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The Red Sox catching situation in 2009

Important note: Wakefield is not going to be a reliever ever again. Wakefield is not going to be a reliever ever again. Wakefield is not going to be a reliever ever again. Wakefield !=reliever. Wakefield + Reliever = not in same sentence. Never again. Never again. Never again. Have I made this point clear enough? His back, at this age, is best-suited to the predictable rigors that go along with being a starting pitcher. This is not news. Holy f. I've gone overboard.

So, our long national nightmare is over. Or something along those lines. I've finally digested the news that Varitek will be back with the Sox, and most likely getting the bulk of the playing time behind the plate barring another acquisition. But just how much does the "bulk" of the playing time consist of? It really depends on whom is made his backup.

Scenario 1: Josh Bard.

There are actually a couple of sub-scenarios here. One: Bard proves able to catch Wakefield despite previous results. Two: Bard somehow wins the backup job anyway despite being unable to catch Wake. Bard is probably the only player among the three possible backups that COULD push Tek into more of a straight platoon, especially if he can't catch Wake. If Tek has to catch Wake, the pressure will be on to lighten his overall workload, which could lead to an almost 50-50 split of playing time. If he's able to catch Wake, he will probably be given one additional starter to catch for (assuming an ideal 5-man rotation over the whole season. Yeah. I can f'n dream, right?), probably Brad Penny to begin with. So a 60-40 split. I don't know how much this will do, in the end, for Tek's hitting woes, but it should certainly do a good bit to keep both healthy. 

Scenario 2: George Kottaras.

Defensively, Kottaras is not a polished product by any means. He does, however, have experience catching knucklers and no minor league options remaining. The Sox will give him every opportunity to catch for Wake and Zink during Spring Training, and evaluate whether he could handle 25-30 big league starts catching the knuckleball. Kottaras's left-handed bat could be a minor asset in the bigs, with patience and power being his main positive qualities. Throwing runners out is never much of a concern with Wake anyway, so his shortcomings there aren't a big deal. The biggest shortcoming to Kottaras winning the backup job would be that he would get very sporadic playing time beyond Wake's starts. Varitek would probably get near 80% of the overall playing time and plate appearances. Decide for yourself whether that's a good thing or not. For me, it isn't.

Scenario 3: Dusty Brown.

Pretty much on the outside looking in, Brown would have to put on a serious show in Spring Training to be considered. That being said, let's look at the positives if he does. It would probably mean he won the Catch-a-Wake contest, and he's the most likely of all 4 entrants to keep the running game honest while doing so. He's also been with the organization long enough and has the defensive chops to catch another pitcher, especially if Buchholz is able to win a job. Thus, we'd again probably have a 60-40 arrangement, with the potential for more PT for Brown if he can hit ML pitching. But that's the question. Brown might be the least able of all 4 catchers, no matter what we might want to believe about his hitting abilities. If the Sox had faith in his ability to hit ML pitching, we probably wouldn't have heard as many stories about the Sox pursuing other teams' catching prospects. He's probably also going to get the least playing time in the Spring, so he'd really have to make those opportunities count.

So the question is, who wins?

 

Poll
Well?
1. You spoony Bard!
23 votes
2. The 'K' stands for Knuckleball.
29 votes
3. What can Brown do for you?
8 votes
4. Holy F, Theo, get us a prospect.
50 votes

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Catch-a-Wake

sounds like a fun contest.

Although you’ve got to admit, if you’re a typical catcher in MLB, you’re probably thinking: “WTF!? I’ve got to catch a knuckleball just to get a backup job?”’

That said, much as all of these guys seem like nice people, I kind of am leaning towards option #4.

by lone1c on Feb 6, 2009 8:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Throwing runners out is never much of a concern with Wake ...

Cash was excellent last year. He threw out 29.6% of potential base-stealers, despite catching Wake for much of the time. Tek, who never caught Wake, only threw out 22.2%.

Kottaras was not good throwing last year. He only threw out 18.8. He’ll probably be worse in the majors. Dusty Brown’s CS was 27%. Bard is awful at throwing out runners.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Feb 6, 2009 9:34 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good Point

As DD said, all of these guys suck at throwing out runners… but that didn’t seem to hurt the Sox all that much last year. Even when we played the speedy Angels in the playoffs, SB’s didn’t cost us the series.

That said, it’s been a long time since we had a cannon behiond the plate in Boston. I’d love to see them find a kid with a good arm and let Tek teach him how to prep for games, etc.

by bottomlinesox on Feb 6, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bard had a triceps injury, recently, IIRC.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Feb 6, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He was bad before the injury

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Feb 6, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure I have a stronger arm than Bard

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by MerryGoByeBye on Feb 6, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bard

Bard was spectacular in the preseason for us catching wake. The problem he had in the regular season was purely mental. I think the reason the sox re-signed him says that they have confidence in him catching the knuckle.

