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Do the Sox Target Yankee Hitters?

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During the first Sox-Yankee series there was a lot of press about Joba throwing at Youkilis.  Over at Pinstripealley, Ortiz' quote warning Joba not to headhunt was derided and many posters complained about how the Sox target Yankee hitters with no retaliation.  I tried to bring some rationality to the discussion but was shouted down (including arguments made with the use of some faulty statistics).  Given the obvious targeting of Bay last night, I thought it would be a good time to look at this carefully.

Lets take the years 2004-now for three reasons.  First, this is the period of great angst for Yankee fans.  Second, this is a long stretch. Third, before this time nearly all players involved are no longer with these two teams.

From 2004 till now, Yankee batters have been hit 60 times by the Sox.  Sox batters have been hit 53 times by Yankee pitching.  The greatest offender for the Sox is Wakefield, who has hit 8 in that span.  Thus, the Yankees have actually hit more batters than the Sox have in this span with balls traveling faster than 60 MPH.  Of course this does not take into account the obvious cases of Joba throwing at Youkilis, since 3 missed and one was a foul ball, but clearly there is no targeting going on.

Do the Sox hit the Yankees more than other teams do?  No, not really.  For example, Toronto has not played the Yankees yet, but in the span 2004-2008 Jays pitchers hit 49 Yankee players.  While all of this might be clear and obvious to us, I hope some Yankee fans read this and come to their senses about this strange conspiracy theory. 

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And Wake doesn't have much control over the knuckleball

you can never always put a knuckleball where you want it to go. People get hit by the knuckleball a lot. And if Wakefield actually DID want to hit someone, why not do it with his blazing 72-MPH fastball as opposed to a 59-MPH knuckler?

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on May 6, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, the fastball would definitely do a lot more damage. Just seeing something straight would mess up their head…

by Randy Booth on May 6, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ow!

“I think that’s gonna bruise. Well… maybe not, but stil – ow!”

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on May 6, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

So that’s 60 HBP since 2004? Over five full seasons, that’s 90 regular season games, or 0.67 HBP per game.

And eight of them were from Wake. There are only three ways to get hit by a pitch from Wake:

1) Fall asleep in the batter’s box while waiting for the pitch to get to the plate.
2) Being incredibly stupid.
3) Trying to get hit.

So figuring the MFY are going with #2 and #3, let’s discount those eight. That leaves 52 HBP in 90 games, or 0.58 per game. If they want to cry over that, I’ll get out the world’s tiniest violin and play them a small dirge.

by RSNexile on May 6, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Only 60 HBP’s since 2004. Jeter alone should have been hit 60 times.

by BTLove on May 7, 2009 2:18 AM EDT reply actions  

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