Report: Red Sox After Jason Bay, But Not Matt Holliday

by Randy Booth on Dec 8, 2009 3:29 PM EST in News Comment 41 comments

According to FanHouse's Ed Price, the Red Sox will be going after Jason Bay, but not his left field counterpart Matt Holliday:

#RedSox have told people if they don't get Jason Bay they will not spend on Matt Holliday. And word is #Mariners pushing on Bay

The offseason has just become very interesting if this is true. If the Red Sox don't get Bay or Holliday, who is the answer? Jeremy Hermida maybe? Maybe a trade? Maybe Mike Cameron in center field and Jacoby Ellsbury in left?

Boy, I sure do love the hot stove.

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for now

I have a feeling this story will change 50 times this week depending on who you hear it from

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by Jeff Clark on Dec 8, 2009 3:33 PM EST reply actions

I don't get this

Let’s not bother to try and get the best player available?

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Dec 8, 2009 3:33 PM EST reply actions

Personal opinion

I think that Theo & Co. think that he’s going to either a) not be able to play in the pressure zone of Boston or b) be a horrible teammate/have a negative effect on the clubhouse.

I think those are the two big things against Holliday.

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by Randy Booth on Dec 8, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions

never heard either of those things about him.

by wolf9309 on Dec 8, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions

Say what?

"That was a lot of fun… You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." Jeff Francoeur

by radiohix on Dec 8, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions

RE:

Playing in Boston and the ability to do so is something Theo & Co. factor in. It’s not a HUGE factor, but it plays a role. Maybe, specifically, with Holliday, it is a factor. Only Theo knows.

I’ve heard before, in passing, that Holliday isn’t a great clubhouse guy. The only guys that truly know are his teammates, though.

Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s just my gut feeling.

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by Randy Booth on Dec 8, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions

Agreed

I have heard the clubhouse rumors too and I think Theo likes how Bay fit right in immediately.

by drabidea on Dec 8, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions

I still think

That Cameron is the best idea out there. Our outfield defense would be ridiculous, and wouldn’t lose enough runs to really hurt, plus we’d probably be able to bring in Reddick next year.

I also think that this is probably posturing to counter Boras- now that the Yanks probably have no need for him, there’s very few teams left who are interested and can afford him if we’re out. I think we’re probably still in for Holliday.

by wolf9309 on Dec 8, 2009 3:36 PM EST reply actions

+1

"That was a lot of fun… You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." Jeff Francoeur

by radiohix on Dec 8, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions

this

by Schulz on Dec 8, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions

Today's making me a sad panda...

DFA Beckett

by South Coast Ghost on Dec 8, 2009 3:48 PM EST reply actions

Don't be sad, panda

Just a rumor.

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by Randy Booth on Dec 8, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions

but Granderson to the Yankees isn't...

by Buzzy on Dec 8, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions

Response time.....

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by sox-inda-south on Dec 8, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions

I would just much rather have the headline be reversed

Go for Holliday, and if that doesn’t work THEN you go for Cameron

DFA Beckett

by South Coast Ghost on Dec 8, 2009 4:16 PM EST reply actions

BLOGGY WANTS HOLLIDAY.

Why do you not hear this, Red Sox Baseball-Type People????

HOLLIDAY. MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

by Bloggy on Dec 8, 2009 4:17 PM EST reply actions

Guarantee:

Whichever team signs Holliday, the newspaper in that city (or multiple) will run this headline, depending when the signing goes down:

“Happy (Early) Holliday”

“Happy Holliday”

or, less likely

“Happy (Late) Holliday”

Put it in the bank.

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by Randy Booth on Dec 8, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Rec'd

"That was a lot of fun… You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." Jeff Francoeur

by radiohix on Dec 8, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions

Sad but true.

Maybe “Holliday Season”.

RED SOX LOOKING FORWARD TO A HOLLIDAY SEASON"

Guh. Newspaper people. Make me wanna barf.

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

by Bloggy on Dec 8, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions

I'd prefer HAPPY HALLADAY

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Dec 8, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions

Not me.

