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Red Sox versus Yankees (Team of the Decade = 2000 to 2009) - Just the Numbers

Hi Fans,

 

I decided to create this post simply so that there is no more whining from either side of the so called Yankees - Red Sox rivalry.  The numbers listed below are facts and not opinions.

 

 

Yankees (2000 to 2009) = 965-651 (.597) - BEST RECORD IN BASEBALL - Edge Yankees by 45 Games

Red Sox (2000 to 2009) = 920-699 (.568) - SECOND BEST RECORD IN BASEBALL

 

Yankees (2000 to 2009) = Average Division Finish: 1.30 - Edge Yankees

Red Sox (2000 to 2009) = Average Division Finish - 2.00 (Finished ahead of the Yankees 2 seasons 07 & 08)

 

Yankees (2000 to 2009) = Post Season Appearances: 9 out of 10 seasons (90%) - Edge Yankees

Red Sox (2000 to 2009) = Post Season Appearances: 6 out of 10 Seasons (60%)

 

Yankees (2000 to 2009) = Division Championships: 8 out of 10 seasons (80%) - Edge Yankees

Red Sox (2000 to 2009) = Division Championships: 1 out of 10 Seasons (10%)

 

Yankees (2000 to 2009) = AL Pennants: 4 out of 10 seasons (40%) - Edge Yankees

Red Sox (2000 to 2009) = Al Pennants: 2 out of 10 Seasons (20%)

 

Yankees (2000 to 2009) = World Championships: 2 out of 10 seasons (20%) - Even

Red Sox (2000 to 2009) = World Championships: 2 out of 10 seasons (20%) - Even

 

Yankees (2000 to 2009) = Head to Head: 97-83 (.539) - Edge Yankees by 14 Games

Red Sox (2000 to 2009) = Head to Head: 83-97 (.461)

 

Yankees (2000 to 2009) = Head to Head Season Winner: 7-1-2 (7 series wins - 1 loss - 2 ties) - Edge Yankees

Red Sox (2000 to 2009) = Head to Head Season Winner: 1-7-2 (Winning Record versus the Yankees 1 season 2004)

 

Yankees (2000 to 2009) = 100 Win Seasons: 4 out of 10 Seasons (40%) - Edge Yankees (02, 03, 04 & 09)

Red Sox (2000 to 2009) = 100 Win Seasons: 0 out of 10 Seasons (00%)

 

Yankees (2000 to 2009) = Best Record in Baseball: 4 out of 10 Seasons (40%) - Edge Yankees (02, 03, 06 & 09)

Red Sox (2000 to 2009) = Best Record in Baseball: 1 out of 10 Seasons (10%) - (07)

 

Yankees (2000 to 2009) = Least Wins During the Decade: 87 - Edge Yankees (00)

Red Sox (2000 to 2009) = Least Wins During the Decade: 82 - (01)

 

Derek Jeter's 14 year career:

13 Post Seasons

7 AL Pennants

5 World Championships

 

Red Sox: The last 80 Years - 2 World Championships

 

How is this a rivalry?

 

In addition, to the numbers listed above the 2009 Yankees had the best record of any World Series winner this decade!!

 

Hats off to the New York Yankees the best team of the decade and the best team in the history of baseball!!

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Playoff series lost once leading by three games:
Yankees=1
Every other team in the history of MLB, NBA, NHL= 0

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Nov 9, 2009 2:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Horribly incorrect.

- The NFL does not use a “best of” series.
- The 1975 Islanders and 1942 Maple Leafs (in the Stanley Cup, no less) both came back from three game deficits to win a best of seven series.

"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt

by Daniel52 on Nov 9, 2009 4:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My apoligies—read the NBA as NFL.

The horribly is downgraded to an awfully.

"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt

by Daniel52 on Nov 9, 2009 4:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, the NHL sucks anyway.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Nov 9, 2009 5:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How is Captain Intangible's name at all relevant in this post?
Red Sox: The last 80 Years – 2 World Championships

Red Sox: The last 80 Years 5 years – 2 World Championships

Scram, troll.

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

by Bloggy on Nov 9, 2009 6:07 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

World series last 86 years:
YANKEES- 27
RED SOX-2
Number dont lie

"Yes we lost and yes we are upset. But like all Champs we will bounce back."
Osi umenyiora

by donnybaseball23 on Nov 11, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Study up on your grammar.

Don’t come back until you do.

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

by Bloggy on Nov 11, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Again.

World Series last 6 years:

Red Sox: 2
Yankees:27

Also, the 27 championships has never really fazed me. I have been alive for 5 of them, so the Yanks are still up in my lifetime, but why do I give a shit about who won in 1922?

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Nov 11, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

nice fantasy article about a non-existent decade...

…that apparently for you begins in 2000. For people who are more educated about calendars and such, however, we’ll continue to observe 2001-2010 as a “decade”. During which time, the Sox have 2 championships to NY’s one. Since every NY fan since 1920 loves to mention nothing but WORLD SERIES wins, we’ll use YOUR OWN barometer to judge which team is better so far in this decade:

2001-2010. Boston 2, New York 1. Boston wins.

