Boston Red Sox @ Tampa Bay Rays GameThread, May 3, 2009 1:38 PM EDT

Can Brad Penny please, please, please pitch well?

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by Randy Booth on May 3, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Pretty Please?

Because John Smoltz will knocking at the door soon.

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Screw Smoltz

We’ve got Buchholz and Bowden ready RIGHT NOW. Given the strain on the pen, we should seriously consider bring one of them up. Then we can move Masterson back to the pen for setup / long-relief duty.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

I was just themed in on the “Buy Cheap/Big Rewards Pitchers”

Wonder is Bucholz is over that Hamstring injury. But Bowden for sure.

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lineups

CF Ellsbury, Jacoby
2B Pedroia, Dustin
DH Ortiz, David
1B Youkilis, Kevin
RF Drew, J.D.
LF Bay, Jason
3B Lowell, Mike8
C Varitek, Jason
SS Lugo, Julio

This can’t be good

by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Fixed

CF Ellsbury, Jacoby
2B Pedroia, Dustin
DH Ortiz, David
1B Youkilis, Kevin
RF Drew, J.D.
LF Bay, Jason
3B Lowell, Mike
C Varitek, Jason
SS Lugo, Julio

These can’t be good.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

Hmmm….Dusty’s been awful quiet lately.

Not bad, just quiet. Hopefully ready to explode.

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anyone would look quiet

after hitting .349 / .442 / .442 over the 11 game win streak.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Penny will be good for someone.

I hope it’s the 2009 Red Sox. There’s still time for him to come around, and it’s not like he’s the only Sox pitcher who hasn’t been doing well. Beckett, Lester and Masterson -basically everyone whose name doesn’t rhyme with “Jim Takefield” – have all been mediocre or bad to start the season.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He could be good for Texas...

In a package for a certain catching Propsect that rhymes with “My Aunt’s Tomatogarden” or a dish from my local Italien Restaurant.

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Everyone has to realize: Brad Penny has no value. No one wanted him (really) in the FA market and who wants him now?

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by Randy Booth on May 3, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it might be a quiet afternoon here on OTM

But then again people will probably show up as the game begins and progresses.

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It's always quiet on Sundays

And weekends in general.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here we Go!

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Typical Ellsbury AB

Big Gay James challenged him. One out.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Pedroia must be leading the league in 1-out hits

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by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

dusty with the base hit

"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads

by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice AB by Papi

2 on for Youk

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh God, Penny.

Runs and hides

by USG on May 3, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Afternoon All!

Go Sox!

Those cowbells are dumb, dumb, dumb. I just don’t get the connection to baseball & didn’t find that SNL skit to be the least bit funny.

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on May 3, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hiya

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Youk loads 'em up.

Come through, Drew.

by USG on May 3, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

They're loaded for Drew

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by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

1-0, good guys

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by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

whoo

sox strike first

"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads

by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

1-0

Good bit of hitting, Drew.

by USG on May 3, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What is Bay's deal with the off-speed stuff?

He just looks ugly against it.

by USG on May 3, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He's a dead fastball hitter

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bay is not good with off-speed pitches

C’mon Mikey!!

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by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

To be fair

Shields has really good off-speed stuff, much better than his ho-hum 90-92 MPH fastball.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

But Bay looks routinely bad whenever he swings at off-speed stuff. So many swings-and-misses.

by USG on May 3, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Crap!

We should have scored more that inning.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I want the Sox to knock James out of the game early

newsflash: the Rays bug me.

