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What role will Jeremy Hermida have with the Sox? (AP Photo/Lynne Sladky)

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What role will Jeremy Hermida have with the Sox? (AP Photo/Lynne Sladky)

After Tuesday's trade with the fabulous floundering fish, the Florida Marlins, the Red  Sox have a new outfielder, Jeremy Hermida. This unexpected deal raises the question of what role he'll have on the team.

Hermida was a forner top prospect who has largely disappointed in the bigs. His best year was without doubt 2007: .296 / .369 / .501 (.870 OPS), 18 HR, 32 doubles in 123 games. Unfortunately, Hermida's star has fallen significantly since then, along with his OPS, which was .729 in '08 and .740 this year. Defensively, Hermida is not impressive, with a career -26.7 UZR, mostly in right field. In left, his numbers aren't very impressive, and he's spent almost no time in center.

My initial thought was that the Sox wanted Hermida as a bench player / 4th outfielder or as a piece for a trade. But Theo's remarks yesterday suggest they see something more:

"Hermida is a player who hasn’t fulfilled his potential yet. We acquired him today for a reasonable cost to see if he might be able to fulfill that potential with us. He’s somebody who has positive indicators that future performance might be better than his past performance. His minor-league track record, his age, his draft pedigree, our scouting reports over the year indicate there’s a chance that he can turn into the player he was once thought to be."  Source

Maybe the Front Office thinks they can bottle lightning with Hermida. Theo has gambled on high ceiling position players before - think Wily Mo Pena or David Ortiz. Assuming Theo is high on Hermida, hopefully he's still looking at outfielders, because otherwise Hermida is going to be under a lot of pressure to replace Jason Bay's production. Holliday or Bay,or leaving a horse head in Andrew Friedman's bed and grabbing Crawford, should be the Red Sox plan for LF this year.

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Where do you see Jeremy Hermida ending up?
On the bench, as the 4th outfielder.
401 votes
On another team, after Theo pulls off the trade of the century.
294 votes
As the starting left fielder. He'll steal the job in the early season, and never let go.
91 votes
In the pen, after swine flu and Riverdancing incapacitates our relief corps.
78 votes

864 votes | Poll has closed

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First vote!

Swine ‘09. I say Hideki Okajima is the first to get it; it’s always the silent ones that die first.

by SBGonzalez on Nov 5, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Replacing Rocco

I like the RI kid and all, but gotta have someone who can be ready to play whenever called upon, and for long stretches of time when J.D. inevitably gets injured.

by jacques45 on Nov 5, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

“…when J.D. inevitably gets injured.”

Ya’ know, he kind of had a good season this year and wasn’t injured…

by Randy Booth on Nov 6, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Drew spent less time on the DL then Kevin Youkilis this year. Drew lost PA because he inexplicably sat v. lefties, while Baldelli played. Drew hit .272 AVG/.381 OBP/.482 SLG (.863 OPS) v. left-handed pitchers this year, compared to .290 AVG/.343 OBP/.441 SLG (.784 OPS) for Baldelli.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Nov 6, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Drew was probably playing against lefties

Who he hits well against. It’s quite possible that if he had faced the same pitchers that Baldelli did, his numbers would have been significantly worse.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Nov 6, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Doubtful

Drew has a better career OPS against LHP than Badelli’s numbers last year, and not so far from Baldelli’s career #’s against LHP.

by Buzzy on Nov 6, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I posted below right before this new thread popped up,

so I’ll do it again here.


Who knows, maybe we just grabbed the next Carlos Quentin. Or Carlos Pena. Sometimes these guys just develop late. Put him around some veteran hitters – Youk, Drew, Papi – and he could snap into it.

I wouldn’t bank on it, but in the grand scheme, $2 m is nothing.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Nov 5, 2009 11:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

kinda agree.

Theo must see something. The problem is that we would need to give the guy AB’s to reveal his true talent and I do not think that would be acceptable on this team.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Nov 6, 2009 4:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If we wind up with Bay or Holliday

then it’d probably take an injury to someone for him to get many at bats.

Though if we lose out on those guys, and we don’t swing a blockbuster, our best option to try rebuilding from the ground up. 2003, we bought in Millar, Papi and Giambi to be our 1b and DH. That worked out extraordinarily well. I wouldn’t be shocked if Theo goes for similarly unproven types with the potential to be long-term fixes.

