Taking a closer look at Alex Rodriguez and steroids
Here's your news: Alex Rodriguez is a juicer.
Here's your old news: a lot of Major League Baseball players are juicers.
But bigger than both of those pieces of news is how this will effect baseball. We're talking about Alex Rodriguez -- the "poster boy" -- of the MLB. This guy was supposed to save baseball from the ugly steroid era. This guy was supposed smash all the records and then, at the end, say: "I was clean." It was supposed to revitalize baseball.
A-Rod was supposed to take baseball out of the shadows and back into the pure image that baseball had always been.
Nope. Not any more.
I don't even want to blame A-Rod for this. He said in his interview with Peter Gammons that he "felt an enormous amount of pressure. I felt like I had all the weight of the world on top of me." And he did. There's no denying that. In 2001, baseball was a game that coveted steroids in the locker room. A-Rod, with that "world" on his back, did what he thought he had to do to stay competitive. Was it stupid? Yes. Was it what he had to do to stay competitive? Yes.
A-Rod isn't totally off the hook, though (what, you think a Red Sox fan would take pity for a Yankee? HA!). The bottom line is that he took steroids. Period. End of sentence. It's not something that was forced upon him. It was all his and only his decision. He was a great baseball player before steroids but he decided to do something that was illegal and make himself even better.
Let's imagine that A-Rod goes to Texas and decides against using steroids. He'd most likely still be a very good player. The three Most Valueable Player awards, though, probably would not be sitting on his mantle at home. Maybe one, depending on the time period. So without steroids, how good would A-Rod be in comparison to the rest of the MLB? Top 15 I'd think. Top 20 at the worst. Could crack the top 10. Would he be the "poster boy" though? Not at all.
So A-Rod without the juice would mean less fame and less money. In comparison, that'd kind of suck for A-Rod. But A-Rod on the juice turns into an even uglier situation where he has tainted baseball.
This is just me personally spouting off, but I really don't think A-Rod is telling the complete truth. I'm going to guess he started using performance-enhancers in 1998. It would make sense. In 1996, his first full year, he hit .358 and hit 36 home runs. He finished second in MVP voting. In '97 though, numbers dropped: just 23 home runs in virtually the same amount of time.
But then comes 1998. The year for steroids. The year Mark McGwire hit 70 home runs. Well there's A-Rod in Seattle thinking to himself: "Hmm. How does this guy hit 70 home runs? The league figured me out last year. How can I be like this guy?" In comes the 'roids for '98. A-Rod hits 42 bombs that year. He wouldn't hit less than 40 until 2004, his first season as a Yankee. That is speculation, of course, but I really doubt that A-Rod only used for three seasons.
Now that A-Rod is tainted, baseball has taken its worst hit ever. Now, though, we just wait and see where it goes from here.
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Albert Pujols will be the new Jesus
Too bad because he’s actually a good guy.
"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"
by MerryGoByeBye on Feb 10, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hope I'm misunderstanding that.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Feb 10, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're not (even though I didn't mean he'll be in fact the new Jesus, and I think that's pretty obvious)

I’m going to hell.
"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"
by MerryGoByeBye on Feb 10, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
haha
I bet Jesus would have liked the village people.
by BTLove on Feb 11, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
It’s weird, but I think that too.
"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"
by MerryGoByeBye on Feb 11, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hah. Rec'd.
Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!
by BoSox415 on Feb 11, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What's the deal with going to hell?
I mean, how much worse can the devil be than Dr. Phil. Maybe we are in hell already.
"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"
by MerryGoByeBye on Feb 11, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's getting close.
I meant the YMCA pic. Very random.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Feb 12, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It is lovely, isn't it?
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by MerryGoByeBye on Feb 12, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, come on

At least this one or any other of this JesusLol series is pretty funny. Admit it.
"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"
by MerryGoByeBye on Feb 13, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That one is.
Only because I was obsessed with Lion King when I was younger. I watched it 10 times per day, and still covered my eyes when Mufasa died. Wait, did I say “was”?
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Feb 13, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Same here.
I always had to get my parents to fast-forward through the part where he was trampled (i still remember?)
Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!
by BoSox415 on Feb 14, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
his interview with Gammons was a joke, “It was a culture back then, I’m not really sure where I got them, I’m not sure what they were, I’m not sure who told me about them or who gave them to me, I might have gotten something from GNC….”—-Just more of the usual Scott Boras crap. You have to wonder whether he might have done some of the same stuff in 07, as he had declined before that and was top of the league that year…
"We're not going to give up," It doesn't happen, so who cares? There's always next year. It's not like it's the end of the world."
by revigik on Feb 10, 2009 3:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Whats the line from Boxing?