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on May 3, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

they did a good job of runing up his pitch count early

"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads

by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

I can’t stand them.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brad Penny vs. Evan Longoria

Does that matchup make anyone else shit their pants?

by USG on May 3, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I love 1-pitch outs

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by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I dunno

I kind of prefer they drive the pitch count up so that Terry will be more willing to pull Penny if he implodes.

by USG on May 3, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I want him to pitch well

I want a rested pen for the MFY series.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

doesn't seem like Penny is going to give you what you want

but its early

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on May 3, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No

But if you’re a Sox fan, you shouldn’t be rooting against him.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not to be a pessimist but

this is how it usually starts

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on May 3, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice throw, Tek

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Good to know that the Rays hitters can't steal Center off of us.

by USG on May 3, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, that's a fairly good strategy for Longo.

by USG on May 3, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Tek woke up

on the wrong side of the grave today.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

“a walk is worse than a home run” & other McCarver-isms can actually make sense at times

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on May 3, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Brad Penny used to have an explosive fastball

now it sits at 88mph and he can’t even locate it for strikes. We are so screwed in this game.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, he’s hitting 88. Last game — 95. What’s up?

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by Randy Booth on May 3, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

A few starts back, Remy said:

Penny throws harder as the game goes on. He just hasn’t gone too deep lately.

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by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hate you Brad Penny

So much.

by USG on May 3, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The good news

Is that next week’s 5th starter is through 4 scoreless in Pawtucket.

Whoo!

by USG on May 3, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice K

Sit down, Burrell.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He's off to a really bad start this year.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

... And K's Zobrist to end the inning

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

nice

two straight backwards k’s for penny.

"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads

by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thank God it's only 1

Penny still sucks.

by USG on May 3, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice recovery by Penny

& I really don’t like Tropicana Field. I cant get comfy there & enjoy a game.

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on May 3, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I've got an idea about that.

I think it’s because it’s a shitty park. But that’s just my starting theory.

by USG on May 3, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did Martinez just call the Carcass "a good Major League hitter"?

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by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He's started out alright.

Save the flak for July, when he’s batting with Mendoza for minimal power.

by USG on May 3, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ells gets on

base hit back up the middle

"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads

by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

and he gets caught stealing

"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads

by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He didn't get caught, the umpire called him out. He was safe.

Tools Whore

by Tyler on May 3, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Same thing

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not really

One of those you have control over as a baserunner. The other one is pure shit luck..

by USG on May 3, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He ws called out. That's caught stealing

He got a SB v. the MFY when he was clearly out. That was an SB.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

Penny looked good in that AB.

by USG on May 3, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hell all.

I am a lazy POS. Just got out of bed.

by BTLove on May 3, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

"h*ll" yourself

& afternoon

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on May 3, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

gotta put my TV on mute

Epstein knows what he is going as a GM but he talks like a child. Get him out of the booth. He is bugging me.

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on May 3, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I liked the part

Where he openly acknowledged Ellsbury’s OBP problem in a game where he’s STILL batting leadoff…

by USG on May 3, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Scoreless inning for Penny?

CY PENNY TIME

AM I RIGHT?!!!

GONNA DESTROY THE LEAGUE!!!

OH YEAH!!!

Weeps softly

by USG on May 3, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice inning for Penny

I’ll take 5 more just like that

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

LAAAAAAAAAAAA v. MFY postponed -- rain

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on May 3, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Both those teams are in trouble.

Its good to see

by BTLove on May 3, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Easy inning for Shields

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well, giving Shields an inning off.

Just when it looks like we’d have 4 innings against a beleaguered Rays pen.

by USG on May 3, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The TBS guys just said that Ortiz needs a "slump buster"

Anyone remember when it came out that some Sox players would go bang an ugly chick in order to break out of a slump? I think it was Nomar and Lou Merloni.

by BTLove on May 3, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So, I wonder

When can we finally just get over it and call it a Mo Vaughn like decline? I forget, in 2002, were people talking about Mo’s 3-year-slump? I mean, honestly.

by USG on May 3, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Im still hoping

by BTLove on May 3, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think we're all hoping.

But I don’t think the Roosevelt administration was avoiding using the R-word in 1936. At this point, it’s starting to sound ridiculous.

by USG on May 3, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whats the worst slump Papi has had over the last 5 years?

Other than this one. Anyone know?

by BTLove on May 3, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The first 5-6 years of his career.