We’ve got a bit of rebuilding to do.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Nov 6, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure rebuilding is the right word.

This team just won 95 games with negative contributions from the SS position, Dice-K and Varitek. We need to make a plan at SS and acquire more pitching depth. That, with a full season of Victor, should help keep this team in the playoffs. If we miss on Bay/Holliday, the team ought not to just pack it in. There is enough talent here to make a run at the World Series next season; no question.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Nov 6, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ya

“Retooling” may be more appropriate.

I’m not saying “pack it in,” but we’ve got to find some good players, and not only at LF and SS. Lowell, Papi and Drew are getting older. I’m sure Theo is trying to find guys who are not just stop-gaps but who have the potential to be significant contributors over the next few years. This might be a good off-seaon to pick up non-tenders/NT-candidates on the cheap.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Nov 6, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

RE:

I voted “as the starting left fielder” just to be different. That’d be kind of cool, actually. Unbelievable, but cool.

by Randy Booth on Nov 6, 2009 12:31 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

That could be cool because it might mean that Adrian is in the lineup.

You see, you spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball, and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. ~Jim Bouton, Ball Four, 1970

by BoldandBrash on Nov 6, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no I don't think so

That would just be wayyyy too many lefties- Ellsbury, Drew, Hermida, Gonzalez, Ortiz. Way too weak against lefty pitchers.

by wolf9309 on Nov 6, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Based on the current roster construction, yes. However, it could work if you kept Baldelli or Anderson and traded for Stephen Drew and Byrnes. Hermida and JD sit in favor of Byrnes and Anderson/Baldelli. Lowrie serves as utility infielder and platoon partner with Stephen.

Ellsbury (L), Pedroia®, Gonzo (L), Youk®, VMart (S), Ortiz (L), JD (L), Hermida (L), Stephen (L)
Ellsbury (L), Pedroia®, Gonzo (L), Youk®, VMart (S), Ortiz (L), Byrnes®, Baldelli/Anderson®, Lowrie®
Bench: Backup C, Lowell?

I would much rather have Bay or Holliday in LF 155 games a year, but if their asking price gets too high, it could be a more cost effective solution that will net two draft picks.

by mg050369 on Nov 6, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I can see stephen drew

Though I think he would be pretty expensive to get

but Byrnes the last few years hasn’t been hitting well enough to replace Drew (whose LH splits aren’t really that bad)- J.D. has been hitting much better against LHP and RHP than Byrnes. Unless there’s something about him I don’t know?

by wolf9309 on Nov 6, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You take on Byrnes $12M salary in ‘10 to signficantly lessen the prospects required to get Stephen. If the D-Backs still require a bounty in return or aren’t interested in a salary dump, the deal doesnt’ work.

JD has hit lefties better but his ’09 numbers are in line with Byrnes career numbers. You could play JD every day and make Anderson (if you kept him over Baldelli) a true 5th outfielder and Ellsbury backup.

by mg050369 on Nov 6, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't realize he made $12 million

eesh, yeah that would reduce Drew’s cost, but I can’t see us using up $12 million on him for pretty much no increased production. Maybe I’m wrong, but the last few years he hasn’t been performing near his career levels, and he’s at the age where I’m thinking that might not come back.

Also, it’s a very OF-heavy lineup. I’d be worried about IF health with a few of those people, unless a couple of the OF can play in the infield as well (we started 09 with 5 infielders, which is one less, and still that was because Kotsay was also out backup 1B) and it would only leave 10 spots for pitchers, which seems unlike the Red Sox to start the year.

by wolf9309 on Nov 6, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t understand how 5 outfielders would be a heavy OF lineup. The infield would have Lowrie to play all three positions, potentially Lowell and VMart who could also play 1B. Byrnes would be an expensive 4th outfielder but that’s the cost of acquiring Drew would would be an inexpensive SS and pairing him with an inexpensive alternative to Bay (Hermida).

