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Sports: Loyalty vs. Rationality

In today's Boston Globe, Samuel Arbesman argues that being a hard-core fan is less rational than being a fair-weathered one. His rationale is rather involved, so I'm going to quote at length from the piece:

To understand why fair-weather fandom makes more sense, we'll need to apply a bit of logic, classical philosophy, and reason. ...

Very much back in the day, Theseus was the mythical king of Athens. And among his many possessions, he had a ship that he used to return from slaying the Minotaur. After his death, this ship was preserved for hundreds of years in the harbor of Athens. Or was it? Whenever a wooden plank rotted out, it was replaced. If a beam fell apart, a new one was fashioned in its stead. After enough time had passed, every part had been replaced. So now it was a boat that looked very much like the ship of Theseus, and occupied the same spot in the harbor, but not a single piece of it had existed when Theseus sailed. Essentially, it was a replica. And yet people persisted in referring to this ship as the ship of Theseus. In philosophy, this problem of identity has become known as the Ship of Theseus paradox.

To make the analogy abundantly clear: sports teams change from year to year. These days, they change a lot. You might hold a great attachment to the 2004 Red Sox World Series champions, but only around 10 percent of this year's roster consists of players from that team (actual fact!). And if you have been rooting for the Sox for more than 14 years, you're rooting for a fully replaced team - different players are playing the game, different owners get your ticket money. You can see why this is an absurdity. It is in no way the same team, and you are rooting for it out of inertia. You might as well root for any totally different team - the Oakland A's, the Tokyo Giants.

In other words, because teams change players over time, they have no real identity. Without some measure of constancy in the roster, attaching oneself emotionally to a team is absurd.

This argument rests on the following assumption: a team is merely a collection of players. It is not a proxy for our feelings of civic loyalty and regional identification, or other feelings. However, this assumption is misguided. There are many reasons to root for a team, and one of the primary ones is because they are local, they are tied to your city and community.

This is illustrated later in the piece, when Arbesman marvels at how sports fans feel about identical teams switching cities. When the Baltimore Colts headed for Indianapolis, most Baltimore fans felt betrayed. To Arbesman, they should feel loyalty to the departing players. But if a team is a proxy for the community, departing it IS an act of betrayal. Teams, like trees, put down roots in communities. Sometimes these are in the relations they form, like the Red Sox - Jimmy Fund partnership, but more often they are in the feelings of identification that local fans develop to the team. Severing those ties is painful, as embittered Baltimore fans will tell you.

Continuing with his faulty premise, Arbesman asserts that fair-weather fandom is the only rational choice:

So essentially, to say you are a "real" sports fan - the kind of red-blooded American who lives and dies for your team - is to admit that you throw your heart and soul behind a constantly shifting amorphous blob that has no persistent identity. And those fair-weather fans you look down on? They're the rational ones. It's time they got some credit. Think about it: They get to root for teams when it's actually fun, sampling disappointment only as often as they like. They get to choose teams based on color scheme, or mascot. The sky's the limit.

I find this argument hard to take seriously, for a couple reasons. Choosing teams on color and mascot hardly fits into the author's theme of rational philosophical decisions, especially since colors and mascots are also impermanent. A better rationale would be to choose teams because they are currently dominant and will provide the fan with a satisfying experience. Moreover, Arbesman describes himself as "a long-time fan of the Buffalo Bills," which makes me think the whole argument is in jest and insincere.

The reality is that fandom, like love or religion, is largely an irrational choice. There are certainly rational arguments that guide to and away from teams, lovers or religions, but in many cases we are swayed by emotional factors. Some of us associate our sports affiliations with family - harboring fond memories of watching the Red Sox with our parents or relatives. Some of us link it to the community, whether Boston was our birthplace, our college town, or our adopted city. Some of us may have started as bandwagoners, watching a good team at its height of popularity, but have formed a more lasting connection to it.

Fair-weather fandom isn't a more fun choice because part of the fun of sports is in the emotional connections we form. The triumphs are sweeter (and the troughs more depressing) when you feel emotionally invested in the team. When you don't, it's easy to leave when they're down 5-0 in the botttom of the 9th with one out, but then you'll miss the spectacular 6-run comeback.

It is in human nature to form emotional connections, to fall in love, logic and rationale be damned. Rail against emotion all you like, Mr. Arbesman, but as you readily admit ("long-time fan"), none of us are above it.

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I root for the laundry.

Arbesman does not know what love is.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Mar 22, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

Paul Lukas was on to something when he was answering questions about why he is so interested in uni’s – they’re the part of a team that changes the least.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Mar 22, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is another explanation for fair weather fans with a focus, IMO.

You see, I am one. I just do not love baseball (or any sport) that much. I need to see good games and good play to raise my interest, but I especially need good play from a team that I have an emotional connection with to really get into the game. The emotional connection for me comes from growing up with the Red Sox even though they were horrible for the first 20 year of my life. It is like innate imprinting, and is just there!

I can watch good games without the Sox playing, and I do enjoy that somewhat even though I really don’t care who wins. I just appreciate the good talent and the competition. I get board and can’t focus when teams play lousy, and I get board even with the Red Sox when they play lousy on an extended basis. However, when the Red Sox have the potential and do well most of the time, I’m in!

That’s my story. The story of a fair weather Red Sox fan!

by NG on Mar 22, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Get out!

