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Boston Red Sox at Philadelphia Phillies, Jun 14, 2009 1:35 PM EDT


Boston Red Sox's Josh Beckett delivers against the New York Yankees in the first inning of a baseball game Tuesday, May 5, 2009, at Yankee Stadium in New York. (AP Photo/Julie Jacobson)

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Sweep time!

Current Series

Red Sox lead the series 2-0

Fri 06/12 WP: Takashi Saito ( - )
SV: Daniel Bard
LP: Kyle Kendrick ( - )
5 - 2 win
Sat 06/13 WP: Hideki Okajima ( - )
LP: Antonio Bastardo ( - )
11 - 6 win

Boston Red Sox
@ Philadelphia Phillies

Sunday, Jun 14, 2009, 1:35 PM EDT
Citizens Bank Park

Josh Beckett vs J.A. Happ

Partly cloudy. Game time temperature around 80.

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Nick Green + Julio Lugo up the middle.

Becks had better strike some guys out, all I’m sayin’.

by USG on Jun 14, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Any particular reason why DP's out?

Tek has the day-after-night issue, I know that.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just giving him a day off

Tito thought Pedey looked a little tired, so giving him a rest the day before a day off seemed like a good idea.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

But players need off-days from time to time. It’s a long season.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True.

Too bad Bay and Youk don’t get more time off.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was safe even with a good throw.

They’d have to apply the tag PERFECTLY.

by USG on Jun 14, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In other words, Ellsbury has been replaced by a pod person.

Bunting his way on base, drawing walks, hitting homers. Clearly this is not the same Jacoby Ellsbury we had last year. Not that I’m complaining.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has played well

Since they moved him out of the lead-off spot.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what scares me

Because now I want him back leading off.

by USG on Jun 14, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 on for Mikey

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dammit

Nothin’

by USG on Jun 14, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Crap

No runs, even though they had a runer on third with 1 out.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The good news is

They’re making good contact.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really

Strike out, bunt single, walk, and two short fly outs.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I had a dime for every time I saw this team go down in flames offensively after someone said that...

I would have…well, I could buy a nice lunch somewhere probably, I guess.

And usually it was me saying it, so…

Y’know what? Forget the whole thing.

by USG on Jun 14, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MFY up, 1-0

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Beck's not an athlete?

Or did he make a decent play on that ball?

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good.

I hated when he used that excuse for being a horrible defender.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not watching?

I’ll assume you’re talking about the first out (the second was a K). Beckett made a nice play. He came off the mound to field the ball and since his momentum (NG’s fave word) was carrying him toward 1B, he took it himself.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nyet.

They’re showing Mets at MFYs.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Youk should have had that

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

90 MPH change up

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Second strike

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gameday is wrong

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's all about spin axis.

Pretty sure 2 seamers and change-up’s don’t rotate the same way.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nor do they break the same way

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw it. It was a straight change.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, his 2-seemer is faster than his change.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*2-seamer

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

Which would mean that a 90 mph pitch would likely be his 2 seam, no?

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

Beckett’s change is too hard: 90 MPH. His 2-seam is 92-94.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That wasn't a bad pitch

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

None of them were.

He’s just gotten burned by 3 guys taking bad swings.

by USG on Jun 14, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then Kott should be mixing pitches better.

I like the two consecutive curves to Dobbs, but gotta locate better.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kott's calls were fine.

If people put bad swings on good pitches and happen to get hits, that’s neither part of the battery’s fault.

by USG on Jun 14, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank God only one run.

I thought Green was gonna mess that up for sure given the way that was going.

And why does Johan Santana dominate almost every team, but not the Yankees?

by USG on Jun 14, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nick Green makes the play Castillo couldn't

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rocco!

That’s why he’s on the team. He hits lefties!

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Easy park to HR in

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Before the New Toilet opened

It was the biggest HR park in MLB.

Now it’s in second place by over 15%.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the stadium is nice but mostly because its all shiny & new. Their history is nicely on display – somehow the 2004 history was MIA ( ha, ha)

Its just too big - - lots of confusion inside & around the park – getting back to MetroNorth, location of elevators, etc

I was surprised there were lots of empty seats considering the crosstown rivals were in town.

