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GameThread: Marlins @ Red Sox - June 16

Miami Marlins at Boston Red Sox, Jun 16, 2009 7:10 PM EDT


This should be an interesting series. Hanley Ramirez is back in Boston.

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Hello evreybody! and go SOX!

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 16, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tunisia

small country in North Africa

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 16, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Native my freind

Meaning that RSN is expanding more than ever :)

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 16, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I spent 3 years in Boston

I was doin’ my MBA in BC

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 16, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, seriously, where's my ride?

That’s what I like to call XFD-fense

1-0 Sox

by Ben Buchanan on Jun 16, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even if he doesn't we all know that he'll come up of his slump big!

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 16, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

he just needs to go with pitches more and shoot stuff the other way

by revived0103 on Jun 16, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

This season he has shown

A remarkable ability to be, as someone put it, “Crazy Knuckleballing Man of Mystery” and get out of jams.

by lone1c on Jun 16, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha.

I’m winning my bet with NG too. :)

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ells, let's take back the SB lead from Crawford.

/one of very few times I’ll advocate SB attempts

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Yay!

10 more to tie, IIRC.

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

good call

i actually wouldnt mind if he tried to steal every time he got on first

by revived0103 on Jun 16, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh.

This is another one of those stat things – you’d have to steal at a clip of like 75% for it to be worth it, run production-wise.

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice D by FLA

1-0, good guys

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 16, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Uggla can't play in AL East parks.

Which means the MFY are drooling over his power. :)

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Evening All!

Go Sox!

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Happy Bloomsday, MassGal

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 16, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

had to look that up

seems kinda neat

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 16, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

survey says

That’s the #1 answer.

I might chronicle one of my ordinary days & see how it goes.

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The bars are probably better in Dublin than where you are

:-)

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 16, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

They love Manny in Dublin

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 16, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manny is loved everywhere

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

I’ll always love that goofey bastard!

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 16, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure Ramirez-Uggla

is the worst defensive middle-infield in the majors. And one of the best offensive ones.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Jun 16, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

So does Lugo.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Jun 16, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

back in the day...

Hobson & Knoblauch too

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

From what I understand of Xenobiology

the Xenomorph is immune to the acidity of its own blood. The blood would burn through the pit, on the other hand.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Jun 16, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Argh.

Forgot how fast the Marlins are – this could be a long day for Kott.

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone can steal on the combination of Wake and Kottaras. Kottaras can’t throw.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 16, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Inge.

It was f’n Inge. I had to look through Game Logs on BBRef to find it. Isn’t Inge supposed to be some freak athlete? Good catcher, good 3B, supposed 100 mph fastball, etc.?

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

And how much the Marlins' broadcast team rambles.

At least they’re praising Wake right now, talking about his charitable work.

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate when the Soxs play Florida teams.

I’m forced to watch the games on the Florida station.

I agree about them rambling, these guys are killing me.

by ruktuim on Jun 16, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where ya at?

I think you just said so recently.

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yessir.

I’ll leave the specifics to my icon.

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very cool

My girlfriend grew up in the Tampa area, and her family is all still over there.

So we make the driver on I4 over to around your area all the time. lol

by ruktuim on Jun 16, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oddly...

I try to plan our visits around the days the Red Soxs are going to be at Tropicana.

by ruktuim on Jun 16, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

After I posted,

I thought it may have been possible he went for 2nd to try and pull the throw off home, to try and allow the run to score before getting tagged out.

(Bay being amazing, I’m going to go with this)

by ruktuim on Jun 16, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marlins doing an email Q+A thing, latest question was about why MFY and Sox don't ever where NOB for jerseys.

Besides the fact that we do wear them on the road, it took the announcer a while to get around to “They’re good fans here and they know the players.” Funniest part is the guy who wrote in was talking about how it infuriated his wife – dude, explain it to your wife yourself, and be thankful she has any sort of interest in sports.

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

in my book, Evreything Bay does is cool

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 16, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Stiking out with RISP, GIDP, playing bad defense...

The guy is Cool, ice cold actually!

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 16, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marlins' broadcast trivia question:

HOF players, spent entire career with Sox.
WHATEVER YOU DO, DON’T LOOK AT THE RETIRED NUMBERS FOR HELP.

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Ortiz HR!

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Jun 16, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Papi!!!

Crushed it!

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 16, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

My boy is back

this one is dedicated to all the haters!

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 16, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

This one is for you Gerry Callahan

You worthless fuck

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 16, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

a Boston Herald "journalist"

The guy kept callin’ my boy names and how the sox NEED do DFA him! I can’t calm down when my boy (a RS national treasure) is mocked!

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 16, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

enough with the curtain calls

I get supporting him but this is what he is supposed to do

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 16, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

but im on gameday

i wanna know if there was one. im assuming there was

by revived0103 on Jun 16, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

nick green

is a big leaguer for good now

by revived0103 on Jun 16, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Sure.

Not like Lugo made a great push to keep himself around – oh, wait, contract. There goes our assumptions.

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

kottaras

is hitting .308 in june. him and papi are our hottest hitters

by revived0103 on Jun 16, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

yet your reply to the comment made me laugh

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Noes...

