Is Jeremy Hermida on the Move?
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 16, 2009 1:09 PM EST
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Jeremy Hermida might be gone before playing a single game in a Red Sox uniform.
WEEI's Alex Speier reported that when the Red Sox traded for Hermida, they mentioned they were likely to trade him if they were to re-sign Jason Bay. While they will almost certainly not do that, the Cameron signing may well have created the same situation. Cameron is unlikely to be a platoon player, and Hermida's splits are not strong enough to warrant giving him time in the field over Cameron. And at a cost of $3 million, Hermida is an odd choice for a defenseless 4th outfielder.
Hermida will not bring a significant bounty, but there are teams that could use a young outfielder with potential. If the Sox do trade Hermida, they would likely have to look at free agency to replace him, as they will want to get Josh Reddick and eventually Ryan Kalish plenty of at bats in AAA. Darnell McDonald could also serve as a warm body in Fenway to avoid getting caught unaware in case of a sudden injury, but he's not good enough to slot in on any given day. A more ideal solution might be to sign a guy like Jerry Hairston Jr. While he's just as bad offensively, he would bring defensive versatility to the Sox' bench at an affordable price.
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I want Rocco back!
To zobrist; verb – to overlook the superiority of a person or object based on misleading sensory or conversational factors. e.g. "My teacher totally zobristed me on that paper – I’d included all the points he asked for but I didn’t drone on about Grover Cleveland enough. He’s totally biased towards Cleveland. What’s worse is that Danny Dukowski got an A, and his prose style is terrible. He’s a total Victorino." deadspy3 - Amazin' Avenue
If only, somehow...
…we could combine the Bubble Boy bubble technology with the Metrodome…….
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
I have a five-tool player in my pants.
Also, for anyone looking to go the interesting route...
Daniel Nava’s lines
Lancaster (2008): .341/.424/.523 (323 at bats)
Salem (2009): .339/.434/.495 (109 at bats)
Portland: .364/.479/.568 (118 at bats)
USG
I saw him play in Portland
I really liked what I saw.
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I didn't realize all his success came in just a full season's worth of at bats
Stll, pretty impressive to actually improve on Lancaster numbers when moving to Portland, SSS aside.
He’s gonna be very interesting to follow.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 16, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
A-Gon
11:36am: Interesting tweet from ESPN’s Jorge Arangure Jr. – he has a source close to Gonzalez who believes the player will be traded to Boston within the next ten days.
Idea
If Hermeda is gone, and we don’t want to use an internal option, what about Ryan Church? He was non-tendered I think. Very good, long history or decent defense in all outfield positions (9/10 UZR years in right, 4/5UZR years in LF, and worse in CF but can still play there). Combine that with a projected wOBA of 0.335 (same as Hermeda’s career number), and cheaper too, and he might be a good bench guy.
Church is probably a better backup than Hermida
but probably also about the same price, which is quite a bit for a backup OF either way. If we could get him cheap, absolutely. Word from the other day, though, was that the Sox were looking for a right-handed 4th OF- which makes sense since a lot of the time we have a 4th OF starting is when Drew is sitting, which is usually against lefties
4th OFers
Are a dime a dozen…..Criteria should be flexibility (play all 3 positions decently and maybe RF a little more on the Sox), Decent stick for pinch hitting and ability on the Sox to take pitches.
Where is this coming from?
Has everyone forgotten the fear of watching Wily Mo run down balls in left a couple years ago? It was terrifyingly awful to watch.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
I miss WMP.
I miss his lasers. Sign him for the cheap.
What is going on with the WMP support?
He’s a BAD PLAYER
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 16, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Must be Major League fans
Pedro Cerrano: Bats, they are sick. I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. I ask Jobu to come, take fear from bats. I offer him cigar, rum. He will come.
Eddie Harris: You know you might think about taking Jesus Christ as your savior instead of fooling around with all this stuff.
Roger Dorn: Shit, Harris.
Pedro Cerrano: Jesus, I like him very much, but he no help with curveball.
Eddie Harris: You trying to say Jesus Christ can’t hit a curveball?
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.
Are we being punk'd?
I mean, is it possible three people in the world actually think it’s a good idea to sign WMP?
Manny ain't the only bad man.
Rocco
I like the idea of Rocco, but I’m wary on the durability issue. Does anybody know who he progressed physically over the season? I’d expected him to have bumps due to trying to by in shape and whole season and his mitocondrai (sp) disease, bus has anyone analyzed how he worked out as a back up?