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They really should've made it expandable.

So that they could have it at 40K for small series, and 60K for big series. Would’ve required a bigger field though, for what I have in mind. Is it legal for the field dimensions to change, from game to game?

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't know about game to game

but did read an article about the Mets possibly changing the dimensions at Citi if it didn’t turn out to be a pitchers’ park as was the plan but if I recall it was to be an off-season change

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm...

Yeah, it seems like it would be a bit unfair. Can’t have them loading up on righty pull guys to face a LHP and shortening LF. Too bad – it’d cool to have the seats slide out into the field for more seating. Maybe seats could be made so that they stack, and could be raised up to form 1, 2, or 3 levels of seating in the OF.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mets have 'em loaded

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Afternoon All!

Go Sox!

Cora up; bases loaded, no outs for the Mets.

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome aboard

Cora will hit into a triple play.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for nothing Cora

strike out

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better than a triple play :-)

C’mon, MassGal. It’s Alex Cora. He sucks.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kott walkds.

Apparently Happ sucks. Of course, now he’ll switch into domination b/c I jinxed it.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn you Lugo!

MAKE ME HATE YOU!

by USG on Jun 14, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lugo singles ...

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

" another hit for Julio Lugo"

 Julio “player of the game” Lugo

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Mets came up empty

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They kinda suck

I know they have many on the DL but come on!

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody chokes like the Mets

I went to one of the Sox exhibition games at their new park. Mets fans were still talking about the ’86 Series. Pathetic.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Truth.

Two years in a row, they have to win just ONE GAME in the final series to make the playoffs. And two years in a row, the bullpen choked like they were the 2004 Yankees during the ALCS.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to go Ells.

Good plate appearance.

by USG on Jun 14, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In play, run(s).

Someone needs to make a shirt saying that on the front, with In play, out(s) on the back.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Long SF for Ells

3-1

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn Ellsbury

Trying to play well to lure Tito into moving him back into the lead-off spot.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Youk walks on Ball 5

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bay!

4-1

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn Lowell.

Can’t you just let the kids have fun?

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nats up, 1-0.

That won’t last.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 hits for Green

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually, he was OK with it

He only used two of Carlin’s seven words when he found out.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha.

World’s gonna be less colorful without Carlin, even if he did make fun of baseball.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

114 HRs at the FAILPARK

28 HRs more than any other ballpark (Arlington, Camden tied at 86).

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

God, that's insane.

Wonder if they’ll change it – guess it depends on if they can win in it.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

One of the talking heads on ESPN made a good point – what big name pitcher will want to sign with them and pitch in that park, against an insanely good AL East?

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a big name pitcher

who wants to be “closer to his family”; “play for a winner” , “be part of the mystique”— in other words – someone who wants buckets of money

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice AB by Lugo

They’re loaded for Ells.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nats now up 4-0

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They're playing the Rays

So they can go up 20-0 for all I care.

Against the Sox, though, they better go belly up.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothin' again.

Threaten in 3 innings, score in 1.

by USG on Jun 14, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hard to score on a single followed by two walks.

On the other hand, 84 pitches through 3 innings for Happ.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why is he still pitching

6-0; 1st & 3rd- no outs

 Captain America up

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

again, why

I watched in amusement & horror as Girardi let Pettitte “Dice K” his way to a loss yesterday. The bullpen was still when there really needed to be action.

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Girardi really can't manage a whole team.

Good catcher and all, great with pitchers, IIRC, but he never gets his pen going at the right time.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Today

It’s prononuced “you suck.”

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HA!

“yo-han” looks like a big yo-ham in his game day pic…he looks SUPER excited to have his pic taken

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, geez, he's not even pitching right now.

Back to our game – WTF? Happ’s pic is rotated like 45 degrees.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love 1-pitch outs

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

F them.

We’ll just have to make sure the MFY get those losses back.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

11-0.