After that he put up consecutive seasons of 140+ OPS+ until last year, so clearly his slumps weren’t that bad.

by USG on May 3, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Last year in April he had a .644 OPS. Then he had a great May.

by BTLove on May 3, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

5 Ks for Penny

Hos fastball is sitting 93/94 MPH.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Boomer Wells is the TBS analyst and hes impressed

by BTLove on May 3, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lucky double for Iwamura

I hate that guy.

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by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Burned by lucky shit.

Fuck

by USG on May 3, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Anooying flare hits. Damn

by BTLove on May 3, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

FUCK YOU JULIO LUGO.

FUCK YOU. NO REALLY. FUCK YOU

by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Awful feed by Pedroia

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I RATHER BLAME LUGO THAN THE MVP

IT FEELS BETTER THAT WAY

by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn it, Pedroia

That should have been a DP!

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by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Lugo!!!!

by BTLove on May 3, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Is Lugo allergic to DPs?

Got lucky on the call of a drop while transfer, he never had full control of the ball.

by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i want nick green

by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by NG on May 3, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tek can't even throw out a back-up catcher

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Penny pitching well.

He got really unlucky that inning.

by BTLove on May 3, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

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by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Penny isn't pitching badly

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by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

Pretty good line so far. Just got some bad luck last inning.

by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So I take it Jason Bay is fine?

Was just pulled as a precaution yesterday?

by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I guess so

Hasn’t helped his batting today though

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Didn’t seem like he was running hard to get that last flare out there

by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

4-pitch walk for Tek

That’s a gift. We gotta get a run here.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Damn

I thought Luhgo had a hit there.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Same.

Uptons fast.

by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And he plays shallow

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by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

2 hard hit balls this inning

and nothing to show for it

by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

My thoughts exactly

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You can play Varitek and especially Lugo and likely loses, OR

you can play George Kottaras and Green and likely win! That’s seems pretty simple and obvious to me. Now maybe managing is tantamount to rocket sicence, but I kind of doubt it. Francona better start wising up or his judgement may well be in question.

by NG on May 3, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Can't sit combined 14 million a year if they're "healthy" every day

Theo needs to deal with the Lugo situation. Tough to trade a guy who plays with cement on his shoes in the field and makes 9 mil. Although I’m in favour of the same sort of trade that got Everett out of town, essentially a "we pay his salary and you send us a bucket of balls and/or darren oliver

by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also

Kottaras is significantly worse than Tek, especially defensively.

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by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Have you been watching Crawford?

He is not even waiting more than one pitch to steal on Varitek’s old and weak arm. Varitek’s hitting or lack thereof is starting to look like last year, so I have to disagree with you on Kottaras. At least he can hit. Now Lugo and momentum sucking, ERRRRRRR! Put the two (Lugo and Varitiek) together, and down memory lane as in last year we go.

by NG on May 3, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kottaras can't throw at all

He has a noodle arm. Have you been watching?

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

A stolen base

is more about the pitcher than the catcher.

Penny has a high kick in his delivery, making it alot easier for baserunners to steal off him.

Remember last sunday when Tacoboy stole home? That was because of Pettitte, not Posada. The longer the delivery, the harder it is to throw someone out

by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well why don't we just designate all singles today to be doubles

and be done with it. Is that good baseball.? Deal with these things!!

by NG on May 3, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not saying its good baseball

I am just saying, don’t place blame on Tek when it really isn’t his fault.

by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think the ells thing was a team fail

Pettitte should have checked the runner but was Posada asleep?

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on May 3, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was more on Pettitte

For not checking (after Posada told him that Ells was a major threat) and for having such a long delivery even with runners on. Posada wasn’t expecting it, but by the time he had the ball, it was much too late.

by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

uh huh

but its a team fail, battery fail, whatever you want to call it because Posada didnt even react. I just watched it again ( see below- have it on dvr, watching it bc today’s game sux).

As a Sox fan, I’d like to think Ells deserves the credit moreso than the MFYers get the blame.