“I was lying yesterday, but today i am telling the truth”
Something like that.
A-Rod has zero credibility and nothing he says can be taking as truthful.
by SoxAcumen on Feb 10, 2009 3:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
couldn't disagree more
First, MerryGoByeBye, I don’t think A Rod is a good guy at all. Aside from what appears to be a personal life mess, he’s been the greediest of all baseball players. Opting out on the Yankees contract to resign to just a bit bigger, and the manner in which the news broke and how everything played out was pitiful. Like a lot of what this guy does aside from swinging the bat and playing solid defense.
I agree with you revigik that the interview was a joke. Remember the one A ROID gave before, I think it was NBC or something, after the Bonds/Clemens media roar where he denied using PEDs? Sure, he’s only admitting to this because he got caught. If it was such a weight why wouldn’t he have come clean before? Total BS.
The sad part, and this is where I disagree a bit with this post in general, is that I think A ROD still would have been the best player in the game. He wouldn’t have hit 57 home runs, but Pedroia didn’t even hit 20 and he won MVP. To say nothing that A ROD has consistently produced during the year (clutch and playoff performances not included). Unless A ROD used steroids his whole career, he was on track to be a hall of famer early in his career… Regarding having to do PEDs to compete because nearly everyone was doing juice… look at Pedro Martinez who dominated against everyone. Can only imagine what his numbers would be like if he had faced mere humans. Ok, that was way to long of a comment….
by nesblotter on Feb 10, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I meant that Pujols is a good guy
It’s too bad he’s goona be the next ‘savior’. I hate the guys the media adores (Brett Favre, LeBron James and the such).
"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"
by MerryGoByeBye on Feb 10, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh.
Ignore my above comment.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Feb 10, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Too late
You cost this blog a blasphemy.
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by MerryGoByeBye on Feb 10, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he's a bad guy, but not for the reasons you give...
You blame a guy for seeking, and getting, a $300 million deal? Would you rather the MFY keep that money? I just never understand this mindset that a player is “bad” if he seeks the most money possible in a way that is entirely within the rules of baseball. Tell you the truth, I don’t even blame a guy for using steroids back then. It wasn’t even explicitly against MLB rules until 2004. I blame MLB in general for turning a blind eye to this whole deal for so many years. They knew it was going on and they did nothing about it.
by BTLove on Feb 10, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm hoping
that all of the recent steroid outrage gives birth to a new kind of player. The Bonds, McGuire, Giambi prototype will be gone, and instead the Ramirez(Hanley), Upton, Pedroia, Braun, Sizemore types will be the best in the league and winning MVPs. I love the all-around guys more than the power-only players anyway.
by Schulz on Feb 10, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not convinced Hanley is clean. He’s hitting for a lot of power now, and I don’t remember him being a power prospect. Maybe that’s just my poor memory, though.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on Feb 11, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think if we're getting upset with A-Rod about his apology
then we’re losing sight of who his real peer group is in this. Is how A-Rod dealt with this better than what Bonds, Clemens, Giambi, Pettitte, McGwire, et al have done?
I think it is. It’s not to say he completely did the right thing; he didn’t. But with regard to his most appropriate comparison group at this time, he’s ridiculously honest. Giambi was ambiguous as f., Pettitte’s apology was, I think, insulting in its assumption of public trust in him, and Clemens, Bonds, and McGwire’s ongoing issues/suspicions/legal troubles/lack of entry into the HoF have been well-documented.
Or to put it in a way in which I can still be seen as a true hater of the MFYs, A-Rod has at least been the most forthright of a group of high-profile cheaters. I say that realizing that the time period he stated might not be entirely true, and that we don’t know everything about everyone. But he didn’t assume people were going to believe he just took them to “recover from injuries” as Pettitte tried to sell us, and didn’t try to deny everything in the face of insurmountable odds like a great number of the rest.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
by Allen Chace on Feb 10, 2009 3:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Eh
On the one hand, yeah, he apologized. On the other hand, “I don’t know where I got the illegal drugs, and I don’t know what illegal drugs I took, and I don’t remember any details of my illegal behavior” sounds like he’s still lying. If he was retired like Clemens, Bonds, and McGwire, I doubt we’d even hear this lame apology.
by RSNexile on Feb 10, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't buy it
I am glad A-rod came out and admitted/ “apologized” about it but I don’t like his approach. True, he did better than the others named, i agree, but i think his interview with Gammons was weak. For one thing, he chose to be interviewed by Peter Gammons who we all know as a baseball guy and will do anything to not ruin the reputation of the MLB anymore than it already has been. Gammons didn’t ask very pressing questions and allowed A-rod to dance around a lot of the questions, which i’m sure A-rod had banked on.