This is unreal.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With an 11-run lead, A-Rod becomes a very dangerous hitter

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha.

True. Almost Sosa-like in garbage time.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Mets will make a game out of it

I can feel it

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only if Giriadi brings in Jose Veras

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He might have to.

Burnett’s been sitting a long, long time. 45 pitches and counting thrown by the Mets in the bottom of the fourth alone.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ed Valentine over at PSA

has a nice shout out to Sox fans about the treatment of Ortiz this season

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope

just a general comment, not really connected to any prior posts

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He seems like a decent guy

For a MFY fan.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

smells like teen spirit?

here is an unrelated comment: Ashton Kutcher bugs me

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, completely related.

Nirvana song = didn’t like preps listening to their music = Kutcher

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Santana can either be lights out or his change up is going to end up in the right field porch...

Matsui is also pretty evil against southpaws

This was the game that the Mets were suppose to win… Yesterday’s game was suppose to be the blowout.

by superferret on Jun 14, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, guys, a 6 pitch inning.

Good thing that puts Happ at a nice round, mayhem causing number: 100

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Beckett's out of touch with his inner hitter

Forgot to grab his bat before heading to the on-deck circle.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Went back

But by then the inning was over.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh.

Forgot Kott wasn’t up there very long.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, I know we need a good young catcher, and that Bryce Harper's gonna be great and all...

But now he’s enrolling in JuCo so he can get drafted next year. Plus he’s a MFY fan and think’s he’s the best ball player ever. Kid’s lame.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is it me

or does Orsillo seem panicked lately or overly excited- crossing into Sterling/Kay/Waldman territory. Maybe its easier to notice him without Remy

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he really likes Interleague?

Or he’s excited for Lowrie and Smoltz to come back?

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's because Roberts is in the booth with him.

Makes Orsillo look even more “vivid” by comparison.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good point

that might be it

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The first really hard hit ball this inning

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Also, the Jonas kid from my Oregon Trail game last night died right after I logged off.

Snake bite finally did it. I made it to within 100 miles of Oregon before dieing of exhaustion.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Orsillo is that you?

That inning wasn’t great but its over. Come on Sox, get the runs back

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Finally.

Let’s go, offense. Beck, you had better pick up some of the slack, dude.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he heard ya

he aint playin’

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oof. AAAA line-up for the Sox today, eh?

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Jun 14, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Usually works when we try it.

Not so much a AAAA lineup as it is bench.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No DH, no Pedey, no Tek, no Drew

But the offense is doing OK given all that, actually, except for the usual LOB disease.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beckett!

“Fuck this shit. I’m tying it.”

by USG on Jun 14, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s pretty much how Beckett talks in his post game interviews. I find him quite amusing, intense, angry..like Sheffield in a way — just less scary than the “I will beat your a$$” aura of Sheff

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jun 14, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beckett!

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Baldelli is too deep in RF

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by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Red Sox need to sign him

they are losing money every time he gets to the plate. Just nip it and pay the man. He is not cooling off at all. If he goes 280 with 35 + HRs and 130+ Rbis, his agent is gonna just sit back and count his money.

by SoxAcumen on Jun 14, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This.

And find a guy to give Lowell some time off.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

but ill say this Jason Bay should understand Boston is perfect for him and he might not produce as well as he does at Fenway. So you might be able to get him for 16 million a year.

by SoxAcumen on Jun 14, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd do that.

$20, 18.5, 16.5, 15, 15 – front load it.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bay doesn't want to talk until after the season

Basically he is looking for the highest price, and there could be many offers

by superferret on Jun 14, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ive heard the same

I think Theo is waiting for Bay to go into a slump so he can use it as a tactic in negotiations and also waiting for Holliday to heat up to keep speculation about the Sox going after him in the off season. All bluffs but probable.

by SoxAcumen on Jun 14, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are trying to get a multi year deal..