As mentioned I would much prefer Bay or Holliday, however, Hermida, Drew and Gonzo makes the roster younger without significantly increasing the payroll.

by mg050369 on Nov 6, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah i think i misread you

I thought you were suggesting bringing back Baldelli AND Anderson. I can see some validity to that, though I don’t like that both the backup IF are medical question marks and there’s no one out there as a backup catcher that I would want to see playing everyday if Martinez had to make the switch to more 1B- although that would admittedly require both Gonzalez and Lowell being unable to play, at which point we might as well just say that fate is against us…

Frankly if we took Byrnes I think he’d be on the bench the whole year, and I can’t imagine that Theo would want to put the total of 17.5 million into one year of Stephen Drew, that seems a little absurd ($12 million for Byrnes, $5.5 for Drew)

by wolf9309 on Nov 6, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh

VMart would be 3rd on the depth chart behind Gonzo and Youk on that roster. Lowell and Lowrie wouldn’t be expected to play 150 games each. Byrnes is making $11M (my bad), Drew is arbitration eligbile (so we don’t know how much he’ll make) and won’t hit free agency until 2013.

by mg050369 on Nov 6, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

right

I acknowledged that vmart would be third on the depth. My real concern is we don’t have any infielders worth mentioning if someone does get hurt, so I think our infield depth in the majors is very important this year.

I misread (Again! I’m on a roll!) Drew’s contract. We don’t know how much he will make but guaranteed above $1.5 million, which would bring the total to $12.5 million next year for a shortstop who just posted his first positive UZR last year and has only had one solid full offensive year with a pretty low career OBP. It’s possible, and not a horrible option, I just can’t really see it happening.

I just think that since we’ll have either Lowell or Youk at 3rd (neither of whom has great range or defense at 3rd) and if we had Hermida half the time in LF (who is a terrible defender), we’d want a very solid defensive shortstop as an option or we’ll be losing games down the left side.

by wolf9309 on Nov 6, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget that Lowell( if he is still here) could DH against LHP.

You see, you spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball, and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. ~Jim Bouton, Ball Four, 1970

by BoldandBrash on Nov 6, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly

I want to resign Bay, and if we can’t get him reasonably I’d like to give Holliday like six years. But if neither of these are possible then I would not be too upset with a Reddick/Hermida platoon in LF.

by Gnick on Nov 6, 2009 2:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

More Moves to Come

The Sox will spend money but only at the right number of years and dollars. If Bay turned down 4/$60M and the Cardinals’ opening offer is 6/$96M, the Red Sox may be hedging their bets. Hermedia is a great value pick but a curious choice based on how their roster could shape up.

If Bay or Holliday is signed, he becomes a 4th outfielder. However, he can’t play CF and can’t platoon with lefty Drew. Therefore they need to carry someone like Baldelli who significantly cuts into his playing time.

If Bay or Holliday isn’t signed, Hermedia becomes the starting LF. Unless they make a run at a huge middle of the order bat (Gonzalez) he makes the offense weaker. If they go that route, maybe they try to acquire Stephen Drew and include Byrnes (as a salary dump to less the prospects heading west). Stephen patrols SS while JD, Ellsbury, Baldelli, Hermedia and Byrnes share outfield duties.

by mg050369 on Nov 6, 2009 9:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

so far I'm very very confused by this

I’m sure that Theo has a plan that will make sense in the end, but for now I can’t wrap my head around this.
-his defense is far too bad to serve as a bench OF
-his offense has not proved to be enough to replace Bay
  -and if that WAS the plan, we would have an all LH outfield and a very lefty-weighted lineup
-I could see wanting him as a 5th OF if we had spare roster spots but I’m not sure how we would, plus I feel like then his playing time would suffer enough that he wouldn’t be able to develop
-as far as trade value, he might be a part of a trade IF we paid the rest of his value while he’s under team control (I don’t think you’d send a guy like this to Petco though, so I doubt it’s a move trying to make THAT trade happen)

All I can think is maybe see if he shows better potential in spring training and then either find a way to get him to AAA (like a convenient injury) or if he really proves his is improving, use him as a 4th OF (or just dump him somewhere for even less value).

Maybe Theo thinks he has the skill-set and potential to replace Ortiz when he’s gone? Seems unlikely but he doesn’t seem to show a ton of potential beyond hitting.

