What Kind of Day Has it Been?
I woke up today at 4 in the morning. No good reason why other than that I'd uncharacteristically fallen asleep at 8 PM last night, but I had some time to kill before my 11 AM class. It was Monday, which meant it was time for me to get the Minor League update together. I did that on-off for a while, along with other random internet browsing, and eventually got it posted around 9 AM.
Looking around, I found out that the Mike Lowell trade had even more hitches, as his right thumb could require surgery. The status of the trade--and of 3rd base in 2010--seemed murkier than ever before. After signing Marco Scutaro on the 4th, the Red Sox had been remarkably quiet. Half the world seemed to think they were after Bay, the other half that they'd given up and moved on to Holliday, but there was nothing at all concrete. Anyways, I threw it up on the front page and went to class after mucking about for an hour.
At this point, the day had all the makings of a slow news day. Nothing was "in the works" that seemed likely to go down soon. In fact, it seemed like we might go quite a while before seeing any movement on any front.
And then came the storm.
It started when I noticed Randy had posted that John Lackey had taken a physical for the Red Sox. The next two hours were filled with speculation: had Lackey signed? Was this a ruse? A ploy? If he signed, for how much, and was that good?
At 3:30, I was back from class, and Randy had confirmation enough to put it on the front page. John Lackey, the #1 pitching free agent of the 2009-2010 offseason, had signed with the Boston Red Sox. The deal? 5 years, 85 million. The reaction? Mixed.
Knowing that Lackey had signed, though, had done nothing but fuel speculation. The Red Sox had 6 starters (all of whom seem set to start out of Spring Training), a hole at 3rd, and one very marketable young starter in Clay Buchholz. Was this a sign of things to come?
So far, we've seen nothing on that end. But that doesn't mean the Sox stopped there. No, within 2 hours, the Sox were in "serious talks" with center fielder Mike Cameron. 3 hours later, they had reached an agreement for 2 years and 15 million dollars.
In less than 12 hours, the Red Sox had made their mark on the postseason. They had set their outfield for the season, with a significant defensive improvement hopefully balancing out the loss of Jason Bay's bat. Whether Ellsbury will move to left or Cameron will take over there remains to be seen, but either way they've changed their defensive look for the better. More importantly, they bolstered their rotation to the point where it's a strong contender for the best in the MLB. The cherry on the top? Lackey was a potential candidate to fill holes for American League rival Yankees and Angels. The Yankees will now have to try and either make due with Joba and Hughes at #4 and #5--both of whom are significant question marks--and the Angels are in dire trouble with few solutions in sight.
Of course, nothing comes without consequences. The Red Sox are now spending at nearly Yankee levels. They've lost, in effect, a 2nd round pick by signing Lackey. The Blue Jays will now get that pick while the first rounder goes to the Angels. The Sox are still, ironically, without an answer to the question that started the day off, as 3rd base remains conspicuously vacant. Who knows whether the Sox can still afford signing Adrian Beltre? And is our offense good enough without any power bats on the left side of the field? And who on Earth is going to come out of the mess of humanity that is the Red Sox' bullpen? There's plenty still left to do.
Oh, yeah, and Roy Halladay went to the NL while Cliff Lee hits Seattle. The Jays? They got some of the young, cheap talent they needed all along, but it's going to be a long year for them.
So, Red Sox Nation, Over the Monster readers:
What kind of day has it been?
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I wasn’t a fan at first, but I’ve really come to like the Lackey acquisition. gives us flexibility in our discussions with Becks next year. Now, we don’t have to commit large to Becks and, if we get him off the books, I like the idea of shoring up our OF issues with Carl Crawford.
Also, West Wing reference?
What kind of day?
A really, really crazy, hectic and f——d up day.
That’s what.
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Obviously today has been disastrous
http://www.nesn.com/2009/12/alex-rodriguez-kate-hudson-split.html
I think we need a moment of silence.
+1
(sheds tear…)
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by Randy Booth on Dec 15, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
Whelp She's Ruined
Used to be hot, now ARod’s sloppy seconds? I’ll pass. RIP The hotness that was Kate Hudson.
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Dammit!
Can’t we have one nice day without something good happening to the Yankees?
Rock me, sexy Jesus...
by nuthinboutnuthin on Dec 15, 2009 2:49 AM EST up reply actions
Just got a little more crazy as the Cards
reportedly offered Holliday 8/127.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Boras wins again.
Most depressing thing I’ve heard this offseason.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 15, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Also
Can you believe this comes right after one of their biggest competitors in the market spends themselves out of the race? What a joke.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 15, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
I guess every team has to fall for the Boras “bid against yourself” trick once before smartening up.
by BigRedDog42 on Dec 15, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I thought the timing was weird.
Perhaps they sensed the Yanks were moving in and just wanted to blow anything out of the water and get it done quickly.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Dec 15, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
according to my math
thats about 16 million a year. i’m sure thats not what youre objecting to because thats about what we’re giving lackey. is it the years you don’t like?
EIGHT YEARS?!?!
I don’t even care about the money. EIGHT YEARS?!
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by Randy Booth on Dec 15, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, saw that
Who really thought of the Cards as legitimate threats to get Holliday after their reportedly weak first offer and then after sitting down wtith Boras during the meetings and not discussing Holliday? I know I didn’t.
But, hey, I’m all for it. Wonder how long of a contract they’ll have to offer Pujols now, though.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Dec 15, 2009 4:01 AM EST up reply actions
Haven't read the comments yet...
…so forgive me if I repeat anything, but…
My gut feeling is that Clay Buchholz’s time in Boston is coming to an end. There’s NO way that Theo is content with the lineup that we have now and the hole at 3B.
