Yankees' Alex Rodriguez tests positive for steroids
Sports Illustrated has reported that Alex Rodriguez tested positive for steroids in 2003. The full details have yet to come to light, but Alex Rodiguez's name appeared on a list of 104 players who tested positive for performance enhancers in a 2003 baseball survey.
A-Rod won the HR crown and the was the MVP in 2003, his last season with the Texas Rangers before being trading to the New York Yankees.
Neither A-Rod nor MLBPA head Donald Fehr would comment on the report.
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Well, if they get him off the juice for 2009, he may not be very good…It’s all making sense now, the A-Fraud book, Yankees signing Mark Teixeira-if A-Rod is not good then they’ll need all they can get from him. Well, A-rod’s next visit to Fenway will be very entertaining!
"We're not going to give up," It doesn't happen, so who cares? There's always next year. It's not like it's the end of the world."
+1
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
I'm going to respond to this thread rather than the previous one, solely because it's more detailed.
If Rodriguez’s lawyers go after the feds for leaking this, he is going to be one of the most hated players in history. He’s already been caught, and if he starts complaining that it was supposed to be anonymous, he’s going to look like an ass.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
Also, I wonder if Selig kept him from coming to the Sox because they knew he had tested positive.
Maybe he thought that the MFY would be able to withstand the hit if it ever became public.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
Yankees suck
They might sign how many FA they want, but they’re still the Yankees.
"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"
Slightly OT.
But still true. Remember that they got AARP-rod through trade though. They signed him the second time around as a FA.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
Oh yeah
And they got A-Rod through trade because the Rangers were swimming in money and winning everything.
Those kind of trades are basically FA signings. Same thing with Abreu.
"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"
by MerryGoByeBye on Feb 7, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
I for one am shocked.
SHOCKED, I say.
I can’t believe Sox Devil would so brazenly hijack Allen’s post.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Feb 7, 2009 1:14 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
Big deal
I’m sure there are quite a few players that tested positive. I just hope this report upsets Slappy’s fragile psyche and he has an off year.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
this could destroy a-rod’s career. Look at sammy sosa or raphael palmiero, these allegations hurt, and if theyr true it also severely damages a-rods shelf life as a player.
Sosa and Palmiero
Had their steroid scandals come when they were already declining as players.
by Gnick on Feb 7, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Joel Sherman agrees with you.
From the NY Post.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Feb 7, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Terrible news for baseball. No prospect of an untainted HR record, for a starter.
"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"
Sure there is:

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
Albert Pujols?
I mean, he didn’t juice up, did he? And he’s a far nicer guy than Gay-Rod.
"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"
by MerryGoByeBye on Feb 7, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
This is true.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
Manny
If he plays until he’s 45 like he has said he wants to then you never know.
by Gnick on Feb 7, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
He's gonna hit another 240ish?
I guess it’s possible, but if he can’t get a job now, how will he get one when he’s 45?
I want Barry....
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
I'd take him too.
Say if Papi has another pop in his wrist during ST or the WBC (is he in the WBC), I’d sign Bonds in a heartbeat.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
Word
"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"
by MerryGoByeBye on Feb 8, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
even with the trial?
I don’t mind all the steroids shit, but a player who is being tried for a felony might be a little more than a distraction.
Oh ya
So either he’ll be ready to join a team in mid-late March, or he’ll be in jail.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
I just don't give too much thought to records.
Helps keep an objective view. He possibly got overpayed for achievements that were reached by cheating – that’s what makes me mad about PEDs, not the record breaking.
One things for sure. If a-rod hits less than 30 HR’s this year the new york media will have a-rods head on a platter.
somehow I think that their pursuit of mark Teixeira and these allegations are not unconnected. They knew sooner or later something like this would happen, and once A-Roid is off the juice, well…Things could get very ugly this season, like TO ugly. Theo was right not to heavily pursue him last offseason, and maybe Manny leaving was a blessing in disguise. Egotistic superstars do not win championships.
"We're not going to give up," It doesn't happen, so who cares? There's always next year. It's not like it's the end of the world."
Manny did win 2 for us, not so long ago
Just sayin…
"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"
by MerryGoByeBye on Feb 7, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
There's no evidence
that Rodriguez was on Steroids after that 2003 test. He may have been off them for the past 5 years.
With or without parsely?
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
I hate to say this
But I think I am going to completely refrain from bashing ARod until I know who the other 100+ names tested positive on that list are.
Steroids are a horrible blight on the sport but hypothetically if you blast ARod and Manny or Nomar or Pedro is on the list as well, what then?
I don’t like the steroid problem is sports, but I want to reserve judgment until I know all the names. It is hard to hate on Arod if Pujols is on roids as well. It will tarnish there long term image and there legacy, but in the here and now, until I have all the names, I am not opening Pandora’s Box.
I came to the realization a long time ago that they all did it.