A-rod’s response about not knowing where he got it from and that everyone was doing it and all that was ridiculous…You weren’t a 1970s rocker that got pressured into doing lines off a coffee table because that’s what made you fit in….You knew exactly what you were doing. I understand the pressure of living up to the deal he just signed, but how about the pressure he felt when he first put on the pin stripes.
I don’t believe he only took steroids for 3 years…and he knows exactly who he got it from and who the first one to stab it into his orange butt was. I do believe he stopped taking it when he got to the MFY, and look at his career since then…mediocre. On steroids he was one of the greatest players in the game…now he’s not even the greatest player at his position.
Sorry that was so long. I’m just very opinionated on the subject.
by thedestroya1120 on Feb 11, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we're more or less of the same mind, then.
I just think a lot of people have been crucifying A-Rod who never did so with some of these other guys, and A-Rod did better than them, even if “better than them” still qualifies him for the title of awful apologist.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
by Allen Chace on Feb 12, 2009 5:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I'm a big fan of A-Rod, but...
…I do think this post is mostly idle, unfounded speculation.
“Let’s imagine that A-Rod goes to Texas and decides against using steroids. He’d most likely still be a very good player. The three Most Valueable Player awards, though, probably would not be sitting on his mantle at home. Maybe one, depending on the time period. So without steroids, how good would A-Rod be in comparison to the rest of the MLB? Top 15 I’d think. Top 20 at the worst. Could crack the top 10. Would he be the "poster boy” though? Not at all."
The affects of steroids on baseball performance are very little understood; yes, we can almost certainly say that steroids make one “better” at baseball, particularly at power-hitting, but we have no way of knowing how big this effect usually is, in part because it’s undoubtedly different for different people, in part because we don’t know for any player when they were and weren’t using steroids, and in part because it’s essentially impossible to point to statistics and separate out what is steroid-use and what is luck. So, in other words, I don’t think we can say A-Rod wouldn’t still most likely be the “poster child” for MLB, without relying heavily on conjecture.
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by Lefti on Feb 10, 2009 4:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
True. What I’m pointing out, though, is that if he was ‘roidless while everyone else was injecting themselves, he’s going to take a back seat in some form or another.
by Randy Booth on Feb 10, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True
Same thing happened when they found out that Merriman was on roids. Does it mean he cheated? Yes. Does it means he wasn’t one of the best defenders in the NFL? Not at all, I could do roids like it was water and I’d still not get even a single sack, let alone the 300 he got.
"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"
by MerryGoByeBye on Feb 10, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Somewhat OT
But Merriman bugs the F. out of me.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
by Allen Chace on Feb 11, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"
by MerryGoByeBye on Feb 11, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Me to, he’s cocky to a fault, his whole “lights out” dance is as obnoxious as hell, and the fact that him and LT whined when the Pats mockingly did the dance (so to him it’s okay to make a dance to make fun of the QB the just got sacked, but they making fun of the dance is considered low and classless? give me a break), and him claiming that his positive steroid use was because it “must have been in a tainted nutritional supplement”, even though they confirmed that it was definitely for steroid use and not a ‘supplement-type’ suspension (sure tainted supplements happen to have some banned stuff in them, but not steroids. And just listening to him talk and his comments, the guy is just an all around dick
by Realistic on Feb 11, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Merriman is a dick
But I could be wrong here, but didn’t the Pats make the dance on the Chargers logo? Or was it the Colts’? That was wrong, but whatever. Plus, it wasn’t the point. Merriman is an asshole, but he’s hands down one of the top 5 LBs in the game.
"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"
by MerryGoByeBye on Feb 11, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chargers IIRC.
When LT got ticked?
Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!
by BoSox415 on Feb 11, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its time to start boycotting SI !
I’m growing tired of "journalists" breaking ethical boundaries for their 60 seconds of fame.
They have responsibility for blowing the story—there were 104 players, not one that they were head hunting, A-Rod.
Now Sox fans, do you really think that none of the 103 players are Red Sox? How would you feel if Papi was singled out?
For me, the boundaries were broken when one of these bozo’s duped George Steinbrenner into an interview. Though the writer was with Conde Nast at the time, it is interesting to note that he was "trained" at SI!
The publishers, editors and senior managers bear responsibility for this head hunting as well.