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on May 3, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

7 Ks?

Are you sure this is Brad Penny on the mound?

I was expecting 7 ERs, not K’s

by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think Farrell told him it was opposite day.

ERs are Ks, HRs are groundouts, etc.

by USG on May 3, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, do whatever works

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by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lost in all this mess

is the fact that Penny is pitching really well. Disregarding the first inning, his stuff looks really good. That 4th inning was more bad luck/shitty defense than Penny’s pitching. If he can do this every game, I’d be thrilled to have him as a fifth starter. But that’s a pretty big if.

by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Crawford SB?

Shouldn’t that have been DI?

by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

8 Ks for Penny

Run support, please.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What do you think?

Papi hits his first home run in May or June? or maybe July?

by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

may

"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads

by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

april

of 2011

by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mon/Tues

Just needs to get it into the air at the new toilet bowl in the bronx

by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

tomorrow off Joba

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on May 3, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow Ortiz!

Way to make him work!

1 pitch?!?!? Amazing!

by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Kudos to Bay

on another 1 pitch out

by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Atleast make them work!

I dont care if its a 6 pitch strikeout or fly out, Just make Shields work so he can be out next inning!

by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

come on

that ball was absolutely ripped. it was just unfortunate it was right at someone. sometimes, the best pitch you get is the first pitch.

by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Go JD!

It seems as if you are the only offense today

by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Bay

:-(

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that was scorched too

sigh

by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can't take this

I really, really want them to beat the Rays.

I have to switch to the dvr’d Sox/MFY “ells steals home” game to get my baseball fix…this game ain’t cuttin’ it.

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on May 3, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It is all about weaknesses with Lugo and Varitek,

but especially Lugo. We are self destructing by playing these guys (especially Liugo) and unnecessarily so. If you have any influence or pull with Sox management, make these 2 bad guys go away, especially Lugo!

by NG on May 3, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Quit being irrational

By benching two players, we are going to win every game we play? Can you blame Tek and Lugo for todays loss? Lugo made an error yet if he didn’t, we would still be down by a run. And as far as crawford stealing, it was only turned into a run once, not every single time.

by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

See my post about the last 16 games! What are you trying to justify? Lugo will never be a good, winning player, and Varitiek’s good games are numbered to be sure. We lose little by replacing Varitek, but emotionally we gain a ton by replacing Lugo. You can just see it and feel it.

by NG on May 3, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Look

I hate Lugo aswell, and I am not too high on Tek either, but you are thinking in a borderline moronic way at this point. If you really think Nick Green or George Kottaras are viable replacements to Lugo and Tek, I don’t think we are watching the same baseball games. Green already has 6-7 errors. Yeah, he has some RBIs and works the bat better than Lugo (IMO), but he isn’t everyday material. Lugo is just thrown in there until Lowrie gets back in a couple weeks. After that, he will be benched. Hopefully for life.

Tek on the other hand, first it was his offense that was a problem. Now that he has actually hit 4 bombs and has a .250 average, thats not the problem. Now its the fact that “He cant throw out runners”. Really? Thats why you don’t like the guy? Tek can call a game better than almost any catcher in the league. It’s a shame that everyone loses sight of that.

by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

You will never win over NG.

When he dislikes a player, he really dislikes the player.

by BTLove on May 3, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not trying to win, just trying to be rational about the subject

Calling for a catchers head just because he cannot throw out a runner is idiotic. As I stated before, it’s more about the pitchers delivery than it is about the catchers arm.

Lugo on the otherhand, we all hate him. There is just nobody better right now.

by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with you.

by BTLove on May 3, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

In Medicine, there is a constant

complaint that if you pay Docs for outcomes only, they will not take the hard cases. Sure Green might have some errors, but he tries for everything. Friggin Lugo looks like he has on a heavy lead uniform with the resultant mobility and arm speed of a Varitek. He should make no errors with the limited ranger he has.

by NG on May 3, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I want Lugo to be referred to Friggin Lugo from now on.

It’s just that hilarious.

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