GameThread: Escape with a Split?
by Allen Chace on May 3, 2009 11:30 AM EDT
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Boston Red Sox at Tampa Bay Rays, May 3, 2009 1:38 PM EDT
Good G. Brad Penny again. I know I probably sound pretty negative right there, but I'm not sure how else to feel about him right now. Tired, tired, tired of how he's pitching. I would love nothing more for him to prove me wrong.
My favorite/least favorite Rays pitcher goes today, James Shields. How is he my favorite and least favorite? Well, I really don't like him, but for whatever reason he's the Rays' pitcher I'd most like to steal and put on the Sox.
...I can't explain it.
Kickoff at 1:38 EDT. (WTF is with the 8s in the start times down there? Is it a dome thing?)
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Can Brad Penny please, please, please pitch well?
by Randy Booth on May 3, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty Please?
Because John Smoltz will knocking at the door soon.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screw Smoltz
We’ve got Buchholz and Bowden ready RIGHT NOW. Given the strain on the pen, we should seriously consider bring one of them up. Then we can move Masterson back to the pen for setup / long-relief duty.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I was just themed in on the “Buy Cheap/Big Rewards Pitchers”
Wonder is Bucholz is over that Hamstring injury. But Bowden for sure.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lineups
CF Ellsbury, Jacoby
2B Pedroia, Dustin
DH Ortiz, David
1B Youkilis, Kevin
RF Drew, J.D.
LF Bay, Jason
3B Lowell, Mike8
C Varitek, Jason
SS Lugo, Julio
This can’t be good
by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fixed
CF Ellsbury, Jacoby
2B Pedroia, Dustin
DH Ortiz, David
1B Youkilis, Kevin
RF Drew, J.D.
LF Bay, Jason
3B Lowell, Mike
C Varitek, Jason
SS Lugo, Julio
These can’t be good.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Hmmm….Dusty’s been awful quiet lately.
Not bad, just quiet. Hopefully ready to explode.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone would look quiet
after hitting .349 / .442 / .442 over the 11 game win streak.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Penny will be good for someone.
I hope it’s the 2009 Red Sox. There’s still time for him to come around, and it’s not like he’s the only Sox pitcher who hasn’t been doing well. Beckett, Lester and Masterson -basically everyone whose name doesn’t rhyme with “Jim Takefield” – have all been mediocre or bad to start the season.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He could be good for Texas...
In a package for a certain catching Propsect that rhymes with “My Aunt’s Tomatogarden” or a dish from my local Italien Restaurant.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone has to realize: Brad Penny has no value. No one wanted him (really) in the FA market and who wants him now?
by Randy Booth on May 3, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it might be a quiet afternoon here on OTM
But then again people will probably show up as the game begins and progresses.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's always quiet on Sundays
And weekends in general.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here we Go!
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Typical Ellsbury AB
Big Gay James challenged him. One out.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pedroia must be leading the league in 1-out hits
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dusty with the base hit
"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads
by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice AB by Papi
2 on for Youk
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Afternoon All!
Go Sox!
Those cowbells are dumb, dumb, dumb. I just don’t get the connection to baseball & didn’t find that SNL skit to be the least bit funny.
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on May 3, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hiya
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Youk loads 'em up.
Come through, Drew.
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They're loaded for Drew
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1-0, good guys
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whoo
sox strike first
"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads
by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What is Bay's deal with the off-speed stuff?
He just looks ugly against it.
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's a dead fastball hitter
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bay is not good with off-speed pitches
C’mon Mikey!!
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
To be fair
Shields has really good off-speed stuff, much better than his ho-hum 90-92 MPH fastball.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
But Bay looks routinely bad whenever he swings at off-speed stuff. So many swings-and-misses.
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crap!
We should have scored more that inning.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I want the Sox to knock James out of the game early
newsflash: the Rays bug me.
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on May 3, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they did a good job of runing up his pitch count early
"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads
by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I can’t stand them.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brad Penny vs. Evan Longoria
Does that matchup make anyone else shit their pants?
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love 1-pitch outs
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
I kind of prefer they drive the pitch count up so that Terry will be more willing to pull Penny if he implodes.