I Ryan Church would be a good fit, but wasn’t he starting for the Mets last year?
He was
traded to the Braves for (clear the throat) Francoeur and was non-tendered. I don’t think he had any injury.
sox fever
Jerry Hairston ? PLEASE ! Just What We Need , Another Old Player For Fill In . GET YOUNGER !
Who cares
How old our role players are?
That’s all they do is fill in and if they can provide a basic function such as defense it shouldn’t matter what their age is because we know what their specialty is and that is why we got them.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
I was really curious to see if Hermida could break out with the Sox
But he probably is much too expensive for a backup outfielder, reasonably.
I’m a little surprised we nontendered Anderson, his plus defense and cheapness seem ideal for a backup OF, and maybe replace him with Reddick partway through the year- Though I suppose they may be worried enough about a couple of outfielders health that they don’t want to risk having his bat in the lineup too often.
Brian Anderson looked like crap in the outfield.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 16, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't have thought
that appearances in parts of 21 games would be enough to say that a player known for great defense is going to suddenly be poor defensively. His bat certainly isn’t enough to merit a roster spot though.
I'd like to keep Hermida.
Yes, I wished he had a better glove, but I feel like this guy is going to hit, eventually. He strikes me as a Carlos Quentin or Carlos Pena, a “can’t miss” guy who just took awhile to put it together.
I feel like our OF defense is good enough that a defensive-minded 4th OF would almost seem redundant. We can afford to play Hermida every once in awhile, he’ll give our lineup a different look.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
I'd really like to see him play
but there are a couple issues.
1- he’s very expensive for a 4th OF. Which would probably be fine if we hadn’t just gone on a giant spending spree, but may not be in our best interests at the moment
2- He’s a lefty without particularly good L/R splits. Historicallly, our 4th OF gets the most work against lefties, when Drew sometimes takes a break, so most of the time he was playing, he would be hitting in his worse situation.
Is a Cameron/Hermida platoon best for the team? Still cheaper than Bay or Holliday, though both are really everday players and probably wouldn’t be too happy about it.
Overall, I really wanted to see Hermida get a shot here, but he’s probably not a fit at this point.
I'd like Hermida to get a shot
But I can’t really see it working out here. The guy has potential, and every years is a candidate for a fantasy sleeper, but he never fulfills the potential. Quentin and Pena never got regular playing team season after season till the Sox and Rays picked them up. Hermida has been a starter for I believe the last three seasons. I think it’s far more likely he’s just not going to be a great player.
I don't believe it will be a platoon
Cameron apparently has a clause in his contract that has him starting.
I also believe that makes more sense. I’m not worried about his splits against righties – this could be the best park for him to hit in for the way he hits so even if he continues to hit righties so much worse than lefties, he’ll probably be adequate – you can slide him down to 8th or 9th against righties and move him up against lefties. I just like the idea of his defense out there – assuming they DO put him in CF. Lackey is a fly ball pitcher coming to fenway – we need the best gloves out there behind him to at least catch everything that doesn’t go over the wall! :-D
yeah you're right about the platoon, was just a thought
What I don’t get is the flyball thing. Beckett’s FB numbers were much better than usual last year, but the two of them pretty much have the same exact career FB %. Lester is also right up there, and Dice-K’s is much higher.
interesting
Question – does a great defense help a flyball pitcher more/less than it helps a groundball pitcher? Does that depend on whether we are talking infield vs outfield defense?
i dunno
Dead center field at Fenway is as deep as anywhere – and oddly shaped in the corner. And the orientation sorta forces the CF to play it straightup. I gotta think a good CF helps out a flyball pitcher quite a bit. Just guessin’ though.
yeah you're probably right
it is a reallllly odd CF.
LF is the spot where good defense probably matters least (not that it doesn’t matter…) at Fenway.
Probably helps them out close to evenly, with a slight edge to GB pitchers because every GB is playable and some FBs are home runs. But that’s really just a guess.
Yup.
FB pitchers tend to give up many more HR’s than GB pitchers. Flyball pitchers also produce outs that are easy to convert. GB pitchers are kind of at the mercy of their infield defense.
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-Tug McGraw
How much would a guy like Marlon Byrd cost?
If not for anything else, that guy OWNED the Red Sox last year.
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