There’s one more year left in this decade by the way.

Congratulations on being able to breathe a sigh of relief that your team finally won its first World Series this decade. I can’t imagine how much it must suck on the inside to never really enjoy a championship, since you are expected to win it every year, and every year you don’t is a failure.

Bandwagon teams. Yank$, Cowboys, Lakers. Never liked any of them. I’m going to sports heaven when I die.

Silly NY fans who aren’t even educated enough to read a calendar correctly, and write a silly self-congratulatory article based on a false calulation: priceless.

by payroll on Nov 9, 2009 8:13 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

?

is 1990 part of the 90"s decade? is 1980 part of the 80’s decade?
so what decade does 2000 belong? Dumba$$

"Yes we lost and yes we are upset. But like all Champs we will bounce back."
Osi umenyiora

by donnybaseball23 on Nov 11, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

You’re wrong. Just because you (a) like the Yankees; and (b) are able (I can only assume with great effort and substantial assistance) to type words on the Interwebs doesn’t mean your opinion has any bearing on an established fact.

Want a demonstration?:

The Boston Red Sox won the 2009 World Series.

See, no effect. But you stay classy, New York…

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Nov 11, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There was no year 0, so the first decade was years 1-10. That means each decade starts in years 11, 21, 2001, etc. Really though, I have never been interested in this whole “team of the decade” argument.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Nov 11, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I find it funny...

…that Neyer – definitely a “numbers” baseball guy – was discussing this on his ESPN Blog. The conversation, to the degree that it’s ever relevant, is appropriately had next year.

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Nov 13, 2009 2:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pythag

If you look by Pythagorean W-L something interesting comes up. The Yankees and Red Sox have nearly identical PWL for the decade. The difference is a mere 3 total wins over the entire 10 years (921 Yankees/919 Red Sox). Thus, in talent equated wins the 2 teams have been basically identical. One funny thing in looking over this data-the 2002 Red Sox did not even come close to making the playoffs, but were a much better team than the Yankees by Pythag. They had 101 wins (actually the Yankees have not had a 100 win Pythag season this decade, the Sox have had 2). That team scored 860 runs and gave up a slim 3.75 ER game behind awesome starting pitching of Martinez, Lowe and Wakefield.

by Buzzy on Nov 9, 2009 8:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Now divide by dollars spent

And time wasted by trolls…

by -USG- on Nov 9, 2009 10:43 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Someone's attempting to jack USG's username?

Good logic, but why?

@bs_uf15bosox9be 12 pieces of bacon, a Red Bull, and go get 'em; Learn to use SB Nation

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 13, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My rebuttal

Percentage of Yankees fans who can kiss my sweaty hairy ass = 100%

Once again, advantage Yankees. Pucker up.

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Nov 9, 2009 1:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Snore

Who cares.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Nov 9, 2009 1:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ha.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Nov 9, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In that case ...

How ’bout a rec instead?

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Nov 9, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes

It’s easy to forget this guy is a Yanks fan. ;)

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

by Bloggy on Nov 9, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

But if you guys don’t engage in ESPN’s “Team of the Decade” wank-fest, ESPN might have to perform actual news-gathering…

Can’t have that…

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Nov 9, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And this is why you're my favorite Yankee fan.

By about a mile.

As a side note, I have never in my life even seen a Sizzler.

by USG on Nov 9, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen one...

On Wilshire between 20th and 21st in Santa Monica. Across the street from The Gaslamp, featuring unconscious quasi-homeless people, dudes on meth and karaoke.

Can’t say Sizzler doesn’t know its clientele…

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Nov 9, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Haha! All of this, On Da Hop!

Funniest shit I’ve read in a while….now on to E-Coli’s response….this should be good :)

"Hating the New York Yankees is as American as apple pie, unwed mothers and cheating on your income tax." -- Mike Royko

by sox-inda-south on Nov 9, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This makes me want to go there: "and karaoke".

Meth + karaoke = PURE GOLD

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

by Bloggy on Nov 9, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bloggy = Andre Agassi?

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Nov 9, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Naw. I'm too Canadian.

I just know a good scene when I hear of it. Nothing but good can come from a cranker with a live mike and canned music.

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

by Bloggy on Nov 9, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've never heard of one, so...

@bs_uf15bosox9be 12 pieces of bacon, a Red Bull, and go get 'em; Learn to use SB Nation

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 13, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You guys were way too nice to this Yankee scumbag mutant troll a-hole.

by Jay on Nov 9, 2009 8:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Read E.Coli's rebuttal.

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

by Bloggy on Nov 9, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Still.

by Jay on Nov 9, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Meh.

Why get overly worked up over some pointless baiting post by some jagoff?