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want him to pitch well
I want a rested pen for the MFY series.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesn't seem like Penny is going to give you what you want
but its early
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on May 3, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
But if you’re a Sox fan, you shouldn’t be rooting against him.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to be a pessimist but
this is how it usually starts
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on May 3, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice throw, Tek
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tek woke up
on the wrong side of the grave today.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“a walk is worse than a home run” & other McCarver-isms can actually make sense at times
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on May 3, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brad Penny used to have an explosive fastball
now it sits at 88mph and he can’t even locate it for strikes. We are so screwed in this game.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he’s hitting 88. Last game — 95. What’s up?
by Randy Booth on May 3, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A few starts back, Remy said:
Penny throws harder as the game goes on. He just hasn’t gone too deep lately.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The good news
Is that next week’s 5th starter is through 4 scoreless in Pawtucket.
Whoo!
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice K
Sit down, Burrell.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's off to a really bad start this year.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
... And K's Zobrist to end the inning
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice
two straight backwards k’s for penny.
"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads
by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank God it's only 1
Penny still sucks.
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice recovery by Penny
& I really don’t like Tropicana Field. I cant get comfy there & enjoy a game.
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on May 3, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've got an idea about that.
I think it’s because it’s a shitty park. But that’s just my starting theory.
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Martinez just call the Carcass "a good Major League hitter"?
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's started out alright.
Save the flak for July, when he’s batting with Mendoza for minimal power.
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ells gets on
base hit back up the middle
"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads
by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and he gets caught stealing
"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads
by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He didn't get caught, the umpire called him out. He was safe.
Tools Whore
by Tyler on May 3, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same thing
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
One of those you have control over as a baserunner. The other one is pure shit luck..
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He ws called out. That's caught stealing
He got a SB v. the MFY when he was clearly out. That was an SB.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell all.
I am a lazy POS. Just got out of bed.
by BTLove on May 3, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"h*ll" yourself
& afternoon
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on May 3, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gotta put my TV on mute
Epstein knows what he is going as a GM but he talks like a child. Get him out of the booth. He is bugging me.
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on May 3, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I liked the part
Where he openly acknowledged Ellsbury’s OBP problem in a game where he’s STILL batting leadoff…
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scoreless inning for Penny?
CY PENNY TIME
AM I RIGHT?!!!
GONNA DESTROY THE LEAGUE!!!
OH YEAH!!!
Weeps softly
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice inning for Penny
I’ll take 5 more just like that
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LAAAAAAAAAAAA v. MFY postponed -- rain
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on May 3, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Both those teams are in trouble.
Its good to see
by BTLove on May 3, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easy inning for Shields
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, giving Shields an inning off.
Just when it looks like we’d have 4 innings against a beleaguered Rays pen.
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The TBS guys just said that Ortiz needs a "slump buster"
Anyone remember when it came out that some Sox players would go bang an ugly chick in order to break out of a slump? I think it was Nomar and Lou Merloni.
by BTLove on May 3, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So, I wonder
When can we finally just get over it and call it a Mo Vaughn like decline? I forget, in 2002, were people talking about Mo’s 3-year-slump? I mean, honestly.
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we're all hoping.
But I don’t think the Roosevelt administration was avoiding using the R-word in 1936. At this point, it’s starting to sound ridiculous.
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whats the worst slump Papi has had over the last 5 years?
Other than this one. Anyone know?
by BTLove on May 3, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The first 5-6 years of his career.
After that he put up consecutive seasons of 140+ OPS+ until last year, so clearly his slumps weren’t that bad.
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last year in April he had a .644 OPS. Then he had a great May.
by BTLove on May 3, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
5 Ks for Penny
Hos fastball is sitting 93/94 MPH.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lucky double for Iwamura
I hate that guy.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FUCK YOU JULIO LUGO.
FUCK YOU. NO REALLY. FUCK YOU
by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Awful feed by Pedroia
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I RATHER BLAME LUGO THAN THE MVP
IT FEELS BETTER THAT WAY
by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn it, Pedroia
That should have been a DP!
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Lugo allergic to DPs?
Got lucky on the call of a drop while transfer, he never had full control of the ball.
by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tek can't even throw out a back-up catcher
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Penny pitching well.
