Scutaro Worked Out for Boston Scout

It's looking more and more like this is going to happen, and if it does, it's going to be an overpay.

Seems like a big reason the Sox hadn't given him a big offer yet is because of the heel injury.

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Just think it's worth saying

That honestly, barring a Jed Lowrie resurgence, it seems unlikely that the Sox will realistically end up with a better player at shortstop than Scutaro. Even though we almost certainly will be overpaying a guy following a career year, he’s not actually a bad player as far as I’m concerned.

In fact (assuming he doesn’t have some reason to suspect a significant year-to-year decline in fielding for Scutaro), Bill James’ predictions should put him at right around $11 million in WAR even with a fair decline in offense.

I think we’re all kind of giving Scutaro a bad rap just because of the fact that we do feel there are more cost-effective options. And I’d agree that there are. But if we end up paying him 16-20/2, it’s far from the end of the world, especially since he COULD live up to last year’s performance.

Plus, if we do what many of us want and sign Holliday, the draft pick lost would only be a 2nd rounder.

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by Ben Buchanan on Dec 3, 2009 6:58 PM EST reply actions

I am saddened...

…to have to agree with you. Not because of you, but because I’d like more than Scutaro. However, he’s an upgrade over what we had (Green/Gonzo/One-Handed Jed), and is likely better-to-much-better than what’s available. Plus, he can play third and second, so at worst he’s versatile…

Plus, if we do what many of us want and sign Holliday, the draft pick lost would only be a 2nd rounder.

Meaning no Bay. So the likely tally would be + 2 first rounders, + 2 sandwich rounders, – 1 first rounder, – 1 second rounder. I don’t want to sign Holliday personally, but that’s a draft upgrade by any measure.

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Dec 3, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions

16/2 = about right. 20/2 = overpaying.

Somehow this feels like Lugo 2.0, but for two years we could handle it. Even if it doesn’t work out, there’s still the very small chance that Jed may turn out to be a fine and healthy player

by dsharp on Dec 3, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions

no

16/2 is way overpaying for a utility infielder who has had one (admittedly very) good year at the age of 34. I think any more than 10/2 is unreasonable

by wolf9309 on Dec 3, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions

This so fuckin' depressing

We’re spending all this money on a failure after failure at the SS position instead of signing prime time talent in the FA market (Tex or Martin Perez who was an IFA)
Meanwhile, Jed is in Toronto (!!!!) rehabbing.

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by bloodysock04 on Dec 3, 2009 7:02 PM EST reply actions

The Sox aren't exactly skimping in the IFA business.

Nor the draft.

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by Ben Buchanan on Dec 3, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions

Not to mention Tex was never gonna come here to begin with.

Unless we dramatically overpaid.

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by Ben Buchanan on Dec 3, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions

From a purely personal and subjective standpoint...

…it would have been worth the overpay to deliver the nut-punch to the Yanks, and to not have to listen to all this team of the decade talk.

After all, its not my money…

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Dec 3, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions

No

But the money effects how good your team is, and the Sox are on a budget whether we like it or not. Overpaying for Tex means underbidding on FA B, or not signing 9 of our top-10 draft picks (fuck yeah, Younginer!)

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by Ben Buchanan on Dec 3, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah.

I know, I know. I just wanna nut-punch the Yankees and not live in a world where Yankees fans have reasons not to kill themselves. It’s a dream I have…

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Dec 3, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions

Or not locking up players to team friendly extensions

As we did with Pedroia, Youk and Lester. Those were the key acquisitions last year.

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by 0157H7 on Dec 3, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions

But guys...

Nut-punches. Yankfans suicides.

Guys?

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Dec 3, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions

You want nut punches?

Take the hit this year, beat ’em in three straight ALCS down the line.

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by Ben Buchanan on Dec 3, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions

NUT

PUNCH

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

by Bloggy on Dec 3, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions

You're not even the same guy!!!

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by Ben Buchanan on Dec 3, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions

I know.

I just liked the nut-punch thread and wanted to feel like I belonged. :(

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

by Bloggy on Dec 3, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions

Yup.

Tex was never going to come here. I’ve got some inside info (a mutual friend of peanut-butter), and it was NY the whole time.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Dec 3, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions

ewwwww tell her she's gross

Release Jason Varitek before ST is over !
Do not pay Jason Bay !!
Trade Buchholz !!!

by gizmosandy on Dec 3, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions

Never met her.

Probably never will.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Dec 3, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions

I disagree

We’ve payed 11 millions to get rid of Renteria
We’re paying ~ 15 millions for Lugo
That’s dead money which could be spent else where (like overpaying for Tex).
And yes We’re not skimping in the IFA market.

by bloodysock04 on Dec 3, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions

I'm confused

What do you disagree with?

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by Ben Buchanan on Dec 3, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions

We didn't get rid of Lugo until after Tex had signed with the Yanks

So what does he have to do with it?

DFA Beckett

by South Coast Ghost on Dec 3, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions

As the days go by...

The more saddened I am by Marco Scutaro.

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by Randy Booth on Dec 3, 2009 7:05 PM EST reply actions

I agree with the anti-Scutaro comments, but it's funny

that he’s beyond any doubt an upgrade over A-Gonz, Green, or injured Jed. We shouldn’t be upset UNLESS the money spent for him prevents us from a more meaningful signing somewhere else (e.g. LF, 3B/1B, SP). I don’t see that it would.

by dsharp on Dec 3, 2009 7:26 PM EST reply actions