Alex Rodriguez a long-time steroid user?
by SoxDevil on Apr 30, 2009 10:31 AM EDT
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Additional details from the forthcoming book on Alex Rodriguez by Sports Illustrated's Selena Roberts have been leaked by the New York Daily News. Roberts alleges that Rogriguez used steroids and/or HGH dating back to high school and during his Yankee career. Here's a tasty morsel:
Roberts broke the story that A-Rod failed a steroid test in 2003. Yankees teammates, Roberts writes, nicknamed Rodriguez "B-tch T-ts" in 2005 because he put on 15 pounds in the offseason which included round pectorals, a condition called gynecomastia that can be caused by anabolic steroids.
2005 was A-Rod's second year with the Yankees.
José Canseco, a former teammate of Rodriguez, concurs, speculating that A-Rod juiced in high school.
"Was he on steroids in high school?" Canseco said in the book, the Daily News reported. "I think probably so. I worked out with him when he was 18. He could lift almost as much as I could."
While that offers no empirical evidence it is peculiar that Rodriguez, at 18 years of age, could lift nearly as much as an admitted steroid user in the midst of his professional career.
The Daily News also alleges that Alex Rodriguez "pitch tipped" when he played for the Rangers by letting opponents at the plate know which pitch was coming in lopsided games. A-Rod allegedly expected players he helped would return the favor when he was having an off night and needed to improve his overall numbers.
If this is true, A-Rod could (and should) become one of the game's most reviled players. And if this is true, A-Rod should be black-balled from the Hall Of Fame no matter what his career numbers are.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this story.
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Who knows
but it makes sense. His numbers have been very consistently good from a very early age, and many high school atheletes take steroids. I would imagine those in line for huge bucks like A-rod certainly may feel more pressure to take. The pieces that I read from the book on line this morning seem to interchange (a bit) HGH and steriods, which are very very different things, so I don’t know how accurate this all is.
by Buzzy on Apr 30, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If true, A-Rod is an All-Tool Player
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Apr 30, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Even if false
I think the Bronson Arroyo glove-slap, and subsequent hissy-fit when the umps had the unparalleled temerity to call him on it, closed the book on that one.
Rock me, sexy Jesus...
by nuthinboutnuthin on Apr 30, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love that they called him Bitch Tits.
Its incredible how little respect every teammate has ever had for this guy.
by BTLove on Apr 30, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was Botch Tots.
Like he couldn’t make tater tots properly or somethin’.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Apr 30, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happens a lot
when you’re better / better paid than everyone else around you.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Apr 30, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah
When I stride into our posh corporate offices here at Over The Monster Park, diamond-encrusted floozies hanging off me, a trail of twenties in my wake, I can just feel the eyes glaring at me. Allen keeps asking me if I can spot him for the golf tournament, and SoxDevil steals the limo sometimes… But I don’t mind. Compared to Randy, and his gold-plated helicopter, I’m modest.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on May 1, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know why you stick with the diamond-encrusted floozies.
Sure, it’s kind of flashy, but it sounds so painful.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
by Allen Chace on May 2, 2009 3:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa
The Daily News also alleges that Alex Rodriguez “pitch tipped” when he played for the Rangers by letting opponents at the plate know which pitch was coming in lopsided games. A-Rod allegedly expected players he helped would return the favor when he was having an off night and needed to improve his overall numbers.
I misread that at least three times – imagining that he was tipping pitches in favor of the Rangers. I couldn’t conceive of someone working against their team not named Pete Rose…
Rock me, sexy Jesus...
by nuthinboutnuthin on Apr 30, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pete Rose did not work against his team. He has been accused (and admitted to) betting on teams he was playing for. He has never been accused of throwing games to win money. The fact that he is not in the HOF is absurd beyond belief.
by BTLove on Apr 30, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, why the hell would a man that railroaded a catcher in an All Star game...
bet against his team?
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Apr 30, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pete Rose shouldn’t be in the HOF. Carl Mays has a better case to be in the HOF and he killed a batter. It wasn’t just the betting and gambling, but Rose’s massive tax evasion as well. He justly deserved getting his lifetime ban, and he shouldn’t be allowed near Cooperstown. The guy was a crook and he used his baseball career to support his criminal actions. Stuff like changing his Jersey each inning the night he broke Ty Cobb’s hitting to sell on the baseball memorabilia market.
by superferret on Apr 30, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a scumbag, sure.
But he’s also one of the best baseball players of all time. The HOF is for the best ball players. Period. Since when does breaking laws keep you out of the HOF? Since when does being a piece of shit keep you out?