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

by Bloggy on Dec 8, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions

Dumb if it's true.

If you’re gonna overpay for one of them, you may as well overpay for the good one that will result in draft considerations coming back your way.

USG

by Ben Buchanan on Dec 8, 2009 4:48 PM EST reply actions

6 years

How do you have any idea if draft pick compensation will be around in 6+ seasons. There are already rumblings that this might be gone soon.

by TroyPatterson on Dec 8, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions

Bay would leave THIS YEAR

We’d be trading a 2nd rounder for a 1st rounder and a supp. pick.

USG

by Ben Buchanan on Dec 8, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions

bay to Ms

I’d trade Bay for Beltre and their 09 first round pick Dustin Ackley. Put Youk back at first and beltre at 3rd

by Capitashred on Dec 8, 2009 5:03 PM EST reply actions

I would also trade a player not on our roster for a player not on their roster and an actual prospect in their system

I’d say we would definitely come out ahead on that one

DFA Beckett

by South Coast Ghost on Dec 8, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Nah

We could make that awesome trade NEXT year after that prospect had one year of professional baseball!

"That was a lot of fun… You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." Jeff Francoeur

by radiohix on Dec 8, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions

Let's give the Mariners Pujols in exchange for Adrian Gonzalez and Hanley

Deal?

by wolf9309 on Dec 8, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions

Theo

may need to break out the gorilla suit before any blockbusters happen

by wdogg72 on Dec 8, 2009 6:16 PM EST reply actions

everyone knows the gorilla suit

I say this year, keep your eyes open for a chicken suit.

by wolf9309 on Dec 8, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions

terrible

Miguel Cabrera IS the solution to our problems.
Release Jason Varitek before ST is over !
Do not pay Jason Bay !!
Trade Buchholz !!!

by gizmosandy on Dec 8, 2009 7:06 PM EST reply actions

Agreed.

If it’s true. Which I doubt.

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

by Bloggy on Dec 8, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions

In Fact

I think it was yesterday Tito cautioned Sox fans to not take any rumors they hear over the hot stove season too seriously. Which I think is nice timing…

by wolf9309 on Dec 8, 2009 8:39 PM EST reply actions

Smoke screen to lower Hollidays price

by German Red Sox Fan on Dec 8, 2009 8:50 PM EST reply actions

Holliday is the guy unless we can get a guy like Adrian Gonz or Miguel Cab.

and then get a 2 year contract on Cameron or Damon short term.

Miguel Cabrera IS the solution to our problems.
Release Jason Varitek before ST is over !
Do not pay Jason Bay !!
Trade Buchholz !!!

by gizmosandy on Dec 9, 2009 7:37 AM EST reply actions

NO TO DAMON

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

by Bloggy on Dec 9, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions

He's a solid player

Miguel Cabrera IS the solution to our problems.
Release Jason Varitek before ST is over !
Do not pay Jason Bay !!
Trade Buchholz !!!

by gizmosandy on Dec 9, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions

no no no

1. He’s evil and hated and PR IS important for the team
2. please look at his Home vs Away Spilts for 2009- OPS .915 at home and .795 away (with actually a higher BA away)- ALL his power was due to Yankee stadium
3. His defense has looked pretty awful lately- especially his arm, which, with the monster, is probably the one thing it is important for a Fenway LF to have to get the wall balls in.

by wolf9309 on Dec 9, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions

I don't care if he's secretly Thor, Norse God of Thunder.

NO.
TO.
DAMON.

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

by Bloggy on Dec 9, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions

actually

If he was Thor, that’s the one thing that might change my mind.

by wolf9309 on Dec 9, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions

I don't like your backup plan

Damon is a no, no, no.

I wouldn’t give Cameron 2 years. Maybe 1 year with a decent team option. I realize he’s still playing great and in great shape, but we don’t know how long until Reddick is ready and we don’t want to be stuck with Cameron if he does get hurt… 37 is pretty old for a CF.

by wolf9309 on Dec 9, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions