Roy Halladay Traded To Phillies; Cliff Lee To Mariners
by Randy Booth on Dec 14, 2009 4:03 PM EST
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It is being reported that the Blue Jays have traded Roy Halladay to the Philadelphia Philies, who have in turn dealt Cliff Lee to the Mairners:
The Phillies are in agreement on a three-team trade with the Mariners and Blue Jays to acquire star pitcher Roy Halladay, SI.com has learned.
Sources say Halladay will agree to a contract extension to complete the deal.
It's likely Cliff Lee would wind up with the Mariners in the deal.
This is what you call a blockbuster. Halladay is out of the American League East now, which is quite nice for us Red Sox fans. However, the AL West gets Cliff Lee who has been pretty filthy the last couple of years, both in the AL and NL. With the Mariners' defense behind him, there is no doubt that Lee will be competing for a Cy Young by the end of the season.
American League, look out for the Mariners.
More details on the trade will hopefully be released soon.
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No they picked up his 9 million dollar option.
A bargin in my opinion.
"Hating the New York Yankees is as American as apple pie, unwed mothers and cheating on your income tax." -- Mike Royko
by sox-inda-south on Dec 14, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
And the Angels get fucked again today.
Awesome.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
The one place our fanbases can agree.
High-five?
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 14, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
High fives all around!
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Dec 14, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
I can't wait to go read Halos Heaven and see what those babies are saying about this.
"Hating the New York Yankees is as American as apple pie, unwed mothers and cheating on your income tax." -- Mike Royko
by sox-inda-south on Dec 14, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
NOT SO FAST
Heyman just said Lee is unconfirmed. Admitted he had a “quick trigger finger”.
Probably what’s going on. The Ms ARE in the deal, but again, it’s not confirmed that Cliff Lee is going to the Mariners.
USG
Ken Rosenthal dropped a hint this weekend about a Halladay/Lee trade..
I thought it was idiotic, now I guess I was wronged. I am curious what players the Mariners are giving up, if this trade goes through, which it may not because of Halladay’s contract extension.
Seriously
I filed that away in the “never ever ever” bin as well.
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Astonishing
Good for the teams involved, and now Halladay is off the table!
Building Fenway from the ground up - Virtual Fenway
This is a bad move for Philly
Cliff Lee was a stud last season.
But awesome that Dec. 14, 2009 = worst day in Angel history.
I am guessing..
The Phillies decided to try sign Lee to a contract extension, and it failed, so they are trying for this… if the Phillies pull off a contract extension to Halladay, then the ones on the hook are the Mariners, because what they are giving in return to rent Lee for a year.
If Lee has a good to decent year, you can guess the team that will sign him at the highest price. (MFY)
Phillies don't have much contract flexibility though....
Does a Halladay Extension differ that much from a Lee extension?
"Hating the New York Yankees is as American as apple pie, unwed mothers and cheating on your income tax." -- Mike Royko
by sox-inda-south on Dec 14, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know the Phillies financial balance sheet
They have become one of the big boys in the MLB by default because the Dodgers and Cubs are in such financial messes.. They had a players’ payroll of $111 mil for 2009. Detroit is also dropped out of the money race, and has to cut payroll. While the Mariners have a pretty big payroll and surprisingly Houston is over $100 million.
OH COME ON
I have a boundary layer final in 3 hours. Hitting F5 on mlbtr doesn’t qualify as studying.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
well
I’m happy for the M’s as my second favorite team. I hope Lee doesn’t decide he loves playing at Safeco enough to extend there, I want him at Fenway!
If you had their OF defense
and now Chone at 3b and Jack Wilson at short you would probably want to stay in Seattle.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Dec 14, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
As well as inside track on the division.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Dec 14, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I'm Still pissed that Guitterez didn't get a GG
"That was a lot of fun… You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." Jeff Francoeur
He is wicked.
Who else is even remotely as good defensively at CF?
Holly crap
If this holds true – Felix Hernandez and Cliff Lee in the same rotation????!!!
Ms are gonna be GOOOD
OR. Conspiracy Theory Time:
We’re totally bluffing on Lackey. We told Philly to make this three way trade making King Felix a little bit more expendable and now that we “have” Lackey they lower their demands. We trade them Mike Lowell (without granting them the ability to look at his thumb) and oneofthosebillionsofreliefpitcherswesignedearlierthisoffseason and get Felix Hernandez. Epic Sox win.
/End conspiracy theory time.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
If Lackey is good...
Then you don’t trade him, if he is bad, no team will take him for his contract, unless the Sox eat much of the cost..
If Lackey is good and he becomes a Sox, the person who is expendable is Beckett.
Sigh ... I dream of Felix in a Red Sox uniform ...
Does that seem creepy?
We will see about the Mariners...
I do think they have some key components there to beat the Angels for the AL West. They had good pitching, and the best bullpen in the AL. They need hitting to go from a 85 wins team to a 95-97 wins
A person who could either make their season or wreck it, is Milton Bradley. I don’t know if they are still in the hunt for Bay, given I think the Mets have the inside track…
If Morrow is good in 2010, the Mariners could be a very scary team.
The Mariners are looking very frightening
I like it, I’d be happy to see the angels crushed. They do need something more to spark their offense though. Figgins is great, but probably not enough by himself. I think Bay is a bad solution for Seattle- they don’t want to sacrifice the defense, not when they’re hoping to keep Felix around.
Halladay v Lee
I can’t imagine it would cost that much of a difference to sign Lee or Halladay to an extension. Lee had age on his side, but nowhere near the track record of Doc. Of course that goes both ways. Perhaps Lee just refused to sign an extension on principle knowing he can max his money with another good year.
Honestly
I don’t get, from the Phillies perspective, Why move a 6 WAR pitcher AND prospects to get a 7 WAR pitcher who’s older and will cost more money to extend?
"That was a lot of fun… You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." Jeff Francoeur
I doubt Halladay will cost more money really
as he’ll be older. They might be able to get him to agree to a less lengthy extension as well.
Or it could just be they talked with Lee and he wants to test FA and isn’t interested in an extension at this point.
Who are the Phillies giving up?
My guess that the Mariners and Phillies are giving up two prospects each. That is six prospects the Phillies are giving up for the deal from Cleveland and this still pending deal. The Mariners are still recovering from the Erik Bedard deal..
EVERYONE'S FORGETTING SOMETHING!!
TOR is in our division. Who the hell is TOR getting (that we’ll have to face a lot in the coming years)? Must be some pretty damn good talent going their way.
not forgetting it
just they haven’t said yet. There is some speculation here: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10523430/Sources:-Jays,-Phils-talk-Halladay-Lee-blockbuster
I would have loved to have seen Halladay in Boston.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Dec 14, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions
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