He got really unlucky that inning.
by BTLove on May 3, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Penny isn't pitching badly
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So I take it Jason Bay is fine?
Was just pulled as a precaution yesterday?
by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess so
Hasn’t helped his batting today though
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t seem like he was running hard to get that last flare out there
by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4-pitch walk for Tek
That’s a gift. We gotta get a run here.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn
I thought Luhgo had a hit there.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And he plays shallow
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 hard hit balls this inning
and nothing to show for it
by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can play Varitek and especially Lugo and likely loses, OR
you can play George Kottaras and Green and likely win! That’s seems pretty simple and obvious to me. Now maybe managing is tantamount to rocket sicence, but I kind of doubt it. Francona better start wising up or his judgement may well be in question.
by NG on May 3, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't sit combined 14 million a year if they're "healthy" every day
Theo needs to deal with the Lugo situation. Tough to trade a guy who plays with cement on his shoes in the field and makes 9 mil. Although I’m in favour of the same sort of trade that got Everett out of town, essentially a "we pay his salary and you send us a bucket of balls and/or darren oliver
by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Kottaras is significantly worse than Tek, especially defensively.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you been watching Crawford?
He is not even waiting more than one pitch to steal on Varitek’s old and weak arm. Varitek’s hitting or lack thereof is starting to look like last year, so I have to disagree with you on Kottaras. At least he can hit. Now Lugo and momentum sucking, ERRRRRRR! Put the two (Lugo and Varitiek) together, and down memory lane as in last year we go.
by NG on May 3, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kottaras can't throw at all
He has a noodle arm. Have you been watching?
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A stolen base
is more about the pitcher than the catcher.
Penny has a high kick in his delivery, making it alot easier for baserunners to steal off him.
Remember last sunday when Tacoboy stole home? That was because of Pettitte, not Posada. The longer the delivery, the harder it is to throw someone out
by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well why don't we just designate all singles today to be doubles
and be done with it. Is that good baseball.? Deal with these things!!
by NG on May 3, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying its good baseball
I am just saying, don’t place blame on Tek when it really isn’t his fault.
by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the ells thing was a team fail
Pettitte should have checked the runner but was Posada asleep?
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on May 3, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was more on Pettitte
For not checking (after Posada told him that Ells was a major threat) and for having such a long delivery even with runners on. Posada wasn’t expecting it, but by the time he had the ball, it was much too late.
by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh huh
but its a team fail, battery fail, whatever you want to call it because Posada didnt even react. I just watched it again ( see below- have it on dvr, watching it bc today’s game sux).
As a Sox fan, I’d like to think Ells deserves the credit moreso than the MFYers get the blame.
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on May 3, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
7 Ks?
Are you sure this is Brad Penny on the mound?
I was expecting 7 ERs, not K’s
by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Farrell told him it was opposite day.
ERs are Ks, HRs are groundouts, etc.
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, do whatever works
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lost in all this mess
is the fact that Penny is pitching really well. Disregarding the first inning, his stuff looks really good. That 4th inning was more bad luck/shitty defense than Penny’s pitching. If he can do this every game, I’d be thrilled to have him as a fifth starter. But that’s a pretty big if.
by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crawford SB?
Shouldn’t that have been DI?
by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
8 Ks for Penny
Run support, please.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What do you think?
Papi hits his first home run in May or June? or maybe July?
by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow Ortiz!
Way to make him work!
1 pitch?!?!? Amazing!
by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Atleast make them work!
I dont care if its a 6 pitch strikeout or fly out, Just make Shields work so he can be out next inning!
by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on
that ball was absolutely ripped. it was just unfortunate it was right at someone. sometimes, the best pitch you get is the first pitch.
by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go JD!
It seems as if you are the only offense today
by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bay
:-(
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't take this
I really, really want them to beat the Rays.
I have to switch to the dvr’d Sox/MFY “ells steals home” game to get my baseball fix…this game ain’t cuttin’ it.