I don’t know. I do really like this trade in one respect- I have no idea what they’re thinking so it keeps my mind occupied considering what the plan could be.

by wolf9309 on Nov 6, 2009 9:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I had another thought

which seems the most likely in my mind- which is Theo got him cheap, plans on signing Bay or Holliday, and once they are both signed, trade Hermida to a team that was hoping to get one of them and is now desperate for an OF. There’s way too many teams in for them both and way too weak of a market apart from them. If we could find someone desperate, especially if we still paid his salary, he could become pretty valuable.

by wolf9309 on Nov 6, 2009 12:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I just don’t see this as a viable option. If he was proves to be such a great trade chip, why did the Sox get him for such a modest price? I don’t think picking up his ‘10 salary will significantly improve his value as I can’t see him getting much of a raise past his $2.5M salary.

by mg050369 on Nov 6, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no this is true

I’m not suggesting he’ll be able to get a huge haul by himself, just thinking that at that point in the offseason Theo might be able to include him in something to get more value that the little bit that Jones and Alvarez provided. I don’t think he’ll be the centerpiece in any huge deal, just a little added value.

by wolf9309 on Nov 6, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Plenty of teams have been connected to Bay/Holliday

but I think a lot of that is sportswriters / agents making stuff up. The economy is still bad, so most teams don’t have much to spend, and will work (or collude) to keep payroll down.

The only teams I expect to be in play for Bay and Holliday are the Yankees, Red Sox and Cardinals. San Francisco may need power, but why go to the top of the market when guys like Jermaine Dye are available for shorter deals. I think the low-payroll and mid-payroll teams will look for value on the FA market, not spending stupid amounts of money like they did before the recession.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Nov 6, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mets will be in for both, bigtime.

They have the money, are in dire need of hitting from the LF position, and have some money coming off the books.

The Hermida trade only makes sense if the Sox are planning to flip him. He is too poor an overall player to start (Tommy’s suggestion that he could turn into a Quentin/Pena is true, but I doubt the Sox want to try this experiment), and his bad defense make him a far less useful guy off the bench. However, Hermida and Kotchman are young, not expensive guys with upside. The idea may be to flip the 2 +prospects for something juicy.

by Buzzy on Nov 6, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Seattle too?

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Nov 6, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't buy it.

Not when they need all their money to extend Felix Hernandez.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Nov 6, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

Seattle’s not exactly a low budget team- they have money and will spend it. They might want to try to sign Bay to show Felix that they intend to compete in the increasingly-challenging AL West so he is more likely to want to stay.

by wolf9309 on Nov 6, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They have a ton of money coming off the books.

Between Beltre, Washburn, Bedard and Miguel Batista they have $40M in contracts expiring.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Nov 6, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

and Jojima too. They have tons of flex.

by Buzzy on Nov 6, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i think more than that

I do believe it’s overexaggerated, but there are plenty of teams out there that could use a bat in LF.

I think Holliday and Bay will both end up with either Mets, Cards (unlikely), Yankees, or Sox, but Seattle is not unfathomable, and I think San Francisco will make a play for Bay as has been rumored- god knows they could use the bat. In the end, my guess is Holliday will end up with the Mets (the owner was quoted as saying their payroll for the year is “whatever Omar needs”) and Bay will end up with the red sox or seattle (seattle only if he decides he wants to be there because it is close to home, they probably won’t offer as much as us). But who knows well well my predictions will turn out.

by wolf9309 on Nov 6, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Kotchman+Hermida+Kelly+Kalish

for Adrian Gonzalez. Discuss.

by Buzzy on Nov 6, 2009 3:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Kotchman probably won't help

IIRC, they have a first baseman in the minors they really like- I believe they were talking about having him switch to RF so he’d be able to get in without Gonzalez blocking him. Other than that, I’m sure they’d love Kelly, and as their OF is pretty weak, they could probably use Kalish in the Minors and bring Hermida in at RF for 2010. Might be a good starting point, but I’d guess they wouldn’t want Kotchman and would want more.

Then again, I’m almost entirely uninformed about their farm system and who they have coming up so I’m probably not even qualified to be responding :)

by wolf9309 on Nov 6, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Kotchman has value

he was a 2.6 WAR player in 07 when he was the centerpiece of the Teixeira deal. He is a very good fielder, has some potential as a hitter, and is young and cheap.

by Buzzy on Nov 6, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oh yeah definitely

he’s a good solid ballplayer, I just meant that he doesn’t fit their immediate needs since they have someone they want to bring up from the minors for 1B. They may be interested in him if they want to turn around and flip him to somebody else, but other than that he’s probably not good for them. No disrespect to Kotchman.