He voluntarily accepted the ban when Giamatti was ratcheting up the investigation (most likely to hide the tax evasion stuff). It was not until after that ban that they decided permanently ineligible players do not get into the hall. Giamatti died shortly after and Rose was fucked because no one else would reinstate him.
I don’t know why our country has such a hang-up on gambling. Gambling is fun, everyone does it. And Pete Rose was awesome at baseball. End of story.
by BTLove on Apr 30, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB has always been paranoid about betting..
MLB is pretty paranoid of anything that can manipulate the game, and the White Sox scandal has always made baseball paranoid about any type of betting and bookies influence. MLB baseball is probably the dirtiest sport in terms of cheating for all North American sports, and there has to be due diligence, whether betting, doctoring the ball, groundskeepers helping the home team to performance enhancing drugs.
It is not that Rose had a gambling problem, it is he was using his stature and the game to keep his addiction going. He was milking the memorabilia market while still playing, and not reporting the income.
I would probably be okay with Rose entering the HOF if it was just gambling, but it wasn’t just gambling, and he was sent to prison for his actions, no matter if he was convicted after he made a deal with the League office or not. Rose ws in
by superferret on Apr 30, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats not why he was banned from baseball.
He was not banned for milking the memorabilia market. He was banned because of gambling. Maybe the other things made him a scumbag (he did serve time for tax evasion), but he was banned for gambling, plain and simple.
by BTLove on May 1, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What to be take with a grain of salt...
The allegations that he was taking steroids in high school are flimsy. They would have more validation if they are some evidence that Rodriguez was taking them when he was with the Tacoma Rainiers. Anything stated by Jose Canseco about A-Rod should light up a dubious meter. Canseco has been right on many things with his book, but also a windbag on stuff like Clemens.
What it seems there is more than second hand sources is A-Rod use of HGH with the Yankees. However, I see someone like A-Rod has a huge entourage to protect him when he was taking HGH than he went to the corner with Kevin Brown to take HGH. If A-Rod was taking HGH, I wonder if there was a general freak out in the Yankees locker room when Giambi was diagnose with a tumor on his pituatary gland.
As much as this looks all bad on A-Rod, it looks worse on MLB. This shows how rampant performance enhancing drugs were after the Baseball Strike, and they refuse to use WADA guidelines (World Anti-Doping Agency) or put a comprehensive drug policy in place. To have the top player in the game to be heavily involved in performance enhancing drugs is a huge black mark of many during the reign of Selig and Reinsdorf cabal.
by superferret on Apr 30, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I refuse...
…to take anti-Yankees’ allegations with any grain of salt or salt-related product. However, I continue to be skeptical of anything Canseco said.
However, I totally agree with the black mark on the sport. Not thrilled with the sportsmedia members who now assert that is a “tired story,” either.
Rock me, sexy Jesus...
by nuthinboutnuthin on Apr 30, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Canseco has said nothing false about any former teammates to this point.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Apr 30, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Canseco will say anything for attention. He is not reliable. I guess right now, for A-Rod he took PED (Performance Enhancing Drugs), it is the length and depth he was involved in PED, was he as heavily involved as Giambi?
Anyway, look Canseco’s quotes on Roger Clemens, and he was wrong on Clemens.
by superferret on Apr 30, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What, this?
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080212&content_id=2371645&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Technically, he wasn’t lying. Just because Clemens was using doesn’t mean that he was asking the most obvious user in the bigs where to get some. The writer of that article took some liberties with Canseco’s statement.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Apr 30, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
someone can cop a feel while rounding 3rd to see if indeed Arod is Mr. Bitch Tits.
by Buzzy on Apr 30, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Still on them
Why do you think he is back so fast from current injury?
by wdogg72 on Apr 30, 2009 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The pitch-tipping is what got my attention
The PEDs is a black-mark to be sure, but we’ve been down that road with A-Rod. The pitch-tipping is worse. Consider that A-Rod is hurting his teammates by doing this. The pitchers and relievers in the game make money on their stats exactly as A-Rod does his, and he’s essentially throwing them under the bus to accumulate favors.
A-Rod is talented, make no mistake, but the guy is a complete loser and scumbag and must have acceptance/inferiority issues. He has the moral fortitude of a slug .
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on May 1, 2009 9:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: pitch tipping
If the allegations are true, ol’ B*tch T*ts is in trouble.
I expect that nickname to stick, especially at Fenway.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 1, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if children are present:
BOTCH TOTS!!!
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on May 1, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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