The only reason Holliday is a factor, if Bay doesn’t sign in the off season, the Sox will offer something to Holliday. Bay will get much better offers in the off season than doing signing now. The Sox would like to sign him to a probably a four year deal. He may want a longer deal, or a Tom Hick type of owner who will give him some obscene amount.. Everything points that Bay is delaying negotiations during the off season. The Red Sox would be in a huge position if they can signed him now, because they can probably save money than in the off season. It has nothing to do if Holliday is going to dump before the Free Agent Deadline…

by superferret on Jun 14, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont agree

His best negotiation point is NOW. The Red Sox know the Yankees will be in on him, Holliday is also available, people in Boston love him and he might cool off.

Sign now get the 17 a year and never pay for a drink/meal in Boston again.

by SoxAcumen on Jun 14, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tough error

Utley made a great take-out slide.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was it an overthrow?

Maybe Lugo needs to follow Concepcion’s and Ozzie’s lead with the bounce throws.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

He bounced it, with Bard covering.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That explains it.

Seems like he makes a lot of overthrows though.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jesus, Bard. Throw a strike

Park is a pitcher!

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Two of those were strikes.

Jesus, blue.

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Jun 14, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THE BAD NEWS JUST KEEPS ON COMING!

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by BoSox415 on Jun 14, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

We need to be “overwhelmed” to deal him, b/c Theo’s scarred that the whole Arroyo thing will happen again.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is that bad news?

He has been pretty good, much better than Dice-K. There doesn’t seem to be a market for him, and you don’t know what Smoltz will do. Buchholz and Bowden will get their time. Why just dump Penny?

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jun 14, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're not doing terribly

For such a f*cked up order. Lugo at lead-off? Green at second base? Ells hitting in the 2-hole? No DH? It’s a wonder we scored five runs.

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by BoSox415 on Jun 14, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but it would usually be a drop off in hitting.

If DP wasn’t slumpy all season. Sad fact: Green has more homers.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I said last night

I suspect Pedroia has been playing injured most of the season. (Another WBC-related injury.)

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

11-6.

Lugo SF.

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by BoSox415 on Jun 14, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Jun 14, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kinda.

OMG it totally just went full circle. Baseball = Tex = Leigh = PB = PB&J Time song = Baseball

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How does Leigh = PB again?

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by BoSox415 on Jun 14, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a running joke....

PB has more sex appeal than Leigh.

Also, Hey everyone, just got back turned the game on.

We are losing…..Lugo’s fault?

by ruktuim on Jun 14, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's as good a scapegoat as anybody else today.

Bullpen outside of Masterson doesn’t win any prizes, either.

Thank heavens for an off-day tomorrow.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh

I normally just guest Lugo if he was in the game, and I havn’t had a chance to watch.

by ruktuim on Jun 14, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And you'd usually be right.

You’ll be happy to know, kinda, that he DID have an error earlier.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Masterson in now.

Vote: Worse game – this or the “Jve = pitcher, Javy = RF” game in Tampa?

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tampa.

No question.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IDK.

While that game was horrible from the beginning, this one had the big swing from us being up big to losing even bigger.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But that was against an AL East team.

Today, it’s interleague, and we got a real sh!tty line-up right now.

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by BoSox415 on Jun 14, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

This is not a normal Sox lineup. Just four starters at their normal positions.

by lone1c on Jun 14, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

So I was like “Hey, we’re doing pretty well with this lineup” but now I feel like poop.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But 6 runs with only four regular starters?

Pretty good.

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by BoSox415 on Jun 14, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lowell!

1 for 5.

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by BoSox415 on Jun 14, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Game.

Off to watch a video of Ichiro pitching in Japan.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 14, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It was almost a throwaway game today

Like a split squad B team playing in Spring Training. Francona probably figured he could afford one like this after winning the first two and having an off day tomorrow.

by dsharp on Jun 14, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Under the circumstances

There’s not much Tito could have done: between the grind-it-out battle that is every Sox-MFY series, Friday’s extra-innings game, and last night’s rain- and Dice-K-induced workload for the regular lineup and the bullpen, they were pretty hosed. They just had to get out of today’s game with as little long-term damage as possible.

by lone1c on Jun 15, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True.

Sucks that it counts the same as loss in late September though.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jun 15, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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