I wasn’t trying to be funny… :(

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

the funniest things are often unintentional

(see ARod)

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ortiz!!

He is hot tonight, two RBI ABs in one inning?

by ruktuim on Jun 16, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

3 RBI

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 16, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya 3 RBI

Wasn’t he up to bat twice that inning?

HR = 1 RBI

Knocked in two the 2nd time.

(I meant RBIs at both is attempts that inning)

by ruktuim on Jun 16, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's back with the vengence!

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 16, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

what is Eck talking about?

No dvr on TV in the computer room so I can’t rewind…did he say trading Beckett was a possible scenario?

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

He was talking about the 6-man rotation the Sox are likely to go to next week

I think he was talking about a trade off of rest v. keeping pitchers sharp.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 16, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I heard the word ‘trade’, he must have said “trade off”

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

True.

I think it’s a temporary move until they evaluate Smoltz and Dice-K.

Also, this might mean more work for Kottaras? (An extra off day for Tek, perhaps?)

by lone1c on Jun 16, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nats up 3-2 over Yanks

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice

How did that happen?

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 16, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kottaras is sneaky.

Pushes the ball fair, and THEN tags out Gload. (Since he’s such a mild-mannered Canadian, he can get away with it.)

by lone1c on Jun 16, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder if that was intentional

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

It had to be.

There was WAY too long a gap between the bounce and the push.

by lone1c on Jun 16, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

H Ramirez should play CF

The guy is a butcher in the infield!

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 16, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

not crazy about his baserunning

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

He has the speed to make the transtion to CF

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 16, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

2009

Ramirez:: 5 E’s

Lugo: 5 E’s

The difference…..58 GP vs 26….good old Lugo

by ruktuim on Jun 16, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

6 E's for Ramirez now.

And, as we know, Lugo aims for quality and quantity.

by lone1c on Jun 16, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another difference

Lugo – 1 WS ring
Hanley – nothing

Using the Derek Jeter is a winner argument (he has 4 rings), Lugo is the much better player because he is a winner and Hanley isn’t. :)

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 16, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has anyone else who gets fangraph updates VIA Twitter directed to their cell phone

Been getting the updates today? Cause mine hasn’t.

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Jun 16, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Twitter's full of good people.

Basically, they had to do an update today that was scheduled for last night. They wanted to keep Twitter up during Iran’s daytime so that Iranians had an uncensored medium to express their views.

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uncensored?

That’s funny, I thought Twitter arbitrarily limited messages to 140 characters. If that’s not oppression, I don’t know what is.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Jun 16, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this pace

Wake will be the new “last pitcher to win 300 wins” :)

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 16, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

* "last pitcher to win 300 games"

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 16, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Wakefield's still pitching at 50

Then that’s definitely a possibility.

by lone1c on Jun 16, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

FSMarlins

Has to be one of the most annoying broadcasts I’ve ever seen.

I’d say they have spent 80% of the game reading emails, 10% interviewing fans, and 5% talking about non-sense 5% focusing on the game.

by ruktuim on Jun 16, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

The 80% thing is b/c it's Tuesday.

They do this every week. The Rays spend the remaining 20% the same way.

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh got ya

I never really watch the Marlins or the Rays, unless they are playing the Red Soxs.

That explains it tho, I couldn’t see them doing this every night.

by ruktuim on Jun 16, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just filled out All-star game ballot....

As a joke, I put in Lugo as a write-in.

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Jun 16, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

What position did you put him at?

SS? You just took away a vote from Jed – good job.

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

They subtract votes?

by lone1c on Jun 16, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only one vote per position.

So if you put Lugo as the SS, then Jed can’t get a vote from that ballot, even if you checked his name.

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Papi works a walk.

Last month he’d have gotten rung up on a K.

by lone1c on Jun 16, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Reply fail?

Also, it’s supposed to be a 25 ballot limit per email address – can’t be cheating when something as important as an ASG start is on the line. /sarcasm

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

4-3 now

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 16, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

4-3 bad guys

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK what am I thinking about right now?

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually pizza

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh.

Surprising, I’m not thinking about food right now – breaking the rules of being a teen.

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our bullpen is so unfair.

Why look, we’re up by multiple runs! But now you’ve kicked our starter out of the game, and have a chance to come back against:
- All Star Closer (Paps)
- All Star Closer (Saito)
- All Star Setup man (Oki)
- Future All Star Setup man (RamRam)
- Future NL Closer (MDC)
- Kid who throws 100mph (Bard)
- Former starter who’s now a longman (Masterson)

We’ve got elite relievers pitching garbage innings.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Jun 16, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I say bring Lowpez back

to put some fairness in this thing!

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 16, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 2009 version, yes.

The 2008 version was actually very good. But he’d still be the weak link in that bullpen.

by lone1c on Jun 16, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

LOL

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Jun 16, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy cow, that 1-1 pitch to Bay broke like crazy.

Looked like it was gonna go off camera, totally reversed right before it crossed through the zone.

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Hanley got fooled by Bard.

15 MPH difference on the change = Hanley staring at the ball in front of him as he finished his back-swing.

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep.

Blowouts of mid-level teams don’t really inspire happy dances.

by bdalebs on Jun 16, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Game

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 16, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Good Night All!

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 16, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

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