2009 World Baseball Classic: Good Idea or Looming Disaster?
by 0157H7 on Mar 2, 2009 12:36 PM EST
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The second World Baseball Classic begins in three days, and our beloved Red Sox are well-represented in the tournament. 15 players from the organization are attending, tied for most in MLB (with the Mets). Notable attendees include Pedroia, Youkilis, Bay, Ortiz, and Matsuzaka, (see full list here). In other words, one of our best pitchers and a good deal of the lineup is participating in the WBC.
As pointed out by Adam Kilgore in the Boston Globe, the remaining Spring Training games will at most feature five regular starters: Jed Lowrie, J.D. Drew, Jacoby Ellsbury, Julio Lugo and Jason Varitek.* MLB has a rule that spring games should start with at least four major leaguers in the lineup, and the Sox are unlikely to be able to satisfy that requirement.
I have mixed feelings about the WBC. Mostly, I think it's a great idea. For baseball to grow, it needs to be promoted around the world. With more countries participating, the level of play will rise and the sport will be better for it. Also, the games themselves should prove entertaining to watch.
On the other hand, playing games that matter early in Spring Training always incurs the risk of injury. Back in the inaugural WBC, Mike Timlin pitched three games before coming down with a tired arm, and he had a poor regular season that year (4.36 ERA, 4.40 FIP). This article discusses other examples, such as Bartolo Colon, who pitched the second-most innings of participants (14) and proceeded to miss most of 2006 to injury. Thankfully none of our real injury risk pitchers (Smoltz, Penny, Saito) are participating, but the possibility of anything happening to Daisuke is troubling.
Another issue is the effect on Spring Training. I doubt MLB will sanction the Sox for not fielding the required four major leaguers in every game. Seeing more of Lars Anderson can't hurt, but the ST games are going to be less fun to watch without familiar faces like Youk, Pedroia and Papi.
So what do you think about the WBC? Are you excited? Worried? Angry? Leave your thoughts in the comments, and don't miss the poll.
*I'm guessing the WBC has a quota on the number of players whose names begin with "J."
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Daisuke Matusaka
pitching in the Classic worries me the most. We’ve seen this guy is still adjusting to a full Major League season (which has yet to do). Something like this Classic offers nothing but negatives for the Sox pitchers, particularly him.
No wonder Johnson couldn’t get U.S. pitchers to participate in this thing – it’s too dangerous this time of the year. MLB hurlers are not ready for this much work this soon.
by ccthemovieman on Mar 2, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Matsuzaka worries me, period
Injuries + his tendencies to walk the ballpark + lucky BABIP = potentially dodgy 2009 season
However, I don’t think Matsuzaka’s problems would be fixed by being in camp instead of hanging out in the WBC; it’s just that various Japanese teams and other world squads will be beating him up in ST instead of the Twins, Orioles, etc.
by morineko on Mar 3, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s evidence his BABIP isn’t lucky. He is different from most MLB pitchers in that he NEVER gives in and throws anything over the middle of the plate. He’d rather walk batters than give them anything to hit. So when they do make contact it’s usually weak.
by Toe Nash on Mar 3, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll grant you that via observation of him, but I would definitely give it another season to make sure that is indeed what he’s doing in MLB. I hope it works in the long-term, but it’s definitely not a strategy I’d want any of the other pitchers trying to repeat.
by morineko on Mar 3, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Matsuzaka's BABIP
Yep, Dice-K nibbles. That’s one of the reasons that he didn’t go deep in games in 2008. In his rookie year, he averaged 6.40 IP/GS. Last year, he didn’t even average 6 innings per start (5.78 IP/GS). The latter number is awful for a top-of-the-rotation-starter, and puts enormous stress on the Sox’ pen.
Whether or not there’s method to Dice-K’s lack of control, we’ll have to wait and see. As for his BABIP, here’s the breakdown:
2007:
v. LHB – .295
v. RHB – .306
2008:
v. LHB – .286
v. RHB – .234
Time will tell, but I think one could make a good argument that Matsuzaka was lucky last year (especially against righties).
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Mar 3, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its hard to make any conclusions about Dice-K; he is such a unique pitcher. Whether lucky or not though, you are right that he has to start going deeper into games. We have a strong bullpen, so I’m sure he’ll rack up the win totals again, but in order to become a true top starter he will have to show some ability to limit the walks, keep the pitch count down, and not rely on the pen.
by BTLove on Mar 3, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
About the Major Leaguer Rule
I’m sure the Redsox can play bench players, you never mentioned the likes of Kotsay and Wilkerson, etc.. but either way, I think your right in assuming we will not be punished by the MLB
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by sox-inda-south on Mar 2, 2009 4:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Other: Hey, that’s the acronym for my username!
But seriously, though, I voted for “I think it’s an interesting premise, but I don’t like how it affects the team.”
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Mar 2, 2009 5:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Pro-WBC
I absolutely love this thing. I just wish there was a way for all the players to be available.
Its time, just like in Bejing, for the US to show everyone that this is our game, we invented it, we are the best at it.
I love this so much I actually cheer for Derek Jeter….I cant believe I just wrote that.
As for Dice-K, the guy throws so many pitches I really doubt this will effect him much. Its not like the Sox weren’t going to sit him during the season anyways.
by SoxAcumen on Mar 2, 2009 6:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I actually cheer for Derek Jeter
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by Chemmy on Mar 3, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Weird, it ate my comment after the quote. Anyhow, that’s just gross.
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by Chemmy on Mar 3, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
USA before Red Sox…Sorry man. Its about pride.
by SoxAcumen on Mar 3, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Plus he had a hit vs. the MFY today. Hate them more than him.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Mar 3, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Okajima is not participating.
Ramirez is not participating.
That SoSH post is from back in January, before the final rosters were announced.
by Texas Gal on Mar 2, 2009 11:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for pointing that out.
Corrections will be added, and I’ll change the link.
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by 0157H7 on Mar 3, 2009 2:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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