I think probably would take somewhere along the lines of that package+ Buchholz, but I don’t think either team would really love the deal. I do think it’s pretty unlikely that we’ll trade for him because, as Theo said, since they’ve worked together so long, they value players very similarly and it would be hard to come to an agreement where they were both happy with a deal

by wolf9309 on Nov 6, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not close to enought

Kotchman+Hermida+Kalish+Kelly ……this amounts to Casey Kelly, a guy with 45 innings at high A for Adrian Gonzalez. After all, what do the Madres want with Kotchman? And If Gonzo moves, Kyle Banks gets that job in a landslide over Kotchamn. Hermida to SD? Wouldn’t they have the same problem with him that Florida did? IE, he is a unproven $3M player and they are a 40M payroll team. And Kalish? Nice player ….definitely a chip but his ETA is mid-2011. And Kelly, best case scenario, isn’t ready til 4/12. I think you need to keep adding if you want to get this done.

by dkbilson on Nov 6, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yes probably.

It just shows that there is not much chance here. The Sox are not exactly stocked in the farm.

by Buzzy on Nov 6, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe Lowrie would help

If we either pick up Alex gonzalez again or get someone else to play every day. They’re looking for a solid utility IF who can play 2nd and SS. He’d probably be worth quite a bit to them (don’t hate me Lowrie-lovers, I think he’s awesome, just trying to contemplate what it would actually take to get Adrian)

by wolf9309 on Nov 6, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

probably not

by it is interesting by WAR. It is 2 of our top prospects +about 3 WAR or more as a guess for full time Hermida/Kotchman. AGonz wan never more than a 3.5 WAR player until last year.

by Buzzy on Nov 6, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Casey Kelly was the next big thing.

People compare him to a young Zack Grienke. Why would the Red Sox trade him away? If it was King Felix, I can see why since you are exchanging a prospect for a stud.

IMO, and that is all it is, I believe a trade for either AG or Felix will be contingent on FA signings and if they get A. Chapman to help replace the lost farm.

Does Tazawa have a no trade clause in his deal? Anyone know?

by SoxAcumen on Nov 6, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you have to trade something to get something

and Kelly is far from MLB ready, so at the very least you are paying for “risk.” Either way, I doubt anyone thinks he will be a Grienke. Felix will not be traded now, since he is 23, cost controlled, plays for a high payroll team that is losing 40+million in obligations, and plays for a team that very well knows it can contend in the West. Agonz is a different story. And I would pass on Chapman who comes with plenty of questions and likely a high $$ tag.

by Buzzy on Nov 6, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fourth Outfielder?

If Jeremy Hermida is the “4th Outfielder,” its only because Jason Bay has walked and Hermida is platooning in Left. Otherwise, he has no role whatsoever in a outfield with Bay-Ellsbury-Drew as he will spell Bay infrequently and he serves no utility as Drew’s backup. Further, what sense does it make to bring in a “high upside” guy and then not give him the swings he needs. You think this guy is going to realize his potential off 150-200 swings? Sorry, the tea leaves are out there to be read. This guy is either going to be playing in a left field platoon next year (with rocco or Dye, etc….) or he will be in another city.

by dkbilson on Nov 6, 2009 6:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He will not start for the Sox

because there is no reason to experiment with a team that won 95 games with a guy who is a proven scrub defensively. For Hermida to have value he needs to live up to his potential with the bat. And in this regard I fully agree with you: he needs to play for that to happen. And why oh why would the Sox want Dye? He is totally washed up. He has (formally) been a minus WAR two of the last 3 years.

by Buzzy on Nov 6, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hermida is probably there as a "worst-case-scenario" insurance LF

It won’t happen though because we’ll get Holliday or Bay. The Yankees aren’t going to sign them both. My guess is we push for Holliday, the Yankees get him because they can outspend Michael Bloomberg, for crying out loud… then we sign Bay, and Hermida sits with Baldelli or gets traded for better pieces elsewhere because the insurance policy is no longer needed.

by dsharp on Nov 6, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Problem

Holliday will not sign till December because he is a top level Boras client, so I doubt it will go down this way.

by Buzzy on Nov 6, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't follow...

Let’s say Holliday signs in December with the MF Yankees, then we sign Bay. What’s wrong with that scenario? Has Bay given the Sox a signing deadline before December?

by dsharp on Nov 6, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hermida is one of two things to me

Insurance on the possibility of signing neither Bay nor Holliday and as a Quad A prospect in the minors.

by A Guy on Nov 8, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs


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