NG is a fair-weather fan! That’s why he hates old players – because they are still around even though they’re not doing as well as they once did.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Mar 22, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This sounds

a lot more like hard-core fandom than fair-weathered. If you care about the team so much that failure is unacceptable and unwatchable, then it makes sense you would be frustrated . All of us feel that way to some extent, I think. Fair-weathered is a lot closer to not caring at all about the team, and rather than suffering when they suck, moving on to the next hot team.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Mar 22, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

I don’t think NG is fair-weathered or he would have given up on the Wakefield-Sox mid-September.

by BTLove on Mar 22, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man...

What does that guy have up his ass?

Probably was Detroit Lions Fan in 2008,
A Detroit Tigers Fan in 2003,
A New York Mets Fan in 1962,
And a Cal Tech Beaver Soccer player or something.

He needs a really big hug from Wally the Green Monster

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by sox-inda-south on Mar 22, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

E.Coli:

Please send this to a bunch of South Florida writers this summer if neither the Rays or Marlins are in first.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Mar 22, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow NG

I never would’ve picked it. At least you’re honest.
I grew up(in LA mind you) listening to my grandfather and father revisit the legends of Williams, Pesky and such from years gone by. Their was only one team you could follow in our house growing up. But by hearing those tales of yore, you(well I did) formed an attachment to the organisation, it’s history, it’s dire quest for the championship…it became a living, breathing entity. After 40 years of watching this proud organisation disembowel itself in ways never thought imaginable, 2004 came along and they didn’t choke. Didn’t f*ck it up, didn’t let us down, didn’t sh*t themselves when the pressure was on, they just got out there after being 3-0 to NY and simply won 8 straight games…simple as that, and it as all done. It almost went too quick, those 8 games…it was like, geez these aren’t my dad’s sox, nor my grandpas…they are my Sox.
And that’s why I’m a fan even now after being in Australia since the late 80s..and desperately trying to explain to my children why, if they chose to watch baseball, that this team is important to me.
I like sports of all kinds, football(soccer to you guys), rugby, cricket, hurling and ice hockey to name a few, but baseball has the romanticised history that no other sport seems to have.

by sydneysox on Mar 22, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Arbesman

Somehow, I kept reading Aardsma. Aar, how we hardly knew ye.

"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"

by MerryGoByeBye on Mar 22, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rational? Fans??

Rooting for a team is about PLACE. So that means, Boston, Fenway and
all that long history…. Williams, Piersall, Conley/Pumpsie, etc.

Who cares about rational???

by Sox in Phx on Mar 22, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This Arbesman

sounds like classic New York Yankees fan. In other words, a “what-have-you-done-for-me-lately?”-kind of guy.

A “fan” is loyal to his/her team regardless of whether the team wins or loses and stays with that team, year-after-year. Idiots like this Globe writer are clueless.

  “Loyalty” is the key word here and, sadly, that seems to be a character trait you less and less of in recent years with many people (but not most Red Sox fans).

by ccthemovieman on Mar 22, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You can read more about Arbesman

on his website. The academic work he’s done sounds pretty interesting. And on the site, he acknowledges that the piece in question was “tongue-in-cheek.”

I tend to think that if people write something for a major publication, their writing should serve some purpose. News informs us of relevant events. Opinion comments on the news and events, providing further insight and perspective (ideally). Satire illustrates absurdities, and often obliquely criticizes something (ex. Gulliver’s Travels is a satirical critique of the institutions of 18th century England). Humor amuses.

‘Tongue-in-cheek’ writing doesn’t really do anything – it’s not bitingly serious, it’s not terribly informative, and much of the time it’s not funny. Most sports fans with half a brain realize that sports fandom isn’t terribly rational, and aren’t bothered by that.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Mar 22, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He lists his e-mail. You should send him your piece and get his thoughts. I’d like to see what you get back from here on OTM…

by Randy Booth on Mar 23, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A good counter-point

The user comments on Boston.com are usually inane and facile, but I did think that this was a good one:

As for a counterpoint, I like peteregelston’s response. The ship is not its planks; it’s the dreams, will, and effort of its makers and passengers. — gerryfisher

It’s the sense of community and mutual struggle that draws people into fandom. These are “our” Red Sox—even if they’re owned by an elite minority and cause the common fan to make financial sacrifices—and so we root for them.

All things change with time, and likewise rooting for the laundry helps to mark time’s inexorable passage as players come and go. Hell, even the sport changes as rules are updated and instant replay is put in place. This is not your grandpa’s baseball.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Mar 23, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like that.

I’m a sailor and I worked one year on a traditional wooden schooner built in 1922 and sailed every year since. Like the boat in the analogy almost every part of her had been replaced. There were maybe a handful of planks left from the original. But the ship was the same. Her lines were the same, she still moved and swayed the same and we all knew that we were sailing her the same way every other sailor had for 80 years before us. We could see the repairs that the sailors before us had made, sometimes with duct tape and chewing gum (literally). But it was those shared experiences that made the boat special. Something anyone who had been on her could share. Just like every Sox fan in the world (well, not the bandwagoneers).

This is the boat by the way. So sexy.

by BTLove on Mar 23, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Native sons

To take Ardesman’s philosophies to another logical conclusion, only players from Boston and its environs should be allowed to play for the Red Sox.

by gbvinaz2 on Mar 24, 2009 2:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Then, we'd be in a heap of trouble.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Mar 25, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will be rooting for the Wichita Star...

when the Boston Globe collapses financially. If Sam Aardesma’s article rings true, then shouldn’t I place my journalism loyalties into the popular, stable environs too?

by Beerabelli on Mar 26, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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