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on May 3, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is all about weaknesses with Lugo and Varitek,
but especially Lugo. We are self destructing by playing these guys (especially Liugo) and unnecessarily so. If you have any influence or pull with Sox management, make these 2 bad guys go away, especially Lugo!
by NG on May 3, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quit being irrational
By benching two players, we are going to win every game we play? Can you blame Tek and Lugo for todays loss? Lugo made an error yet if he didn’t, we would still be down by a run. And as far as crawford stealing, it was only turned into a run once, not every single time.
by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excuses, excuses, excuses.
See my post about the last 16 games! What are you trying to justify? Lugo will never be a good, winning player, and Varitiek’s good games are numbered to be sure. We lose little by replacing Varitek, but emotionally we gain a ton by replacing Lugo. You can just see it and feel it.
by NG on May 3, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look
I hate Lugo aswell, and I am not too high on Tek either, but you are thinking in a borderline moronic way at this point. If you really think Nick Green or George Kottaras are viable replacements to Lugo and Tek, I don’t think we are watching the same baseball games. Green already has 6-7 errors. Yeah, he has some RBIs and works the bat better than Lugo (IMO), but he isn’t everyday material. Lugo is just thrown in there until Lowrie gets back in a couple weeks. After that, he will be benched. Hopefully for life.
Tek on the other hand, first it was his offense that was a problem. Now that he has actually hit 4 bombs and has a .250 average, thats not the problem. Now its the fact that “He cant throw out runners”. Really? Thats why you don’t like the guy? Tek can call a game better than almost any catcher in the league. It’s a shame that everyone loses sight of that.
by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You will never win over NG.
When he dislikes a player, he really dislikes the player.
by BTLove on May 3, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not trying to win, just trying to be rational about the subject
Calling for a catchers head just because he cannot throw out a runner is idiotic. As I stated before, it’s more about the pitchers delivery than it is about the catchers arm.
Lugo on the otherhand, we all hate him. There is just nobody better right now.
by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Medicine, there is a constant
complaint that if you pay Docs for outcomes only, they will not take the hard cases. Sure Green might have some errors, but he tries for everything. Friggin Lugo looks like he has on a heavy lead uniform with the resultant mobility and arm speed of a Varitek. He should make no errors with the limited ranger he has.
by NG on May 3, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want Lugo to be referred to Friggin Lugo from now on.
It’s just that hilarious.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As MassGal says,
I can’t take this anymore, so I will watch the golf tournament for a while!
by NG on May 3, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
props to penny
great job today. first red sox starter to get a quality start this series.
by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good outing for Penny
His 3rd QS
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't get to the bullpen
if he keeps having 6-pitch innings
by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shields
has thrown all of 28 pitches in innings 5-7. well done offense.
by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MDC pitching
"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads
by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who will give up an ER first?
MDC or RamRam?
by Charged on May 3, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Time for Carl Crawford to steal two more bases
by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bobble or not
no way tek would have gotten him on that one. On the other hand, has Drew ever dove for a ball before?
by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i swear to god
this is the worst defensive team we’ve had in a long, long time
by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure where that's coming from?
Lowell’s not bad, DP’s solid, Youk’s a fielding machine, Ells is good, Bay’s not flashy but gets the job done. Leaves Tek, Lugo, Drew. 2/3 aint bad
by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drew is good, or at least average.
He is better than Bay. SS is our only really bad defensive position.
And Tippecanoe, remember all of the teams before 2005? The 2004 team was horrid defensively before the Nomar trade. Nomar, Belhorn, Millar were all bad defensively and the OF was alamost as bad with Damon, Manny and Trot.
by BTLove on May 3, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Defensive Efficiency
Sox are 24th in the majors in it, after being 2nd in 2007 and 5th in 2008.
could end up being SSS, but man they look awful out there.
by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is defensive eficiency measured? I don't even know.
by BTLove on May 3, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Def Eff, or Defensive Efficiency, is the rate at which balls put into play are converted into outs by a team’s defense. Def Eff can be approximated with (1 – BABIP), if all you have is BABIP, but a team’s actual Def Eff is computed with
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 – ((H + ROE – HR) / (PA – BB – SO – HBP – HR))
Thats the actual formula. Don’t know if you are a baseball scientist or not.
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But BABIP is often used to measure how lucky a pitcher is.
So can we really take it too seriously?
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it usually evens out over the season
so yeah, SSS warning is in effect
by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh...
