Testosterone levels the reason for Manny's failed test.
by SoxDevil on May 15, 2009 12:33 PM EDT
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Several sources (LA Times, ESPN) are reporting that evidence continues to mount in support of Manny Ramirez' alleged use of performance enhancing drugs. His testosterone-to-epitestosterone levels were 4:1, the lowest level that MLB considers to be abnormal.
Looks like Manny was a little sloppy and just barely failed the drug test.
One source quoted in the LA Times reported that the elevated ratios were caused by synthetic testosterone. Additionally, hCG (human chorionic gonadotropin), the substance that Manny had a prescription for, was absent from Manny's test. Those facts, combined with the league's action seems to support the allegations.
I've always been a Manny apologist, but it's tough to continue to support the beleaguered slugger. I'm convinced that Manny cheated. The question now is for how long? Perhaps the bigger question for baseball: is it coincidence that Scott Boras' clients seem to be the most frequently implicated and caught?
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Poor Dodgers
It’s not our problem.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 15, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
Nevetheless, Manny was one of my favorite Red Sox players and I loved to watch him hit. It’s very disappointing.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on May 15, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 15, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here’s the thing: there’s no way Manny JUST started using. So he had to be using when he was a Red Sox. There’s no possible way that he didn’t.
I don’t know how it works out, but it seems like the Red Sox always get these users off their hands before they’re found guilty…
by Randy Booth on May 15, 2009 12:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
See: Romero, J.C.?
(And the fact that he stunk for us.)
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on May 15, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brendan Donnelly too.
He was on the Sox DL when the mitchell report broke.
If I remember right.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on May 15, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm. I don’t think so. I think that was after his tenure with his Sox, but I may be wrong.
by Randy Booth on May 15, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Donnelly and J.C. were both with the sox 2007 and only 2007, Mitchell report came out Dec 2007, so both were gone when it came out (J.C. mid season and Donnelly became a FA at the end of the season)
by Realistic on May 15, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not the first time he was tested
Manny was tested repeatedly all the time.
Either
a) he suddenly forgot how to take the drugs to avoid detection
or
b) he started using in the past year
Personally, I think b) is more likely.
This Spring was not the first time his testosterone levels were tested.
by RickD on May 15, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, shouldn't the last option be for MassGal, not MGBB?
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 15, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!
Please make it stop!
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
by MassGal on May 15, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Point.
Maybe you should set up a filter on your browser for any page mentioning “Manny.”
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 15, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fat chance it'll happen now
But if we knew the results of the tests Manny supposedly passed, we could probably figure out when he started using—-or at least increased his usage—-by when the figures started trending towards abnormal.
My guess, though, was that it was more likely than not sometime after the 2007 WS: the combination of a contract year, weaker NL pitching, plus a little something extra could explain Manny’s extraterrestrial production after heading out west.
by lone1c on May 15, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We need some more Johnnie Cochranisms for Manny.
“If you’re not in the zone, shoot testosterone!”
“If Theo won’t kneel, then force him to deal!” (on the Bay trade)
Any others?
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on May 15, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“As long as you’re high, 50 games will will fly right by.”
by BTLove on May 15, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The one about Theo should be
“If Theo won’t play, make him get Bay!”
by lone1c on May 15, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if Manny won't play?
I don’t think we want Theo playing.
by RickD on May 15, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
players can test positive
when they are using. The need to cycle off at the right time, or take steroids that clear fast and hope for the best (eg deca-durabolin or primobolan) or use a drug that is not easy to catch (always making new ones, like the clear and cream were). Manny seemed to be doing the first thing and misstimed. Oh well…
Who cares that he was taking while on the Sox. So were others. Want to guess? Damon, Tek, Papi, Nixon…I don’t really care. 1/2 the 2000 Yankees are actually ON the Mitchell report. Should we void their WS? The Sox competition was also juiced. It is time to move on from caring about this.
by Buzzy on May 15, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i would go further than that
The drug testing has improved a lot since 2000. I think players who tested clean in recent years should be given more of a presumption of innocence than the players who weren’t tested at all in the 90s.
by RickD on May 15, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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