The contract offer to Chapman makes me think that they are going to try and fill the “young starting pitcher prospect” hole left by moving Buchholz by signing Aroldis. If they sign Chapman, they can feel better about moving such a highly touted young pitcher. I think they move Buchholz to San Diego for Adrian Gonzalez then move Youk to third to make room (if I had to guess a specific scenario playing out).
It looks as though the Red Sox have had this plan of action set in place for a while now, just ready for deployment in the event that Bay didn’t re-sign. It looks like they were better prepared than anyone gave them credit for.
I love what they accomplished today, and it just makes me that much more excited for the upcoming days.
WIth the addition of Lackey, we now have six starters, affording us the luxury of moving someone like Clay. I think that the people saying that Lackey was an impulse buy in response to the Bay situation are not giving Theo enough credit. From a big-picture standpoint, it looks like the acquisition is just a great move that gives us arguably the best rotation in the majors also giving us the option of using Buchholz as a appealing trade option to fill our need offensively…
I might be overthinking here, but then again, I’m not puting anything past Theo’s creative capacity at this point…
if we get adrian gonzalez
then this team will be SCARY good next year. but we could be great without him.
Would Chapman be close to the majors?
I really don’t know much about the guy, but my understanding is that he has some work to do before pitching in Boston.
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It should help answer that question.
But basically, you’re right, he would certainly require some seasoning at the minor-league level before he was given a shot in the majors. Especially noting the organization’s policy to give prospects, especially pitchers, ample time to get accustomed to the league. Not to mention the fact that we now have enough depth at the position following the Lackey signing to warrant a certain level of patience with someone like Chapman.
I agree with you ssense that we're moving Buch
but that will leave us 4.5 starters (assuming Wake will need significant DL time). I worry.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
WHAT KIND OF A DAY IT HAS BEEN
Liked your article – it was very interesting. There is one point that I disagree with, where you talked about consequences. I don’t think that we have, in essence, really lost our first and second round draft picks; in fact, there is the possibility that our draft will actually be improved.
Because we offered arbitration to Jason Bay, if we don’t sign him – and it looks pretty much like we won’t – depending upon who signs him, he is going to net us a number one draft pick plus a “sandwich pick”, which would likely work out better than our original 1st and 2nd round picks. We also will get another decent draft pick from the Atlanta Braves, because they signed Billy Wagner, whom we also offered arbitration to.
I know that not all of this happened in just one day, but, in essence, we lost Bay, Wagner, (and Gonzalez), and gained Lackey, Cameron, (and Scutaro), plus more and likely better draft picks. That sounds like a pretty good day to me!!
Unless the Mets sign Bay,
then we just get their second rounder.
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
Can't look at draft picks like that.
Just looking at our draft compared to a standard draft, yes, we’ve improved it. But there’s no questioning that we gave up a pick to make this deal happen. Look at things more-or-less in a vacuum. You can say signing Matt Holliday makes sense, because you’re not actually giving up a pick since it assures Jason Bay going elsewhere. But there’s no such consolation for signing a FA pitcher.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 15, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
What a day indeed
I missed all the drama yesterday. Just checked in this morning to see the Sox signed Lackey and Cameron.
I’ve always loved the Cameron idea and i think that was the smartest thing to do, given the market for Bay and Holliday. I don’t want any part of Bay for what the Mets offered and if the rumor is true the Cardinals are offering 8Y/128M for Holliday, he is way overpaid, 8 years seems completely unreal.
At first i was really excited to see we signed Lackey, cause the owners show the willingness to spend money big time to compete and thats good news indeed. But 5Y/85M? I feel like we overpaid quite a bit here like the Yankees did with Burnett. Its really a high risk move and could hurt us big time. I dont think he is a 17M per year pitcher, if you factor in risk of injuries and performance decline due to age.
If in the end that leads to Adrian Gonzalez we will be one of the favorites again.
by German Red Sox Fan on Dec 15, 2009 7:07 AM EST reply actions
Thoughts on the day
1)Cameron move is a good one. Not too expensive and obviously short term. The only drama will be if Ells will take to moving to LF, because that would make the team even stronger.
2)Lackey. Hmm, this is complicated. Of course he makes the team stronger in the short run. But the contract is bad enough that actually I have to say that this has made me doubt the FO a bit more than I have recently. Lets look at Lackey vs. Burnett:
Burnett:
07: 165 IP, 3.60 xFIP 2.6 WAR
08: 221 IP, 3.45 xFIP 5.5 WAR
09 : 207 IP, 4.29 xFIP, 3.1 WAR
Lackey:
07: 224 IP, 3.99 xFIP 5.6 WAR
08: 163 IP, 3.88 xFIP 2.0 WAR
09: 176 IP, 3.92 xFIP 3. 9 WAR
There is no rational way the one can argue that Burnett is really any worse than Lackey. One big knock against Burnett was health, but he has actually thrown more innings than Lackey over the last 3 years. Add to this the fact that Lackey is leaving a division/par where over 110 of his games are pitched under run neutral/run suppressing conditions against weaker lineups and going to a division with 3 small parks and stronger lineups and the fact that his peripherals are trending down (clearly) and you basically have the fact that we offered AJ’s contract to a guy who might well underperform AJ. Last year, I don’t think there was a rational person alive who thought AJ’s contract was a good one. Are we to think that this one is?
We really do have to criticize the FO for the fact that over 20 million dollars of our payroll is going to be paid to players who will not be in a Red Sox uniform next year. Who would be surprised if the last 2 years (or more) of this contract is “sunk cost”?
Agreed
I think the Sox will be very lucky to get three good years from Lackey.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Dec 15, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
What kind of day had it been, Bloggy?
Well, I tell ya.
It sucked.
I would imagine you could have picked that up from my various comments around the site involving much swearing and the desire for whiskey, but since you asked I figured I’d tell you.
Displeasure right across the board.
Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

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