The classic shield for predictions.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So its basically BABIP, just from a team perspective.
by BTLove on May 3, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much of that is skill and how much is luck?
I wonder because we often talk about high BABIP’s as if they will regress to the mean. Do we expect Defensive Efficiency to regress? or is it supposed to be more of an indication of the fielders’ skill?
by BTLove on May 3, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I was talking about.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it is supposed to indicate skill, now that I think about it.
When a pitcher has a high BABIP, one of the explanations is always the bad defense. But, as Tippencanoe says, it is early.
by BTLove on May 3, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
We’ll be fine.
- Lowell’s figuring out how the hip works.
- Youk’s already made his 1 error for the year.
- Pedroia will be fine once he gets his offense fixed.
- Lugo doesn’t count as a Sox, and Green’s only temporary with his hopping throws.
- Bay’s not great, but he can offset it by learning the Monster.
- JD just needs to hustle and be more willing to gun it.
- Ells is a god with the glove, but needs to let Bay and JD get the one’s they can if a throw is needed.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reverting to BadMDC.
No RALLY CAPS anymore since they failed us?
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you kiddin' me Tito?
LHP vs RHB? Are you pullin’ a Madden on us?
The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!
by radiohix on May 3, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't always work to match hands.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See Lopez and MDC's spilts for an excellent example.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very happy to be wrong!!
It worked out well! and this kid jones! Waow
The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!
by radiohix on May 3, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to go Hunter Jones!
Strand them runners!
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
And call up Bowden again.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sup with the home plate umps this series?
They really like it outside.
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tired.
Got home at 2 last night, slept on the floor, then went to church at 10.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
COME ON ORTIZ!!!!
Atleast see TWO pitches in this at-bat. PLEASE?!?!?
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But he'd need three to K.
/saddened Papi fan
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Papi isn't a GIDP type of guy
Thats Lowell or Drew.
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Lowell hit a homer last night, OK?
And Drew kept the outs at the plate.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point.
If only they could do that every game.
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ortiz: 2 GIDP so far this year
Drew: 3 GIDP
Lowell: 7 GIDP
by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lowell's slowed too.
Just thought I’d mention that.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Iwamura's a pretty good 2B, but he has trouble coming up on a ball sometimes.
Amazing that he was forced over b/c of Longoria.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else want Howell to fall on his face after he tries to land on his arm during the followthrough?
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK
"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads
by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Youk!!!!!!!!!!
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JD Drew is at the plate.
You know that right?
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still can’t figure out why Tito’s sacrificing having Ortiz 3 and Drew 5 for having the stupid lefty/righty order
by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He needs to be higher.
And IN FRONT of the big guys.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Single works too
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice hitting, Drew
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So, Bay has a penchant for dramatics, right?
Calling a shot right here.
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wheeler?
If so, he is a HR pitcher
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Wheeler
Jay Bay Bay gonna slam this one outta the park. Its only gonna be like 70 miles an hour at the most. Bay can hit the slow pitcher
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally thought of calling him that last night.
Great minds..
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Young minds think alike
The radio programmed us with this junk, but it works as a good nickname
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually hate that song, but it's catchy.
Damn Hurricane.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want someone to play ACDC's "Wheels" when he comes in:
Wheels
Spinnin’ around my brain
Driving you insane Wheels
Rolling ‘round my head
Going through the red Wheels
Goin’ down the road
Ready to explode Wheels
Burnin’ down the road
Hitting overload
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
base hit by JD
lets go jbay
"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads
by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the Rays bullpen strategy
Sign all the old washed up closers we you can find
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They didn't get him
They have Percival who is like 39, Isringhausen who is like prehistoric, and Wheeler who just sucks
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was joking.
I was going to say Mo, but that’d be wrong. Plus, isn’t Hoffman only on a one year deal?
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not washed up
Doing Okay for the Brew Crew
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coming from a fan of a team...
who’s had Timlin, Gagne, Saito, Fox, Lyon, yadda yadda over the last few years
by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True...
I haven’t liked any of them either – odd.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lyon was young when we had him
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by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss Timlin
Lets resign him. Our bullpen ERA will skyrocket!
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a good thing.
I’d like to jettison Saito though – he’s worse than Paps w/ the dramatics.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he's that bad.