Here are the best ways to get their attention as you stop financially supporting S.I. :
1-cancel your subscriptions or let them run out!
2-don’t buy their newsstand issues* and let them rot!
*OK-make one exception-the swimsuit issue :)
by NYYankeeRoadWarrior on Feb 11, 2009 8:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Eh.
It’s not like they went hunting for Arod – someone fed them the story. Or rather, four sources fed them the story.
Surely it’s possible Papi is on the list – same with Jeter – but it’s purely speculative.
Time we looked forward, not back.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Feb 11, 2009 8:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to hear the other 103.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on Feb 11, 2009 8:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey MFY fan
I’m so sick of MFY fans whining about how their team is being targeted. New York is a big media town, with sportswriters almost as vicious as those that cover the Sox. I don’t believe any sportswriters are out to get the MFY.
The Mitchell Report was based on information supplied by people who had access to the Mets’ and MFY clubhouses, which is why so many MFY players and former players were named. Nobody thinks the MFY are the only team with juiced players. Hey, Mo Vaughn and Manny Alexander, two former Sox players, were named by Mitchell. It’s a shame about Alexander. The ’roids and his overall suckatude will likely keep him out of the Hall.
As for SI, the reporter did nothing wrong. A-Rod’s juicing is news. He is one of the best players in the game, and made a very public denial on TV. (It’s not big news if Alex Cora was using ’roids). Selena Roberts heard about A-Rod failing the test from four sources. She is a reporter, so she wrote about it for SI. Her account has been confirmed by A-Rod himself. End of story.
I could care less about George Steinbrenner. I don’t feel sorry for him. This is the same guy that browbeat reporters, players, and managers for years. Does the name Howie Spira mean anything to you? Steinbrenner was twice suspended for improper conduct. Now he’s a great guy because he is old and feeble? I don’t buy that. Steinbrenner is fair game.
Hey, why don’t you rant about how ESPN favors the Sox. That hasn’t been beaten to death yet. On second thought, it has.
MFY fans are bipolar. They are arrogant as hell, pointing to their rings one moment. Other times, they whine about how everyone hates then and the media favors the Red Sox.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Feb 11, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Took the words right out of my mouth.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Feb 11, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ALL MEDIA DOES THIS
They’d rather create news. Or be the news.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Feb 11, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is Orza lying?
MLB: Evidence Orza tipped off A-Rod
For once, Alex Rodriguez cannot be happy that the hits keep coming. Rodriguez told ESPN on Monday that the time of his steroid use from 2001-03 was “pretty accurate;” however, a report in this week’s Sports Illustrated suggests that a top baseball official was concerned that the superstar third baseman may have still been using performance-enhancers as a Yankee. The report states three players told SI that Gene Orza, the chief operating officer of the Major League Baseball Players Association, alerted Rodriguez about an upcoming drug test in early September 2004, at the end of his first season with the Yankees. When Rodriguez was first approached by an SI reporter about the positive steroid test in 2003 at a Miami gym on Thursday, A-Rod did not respond when asked if Orza tipped him about the test. Orza was also approached by an SI reporter on Friday in New York City, saying, “I’m not interested in discussing this information with you.” On Monday, he told the New York Times, “It’s not true. Simple as that.” According to the Mitchell Report, Orza violated an agreement with MLB and tipped off a player (not named in the report) to an upcoming, supposedly random, drug test in September 2004. In a statement Saturday, the players association said “there was no improper tipping of players in 2004 about the timing of the drug tests.” One major league player, however, told SI that he was told by Orza in ‘04 that he would be tested on Sept. 24, "so make sure there’s nothing in your system."
New York Post
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on Feb 11, 2009 1:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Here's what I don't get about steroids.
OK, so he admitted using steroids and said that he hasn’t touched them since.
So? Does not taking them since extract all the steroids? Is it like Popeye’s spinach where after a while it just wears off?
I don’t get this at all. Ever since the steroids “scandal” has been brought to the surface, I’ve thought that it was like this: You take one dose and then get hoked on them. Or do players keep taking them because they need to? I realize that it’s probably just like a workout. You don’t just work out once in your life and are automatically strong, you have to have a routine. But is that the same for steroids? Somebody help me out here.
The rhythm is the bass and the bass is the treble
by DirtySouthSox on Feb 11, 2009 3:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is pretty funny.
At least Arod has a sense of humor about this.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Feb 11, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That video was from a long time ago.
Not the video on the link but the video inside the video. Where ARod is getting rubbed. I saw that a long time ago.
I think
The rhythm is the bass and the bass is the treble
by DirtySouthSox on Feb 12, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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