Galactus does as he pleases. Because Galactus is drunk.

by Bloggy on Nov 9, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he is the “statman” so I didn’t want to argue myself into a corner…

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Nov 10, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Red Sox vs Yankees

The Yankees would not even be considered a great team if it weren’t for the Red Sox and all of the history between them.

by Lbsurfettes on Nov 10, 2009 9:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

True

Yankees-Red Sox is a great rivalry right now. Yankees dominated the rivalry for the first 80 years, but right now? It’s been very even and very competitive this decade. Each team has 2 WS, and their head to heads are very close. It’s a great rivalry right now.

Have any of you Sox fans noticed how this rivalry seems to work every season? The Sox always seem to win early in the year, and the Yanks always win late in the year, and it always ends even. Every stinking season thats how it happens. Just wondering if anyone else noticed that.

by nyyrocks29 on Nov 10, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

simple economics

With no salary cap, the Yankees have and will continue to have the best team that money could/can buy each year.

Thus they should win more games each year.

Which means they will win their division and have home-field advantage most years.

Which increases their chance at success in the playoffs most years.

Prior to the introduction of the wildcard, the Red Sox are arguably the team most at a disadvantage due to the lack of a salary cap because spending the second most in baseball would only be good for … staying home in the fall. Lesser spending teams in other divisions at least had a chance at winning a division and getting into the playoffs.

Yes, once in the short-series world of the playoffs, any team can get hot or catch the breaks and win it all. However, a high payroll definitely helps there as well and the plain and simple fact is that the Yankees payroll has put them IN the playoffs more than anyone else.

With the introduction of the wildcard, the Sox have at least managed to get into the playoffs more often than before. And they have thus had more chances to succeed in the playoffs. And hence finally ending the curse.

However, they are still, like other teams in the AL East, at a huge disadvantage because of the economic inequities. Like other teams in the AL East, they have to play more games against the high-spending Yankees thus putting them at a win total disadvantage against other teams in other divisions competing for the wildcard. It took 9 years of having the wildcard in place before the Sox finally broke the curse.

Thus even though the Red Sox have managed to catch lightning in a bottle over this last decade and take advantage of at least being present in the playoffs, overall, this year reflects probably a resetting of economic realities. The Yankees outspent everyone, including the Red Sox, by a huge margin and the results were predictable.

These are simple, inescapable facts.

So long as there is no salary cap and no true revenue sharing in baseball, the Yankees will continue to dominate. And while I know a lot of Red Sox fans shudder at the thought that they might not be able to outspend say, Kansas City – the fact is that even as the second highest spender in baseball overall, the Red Sox are hurt most by the lack of a cap because they are in the same division as the Yankees because the Yankees are a huge regular-season barrier that the Sox have to get past or around in order to make the playoffs.

Look at the other sports that HAVE a cap: NFL, NBA, NHL – you don’t see extended NY dominance in those sports.

by mmmmm on Nov 11, 2009 1:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

To be fair, before there was a wild card, the Yanks weren’t spending an absurd amount. That has only happened over the last decade.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Nov 11, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

absurd amounts

are relative. What was absurd 30 years ago may not seem like a lot today – but it was then.

Steinbrenner took hold of the Yankees in 1973.

Up to that point, MLB was governed largely by the reserve clause used by owners to perpetually control the players.

The modern era of free agency began essentially with the Seitz decision in 1975.

Steinbrenner signed Reggie Jackson in 1977 for, I believe around $3 Million – the first of many ‘absurd’ free agent signings.

by mmmmm on Nov 11, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and let's don't forget

the many notable players that were essentially “sold” (for either cash or cheap trades as other owners – including Frazee of the Red Sox dumped expenses) to the Yankees during the reserve clause era that were used to build several of their dynasties. Everyone talks about Ruth being sold for $100K, but other notable acquisitions include Everett Scott, Carl Mays, Joe Dugan, Elmer Smith, etc. Those guys played key roles in the 1920s yankee teams.

Money has always dictated how this game goes.

by mmmmm on Nov 11, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't have the numbers for way back then.

But at least in the mid 90’s they spent barely more than everyone else. A few million. Now they almost double the next highest payrolls. There is a big difference.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Nov 11, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

sure there are exceptions to the trends

but historically the fact is the Yankees have been able and willing to spend more than other teams.

In the reserve clause era they would outright purchase players from other teams that needed money.

In the free agency era they can out bid other teams for free agents AND always afford to resign their own farm-developed players.

Certainly there have probably been seasons where they haven’t outspent other teams (or at least by anything significant). But over the course of time, the trend is clear.

And it is the long-term trend that is most relevant. Other teams may have a handful of years were everything comes together between farm-developed talent and the right injection of free agents. But what happens when the farm-developed talent matures and the youngsters are eligible for new contracts? Other teams can’t sustain the high budget for year after year after year. That is when those other teams lose their players and they sink back into oblivion. The Yankees and a few other teams are able to keep their best talent and remain competitive on an on-going basis.

by mmmmm on Nov 12, 2009 11:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs


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