I rather see Javy Lopez suffer some sort of career ending injury so that Daniel Bard can come up.
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RISP for Mikey
Get it done Lowell. PLZ.
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good at bat for jason to draw a walk after falling behind like that
"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads
by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to OTM, btw.
I haven’t seen you before that I remember.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Going back to what you said a few days ago,
I didn’t know Matzushocka was another teen? I did get the HONOR to meet Bosox415 he’s pretty jokey.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
I think we’ve nearly reached a balance of teens v. adults.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really think of myself as much of an “adult” btw.
by BTLove on May 3, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good for you.
You work as a ski instructor, right? You’re a kid.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ive been here off and on for a little while
i live in iowa so this is one of the few games i can actually watch. theses game threads are more entertaining when the game is on tv. if i cant watch the games ill usually check OTM to get the recap of the games.
"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads
by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you follow via MLB Gameday?
It’s actually pretty good. I found myself wishing they displayed the batter + Kzone on the jumbotron last night.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys should just get MLB.tv
20 dollars a month, watch all the games you want unless they are in your local market.
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather get a Rhapsody subscription...
or money for a car…
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't get a car for $20 per month.
and whats rhapsody?
by BTLove on May 3, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Music Service
Just use Pandora. Its freeeeeeee
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I can't use it on a basic MP3 player or PSP.
And you need webbbbbbbb accesssssss to useeeeeeee ittttttttttt.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya sometimes but its slow somtimes
ill follow it more often here in a week when i wont benefit from the cable here at Iowa State. when im at home i have to rely on the internets to get my red sox fix
"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads
by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, memories
Ames was the first place I ever had Jimmy Johns.
by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh..
Don’t think its gonna happen tonight. eight nine and one gotta get it done
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lowell got screwed on that 3rd pitch
Meh
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shittest Part of the Order up in the 9th
Shit!
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
C'mon.
Tek could totally bomb one. He did in Game 6 last year.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay but besides him
we got He-WHo-Must not be named and Ells.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pinch hitter(s).
Green and Bailey/JvE
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds good to me
But will Francona do it????
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carcass, Lugo, and Ells due in the 9th ...
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Then again...
We may not be within 1.
by Ben Buchanan on May 3, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Look on the bright side
we play these guys again next weekend!
by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And we're at the New Toilet tomorrow.
ON TV!!
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN?
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by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many lucky hits have the Rays have today?
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How many total?
Probably that – 1 or 2.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More than that
They had two in one inning
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speak of the devil
And I do mean “el diablo”….Lopez warming!
by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn it, I totally forgot to knock him out last night.
Had the perfect shot too.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please tell me it's not him coming in now...
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could get away with Murder
Manchurian Candidate?
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Psh.
I’m not under mind con- ooh, pudding.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Youk is genius.
Scraped up the chalk to prove it was fair.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ehhh!???
We are losing less you forget.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want to lose by 1, or 20?
You put RamRam in it stays at 1. You put Lopez in, we lose by atleast 500
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the hyperbole, but lets be realistic
Look at our batters in the 9th
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another steal
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He would have beat the throw anyway
Crawford is fast.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So who likes Crawford's 5 steals?
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy fucking Lugo
I will stab you with a rake.
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A rake?
Aren’t they usually bent at the ends of the prongs?
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will use enough force to stab him with it.
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitchfork
works better, old-school
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by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Real, Real, Archaic Old School?
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Place him into a Trebuchet
and Launch his ass back to L.A. along with the 36 million we have handed his ass.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Use a lunar module.
Lots of treasures in museums.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pull out a scythe and go Grim Reaper on his ass
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woah.
I liked Inda’s gun suggestion better.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so is that 2 errors for lugo today?
"Stats from the spring," he said when handed the numbers. "I can take those down to the spare bathroom in the house. We can put them to use down there."
- Paul Rhoads
by tseyb_06 on May 3, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IF single
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
Watch the replay. Crawford beat the throw. The ball wasn’t hit hard.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pull Ram-Ram, Save him
Fuck Lugo up the Ass with a desert Eagle and pull the trigger, Call in J-Lo
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Naw, it's cool.
