, or the values WOULD be exactly the same and there’d be no such thing as closers. After that, it’s basic supply and demand.

But what we’re seeing now, as Bloggy suggested, is nothing at all new. This is the exact attitude that has made Papelbon disliked elsewhere and beloved here. He’s freespeaking, arrogant, and kind of an ass. And we loved this about him as much as we now dislike it about him. Let’s not be hypocritical here. The guy has ALWAYS made it known he was going where the money is, and we’ve been more-or-less willing to ignore that until now, when his FA years draw ever closer. If he goes elsewhere because of money, then we just have to accept it and send him off with memories of his river dance and his broom-guitaring with the Dropkick Murphys.

Unless he goes to the Yankees, in which case **** ‘im. That’s just how it works around here, and he knows it.

by Ben Buchanan on Jun 19, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Y’know, personally? You want to talk about contract stuff in the off season when they’re negotiating your contract? Fine? You want to test the free agent waters when it’s time? Definitely your right. In the meantime, though? Be a team player.

by Bloggy on Jun 19, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

True that closers are generally overvalued, but they do work almost entirely high-leverage innings. This means that the innings they pitch are more valuable than the fifth inning of a 8-0 blowout that a starter pitches. The best closer should never make as much as the best starters, and the market has proven this, but there will always be a few relief pitchers in the league that make $10mil per year from a team that can afford them.

Also, I think a good bullpen, and a good closer, become even more valuable during the postseason. When teams will only pitch their best pitchers and every play is magnified, the closer making $15 mil who can pitch 2 innings confidently to finish the game might earn his money solely during the postseason. The biggest difference between the 2003 and 2004 Sox was the bullpen. Anyone think that Grady would have kept Pedro in that game if he had the 2004 bullpen to work with? Those guys make their money right then and there.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jun 20, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Grady's Game 7 management remains to this day a mystery

Particularly since he showed no hesitation in yanking Wakefield out of the two ALCS starts that he won earlier in the series, and the bullpen was ready to go.

by lone1c on Jun 20, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could his theme then become

Shipping out of Boston.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Jun 19, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

As am I.

I think most of us are starting to see that he’s really not that great, performance or personality wise. I’d still be pissed if the MFY fans screamed at his wife again though.

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by bdalebs on Jun 20, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, this Ashley fiddler person is a guy?

WTF is up with Nova Scotia?

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by bdalebs on Jun 20, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Ha ha ha ha....

Yup. I can be used for guys, too, albeit rarely. I bet Ash from Army of Darkness is short for Ashley. :P

by Bloggy on Jun 21, 2009 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Never seen that movie.

Only other male Ashley I can think of is a wide receiver in the NFL, but even then I think it’s spelled differently.

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by bdalebs on Jun 21, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

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