Its just part of the era and I don’t care. I know a huge number of players were using steroids and it helped their stats. Its unfortunate for the guys that didn’t; but we will never know for sure who did and who did not.
So, let’s ell remember the great games that we watched when the Sox beat the A-Rod Yanks and lets remember how we felt at those moments. Lets remember Tek knocking A-Rod in the face; I don’t think the roids affected that. Let’s be thankful that we didn’t end up with A-Rod; but had to keep Manny instead, an event I will never be angry with. But you know what, A-Rod is a great player either way. We cannot rewrite history; the man played baseball better than everybody else for a long time. I just don’t care why.
Hey Ecoli
seems more and more people are reading your book-see:
http://www.pinstripealley.com/2009/2/7/752706/more-arod-manny-more-than#comments
the CAPS, Jeter >>>ARod, Sux….It’s all there!
by Buzzy on Feb 8, 2009 9:05 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd.
And Ecoli, get that d’d book on amazon already.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
Nice
Rec’d.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Feb 8, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
My favorite is
this one:
" GREAT IDEA. SIGN MANNY FOR DAMAGE CONTROL.
HOW ABOUT I POUND MY THUMB WITH A HAMMER BECAUSE I HAVE A HEADACHE. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. MANNY WILL BE A DODGER FOR 2 YEARS VERY SOON."
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
I don't know what to make of all this.
Like articles suggesting Arod’s HOF chances are now shot.
In my mind, he’s a first ballot guy, even with the steroid stain on his record. Same with Bonds and Clemens. Sure, they’re total turds as people, but they’re still among the dominant players of the era – an era where seemingly everyone was cheating. I think MLB should keep up with the stringent testing, to try t keep the game as clean as possible. But I think we should get these guys into the HOF and put the whole PED affair behind us. I don’t want to spend the rest of my life talking about these guys the same way we discuss Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe, etc.
Not that I’m not going to taunt the crap out of A-Roid the next time I see him…
Manny ain't the only bad man.
I actually agree with this. History is History, you can’t change it, you can only learn from it. There has been more then once that someone had a disadvantage and MLB has adjusted to combat this. In the beginning there were probably blacks that would be in record books, but they had a huge disadvantage in being discriminated against. It was a terrible time and we have corrected that, but doesn’t mean you question everyone from that era because maybe they weren’t the best. During the dead ball era pitchers had a huge advantage. They have corrected that as well with no longer using the same ball through a entire game, and stop allowing spit balls, but doesn’t mean we should asterix all the pitchers from that era.
And now, we have been through an era where a lot of MLB was enhancing their performace through illegal drugs. We are headed in the right direction of regulating this and correcting it, but what happened happened, we can’t change the past. If steriod use was as rampant as many expect, and you try taking out everyone who used , then you might as well not include the whole era in the records book, because whose to say that with pitchers and hitters using, that they didn’t just cancel each other out? How do you judge how good a mediocre pitcher was if he was clean and going against juiced hitters daily? Who becomes the moral judge that decides what stats we should change and what stats should be discredited? If we’re going to leave players out because they had an unfair advantage, why not go through the entire HOF and kick people out who had an unfair advantage?
To me, the HOF is like a museum for baseball. We have bad events in museums all the time because even though we are ashamed as humans to have had them happen, the fact is that they still happened. We can talk about how spit balls were unfair, and be ashamed that we ever treated other ethnics different and excluded them, and talk about what a a-hole Cobb was, or talk about how much better Ted William’s career numbers would have been if he never had gone off to war twice, or how Bonds A-Rod and Clemens wouldn’t have been as dominant without steroids, but all these things happened, and there is no way to change that. So you want to exclude players who juiced because it gave them an unfair advantage? Well then you tell me, where do you stop? Do you re-look at Deadball era pitchers? Do you give extra consideration to those whose careers suffered from having to go to war? Why not just close the entire HOF from future inductees, because players today have an unfair advantage compared to past players with all the advancement in technology and science that helps player perform at a higher level
Yes, I wish MLB never let steroids get out of control, and yes I will think less of any player who we know used them, but the HOF is just as much to look back at the history or baseball as it is to acknowledge the feats of past player, there is a reason that it houses a museum that chronicles the history of MLB as well as inductees
Schilling and Casey weigh in.
Here.
“I’d be all for the 104 positives being named, and the game moving on if that is at all possible,” former Boston ace Curt Schilling wrote on his blog Sunday.
“In my opinion, if you don’t do that, then the other 600-700 players are going to be guilty by association, forever,” he wrote. “It appears that not only was it 104, but three of the greatest of our, or any, generation appear to be on top of this list.”
Meanwhile, one recently retired player wanted to know how Rodriguez’s name got out. Sean Casey, who spent last season with the Red Sox, said he felt violated by the leak.
“A little bit, because it was supposed to be a survey test and those results were supposed to be confidential,” he said. “The only reason we opened up the collective bargaining agreement was on those terms.”
Manny ain't the only bad man.

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