Kill Lugo, but keep RamRam in.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
forget it
it’s his third consecutive day of pitching. there’s no way he’ll be available tomorrow.
by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We play against the Yanks
Don’t think we need much of our pen against Joba
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Supposedly Green isn't as great defensively
And supposedly the earth was flat.
by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lugo was trying to imitate his hop throw.
He noticed we love Green.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are both bad
Nick Green = 6 errors in 17 games.
Lugo = 2 errors in 5 games
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont like you Carl Crawford
or that tattoo on your neck.
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What the hell is it?
Looks a like cross between a Taurus sign and something else.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me
It looked like a single little spermie that was curled up. I think we should just call it that.
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted DP to kick Crawford in the face with his spikes.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, crap.
Gotta find a sports bar somewhere in the friggin state that has versus as will be open past 10pm
by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IT'S CALLED BRUINS!
They still use that slogan?
by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what, is that 7 steals?
My little bros, little league team can gun down runners better than the Sox right now.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
tied AL record for steals in a game by a single player
by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hit everything back to the pitcher.
Percy will break an ankle.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
regardless of the 9th
our winning streak in games started by nick green at SS is still alive
by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AH HA! I got it!!
Trade Lugo and Penny to L.A. for a Thank you card!
Despite Penny doing okay today.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They wouldn't even take them.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure they will remember I'm trebucheting them 36 million that is confiscated from Lugo
By the Constitution’s neccesary and proper clause.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on Lugo
get on base. it’s the least you can do.
by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
See, Julio?
That’s how a real major-league shortstop handles grounders
by jacques45 on May 3, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wouldnt it be cool if
Ells and Peds got on base, and Papi hit a 3 run homer that gave us the lead?
Boy that would be sweet.
Too bad we aren’t living in 2007
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
Although Rays fans are fighting with their star player for a ball.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is hope!
That ball will haunt them for the rest of the game, as they get their ass kicked
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh we HAVE to win now
Longoria missed out #3 because an idiot male Rays fan with a PINK HAT grabbed the ball from him!
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on May 3, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pink Rays Hat or Pink Gay Pride Hat?
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is florida
So probably the Pink Rays/Gay Pride collabo hat
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's that supposed to mean?
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The two groups got together and collaborated on a hat
The Rays are going to wear it on all games Julio Lugo plays
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant why does it being Florida make it any more likely?
I mean, we passed a bill that limits same-sex marriage rights.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I think of florida
I think of old people and same-sex relationships. Probably because of Miami
I have no problem with same-sex relations though, so don’t think I am trying to be a hatemonger
by Charged on May 3, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Old people, yes.
But those old people have issues with the homosexuals.
And I do have a problem with them, but it’s forbidden to talk about it on OTM, so let’s stop.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't say that anymore.
Randy/Allen/E.Coli will get mad.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm... it was a BP hat.
Not pink.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just saying, he might want to adjust his TV.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just saying
A rays fan in a pink hat is funnier and you should condone that.
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know.
But can’t be accusing without evidence.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im gonna rewind it and if he is wearing a pink hat, I will take a screen shot
by Charged on May 3, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the guy wearing an AL AllStar shirt from last season.
W/ the MFYStadium facade.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until Tomorrow everyone!
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 3, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank god it's over
It’s a good thing Theo is developing that young, stud catcher to replace Varitek.
Oh wait…
by Tippecanoe on May 3, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, that sucked
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have a good night all!
Sox will get the MFY tomorrow , weather permitting.
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on May 3, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Latest Lugo win-loss tally
Similarly to what I wrote yesterday, here is the updated tally on this concept:
Whether you believe in the metaphysical or not, some trends should not be ignored under the banner of "just in case"! According to my calculations in the last 17 games, the Sox have won 13 and lost 4. The one absolute common factor for all the wins was Julio Lugo did not start, and the one absolute factor for all the losses was Lugo started. Since the guy is a lousy player and a momentum sucker of first order, it hardly seems necessary to go into the realm of the metaphysical to assign some relation here, but do whatever you have to make a connection. NO MORE LUGO STARTS!!!
by NG on May 3, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 3, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Make a pie graph.
Games won w/o Lugo VS. Games won w/ Lugo
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 3, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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