Look for Bard to catch the knuckle during spring training and if he plays well he will be the backup come opening day.

by drabidea on Feb 6, 2009 11:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Funny note on Kottaras, wasn’t he advertised as a defensive catcher with power hitting potential? What the hell happened with his defense, or was it false advertising? (or am I just mis-remembering?)

by Realistic on Feb 6, 2009 12:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I seem to remember good-stick, needs work behind at the plate.

Which still seems to be the case.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Feb 6, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Catcher-Pitcher matchups

I think last year Beckett and Wake were primarily caught by K Cash, while Tek caught everybody else. A similar setup could happen again with Bard catching Wake and Beckett. IIRC, Dice-K and Lester are Tek fans, as are just about everybody in the bullpen. I’ve gotta think that Smoltz wants to play with Varitek as well.

by Schulz on Feb 6, 2009 12:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Actually, Varitek caught every single game of Beckett’s in 2008.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/psplit.cgi?n1=beckejo02&year=2008#catch-catch

by Randy Booth on Feb 6, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ignore my below comment then.

I’d never scrolled down far enough on those pages to see that.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Feb 6, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting that Tek has the second highest total of games catching Wake, behind chicken parm.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/psplit.cgi?year=0&n1=wakefti01

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Feb 6, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Whoops

For some reason I though Cash caught him. Was cash anybody else’s primary catcher other than Wake?

by Schulz on Feb 7, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Beckett always pitched to Tek I thought.

Cash played in streaks last year, and without going through box scores, it’s hard to find who caught a pitcher for every game.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Feb 6, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I want to see Dusty Brown hitting well as the starting catcher

George Kottaras backing up, Bard released, and Tek on the DL. Unfortunately, we’re more likely to see a “healthy” Tek getting 80% of the games, batting .180, and failing to throw out runners while Brown and Kot ride the pine.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Feb 6, 2009 1:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

But if he's starting 80% of the games, that means he's got "value"

at least according to VORP.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Feb 6, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He's better than replacement, man

Remember, bad is good.

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by MerryGoByeBye on Feb 6, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If its Kottaras, I'd expect a pretty even platoon.

Varitek was actually productive last year from the right side with an .863 OPS and over his whole career he’s been better from the right side. So, I say give Tek the starts against LHP plus some more and give Kottaras, a left handed batter, the Wake starts as well as most starts against RHP.

by BTLove on Feb 6, 2009 4:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not going to get too excited about 95 AB

Tek had a .616 OPS v. lefties. From 2006-2008, Tek hit 256 AVG/.353OBP/.424 SLG (.777 OPS) v. LHP and .231 AVG/.329 OBP/.381 SLG (.710 OPS) v. RHP. That’s a much larger sample size, and shows that Tek is only marginally better from the right side. Since 2006, Josh Bard has hit .308 AVG/.376 OBP/.454 SLG (.830 OPS) v. lefties.

Since Kottaras is a left-handed hitter, he might be a bad platoon partner for Tek or Bard.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Feb 6, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Correction: Tek had a .616 OPS AS a left-handed hitter in '08

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Feb 6, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah. Tek is horrid from the left side, but actually passable from the right. So some kind of platoon is hopefully in order.

by BTLove on Feb 6, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, so do you guys expect Wake to be a reliever again or something?

by Gnick on Feb 6, 2009 5:12 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Hahaha.

Rec’d. Also, Gnick, I’m sure you’ve seen plenty of SP scenarios written by people where Wake just magically gets pushed to the pen. He’s more likely to “magically” retire or go on the DL with a general back ailment instead.

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by Allen Chace on Feb 7, 2009 2:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

have the Sox considered drafting some catchers?

Really—is there anyone in the org who is a legitimate catching prospect? I don’t know as much about the Sox minor league system as I would like. (Of course, there probably was…but he’s catching for Cleveland. Ooops!)

(The Brewers may or may not have spare catching prospects all over the place. The org certainly has a lot of catchers. On the other hand, the Brewers have no pitching.)

by morineko on Feb 6, 2009 5:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We have Luis Exposito

who had a real good year last year, but kinda out of no where and at is a few years out.

And Jason Kendall of the Brewers was one of the few catchers that was worse than Varitek last year, so you guys might want to call up one of those big time catching prospects.

by BTLove on Feb 6, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Brewers catchers

For some reason, I get the feeling that Ken Macha isn’t as attached to Mr Kendall as Ned Yost was. (Although the reasons for keeping him around are identical to the reasons for keeping Tek, aka “good with the pitchers.”)

Angel Salome is kind of the short, fat version of George Kottaras, except with probably a better bat at this point. I would not be surprised one bit to see him as a regular starter in the majors in 2009.

by morineko on Feb 6, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see it.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Feb 7, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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