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If You Don't Love Pedro Martinez, Shame On You

Pedro Martinez is the man. I think most of us can agree on that. But it's not just what kind of pitcher that he was (or is?) -- it's also the character that he brings to the table. I, for one, will always remember some of his classical quotes ("Wake up the damn Bambino..."), but he's still dishing them out as a Philly:

On Red Sox fans: "I know they don't like the Yankees to win, not even in Nintendo games."

He also said that he still considers himself a Bostonian and that he treasures his relationship with Red Sox fans. Earlier, he joked with reporters that he "wants his props" now and not when he dies.

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On Red Sox fans: "I'm pretty sure that every Boston fan out there can feel proud that I'm going to try and beat the Yankees and I'm going to give just the same effort I always did for them. They're special fans and they will always have my respect."

Pedro also reflected on his legacy as a Major League pitcher, one that will make him a first-ballot Hall of Famer:

"I'm pretty sure my name will be mentioned. I don't know in which way. But maybe after I retire, because normally when you die, people tend to actually give you props about the good things. But that's after you die. So I'm hoping to get it before I die. I don't want to die and hear everybody say, 'Oh, there goes one of the best players ever.' If you're going to give me props, just give them to me right now."

Hey, Pedro. Go out and win game six, buddy. I hope you get another ring. You deserve it.

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Oddly, Swisher used Playstation to refer to the stats that Rodriguez puts up.

Weird how different people use different brands to mean the same thing.

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by bdalebs on Nov 3, 2009 9:37 PM EST reply actions  

Different eras, too

Pedro has got a few years on Swish. Nintendo was definitely “his” era.

by Randy Booth on Nov 3, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He's dating himself then.

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by bdalebs on Nov 3, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

because nobody else will; he comes off as insufferable

OK, no shame in my game – I know Pedro was a great pitcher, one of the best however I don’t “love” Pedro but I sure am rooting for him. I don’t know that anyone “deserves” a ring but again, I am rooting for him & the Phillies because:

A) I hate the Yankees
B) I like Philly as a city
C) The rep of the Philly fans needs national attention once again
D) I hate the Yankees
E) I hate the Yankees

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Nov 4, 2009 7:10 AM EST up reply actions  

How can you not love...

A pitcher who had better season or two than Sandy Koufax at his peak? and he was pitching in a bandbox, compare to the non batting eye Dodger Stadium, (where ironically Petey seemed to pitch well at)

Petey is one of the greatest pitchers that has grabbed a baseball. He is a first ballot HOF…

However he needs to crush the evil hearts of MFY and their fans everywhere mañana.

by superferret on Nov 3, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

I think all Sox fans regret in 2009...

We didn’t sign Petey….

However at the time, I wouldn’t sign him, but in hindsight….

by superferret on Nov 3, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't go that far

He wasn’t worth the contract he signed with the Mets. Would I have wanted Pedro as a Sox for the rest of his career? Yes, but not at that price. But hey, it all worked out.

by Randy Booth on Nov 3, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

His leaving for the Mets in 2005

Made Theo looked like a genius. I am just happy that Pedro had a good 1/3 or so of the 2009 MLB season. It would had been nice to see Petey pitch again as a Sox in 2009.

by superferret on Nov 3, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Which is what you meant in the original comment, right?

That we will regret not signing him this season when he could have helped a ton? We can’t have known that he would have pitched this well – he didn’t impress the FO enough to merit a contract, which means they must have thought he was done. They were wrong, but you have to look at the process; like you said, “at the time”, we didn’t sign him.

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by bdalebs on Nov 4, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Pedro Martinez

better than Brad Penny and John Smoltz.

VARITEK MUST GO
Brandon Webb in 2010

by gizmosandy on Nov 3, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

In the AL, I'm not so sure.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Nov 3, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Without a doubt...

…Pedro deserves another ring. This would be historic.

by Justin_Bobo on Nov 3, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

One of the top two moments of the year...

…was watching him in Game 2. The outcome didn’t matter. As stolen from Touching All the Bases:

The best moment? [edit] [T]hat seemed obvious: The quick-pitch of Derek Jeter for strike three while he was going through his trademark time-out-no-not-really-I’m-just-raising-my-arm-because-I’m-cool-like-that routine in the batter’s box. I’d like to think Pedro got the thought to try it based on his institutional knowledge of the Yankees gained from his time with the Sox. Yep, that just happened. Take a seat, Captain. How I would have loved to have heard the muttered comments in the Yankees dugout after that trick.

Jon and Josh may have racked up 424 Ks. I can’t recall any as satisfying, or as genuinely surprising, as this one was. To boot, we are all so lucky to get the chance to see him take on the MFY in their house one more time.

The man should never have to pay for a drink or a meal in this town for life.

by Christopher B on Nov 3, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

Easier than "stealing":

Use the little quotation marks button to make a green text box around whatever you highlight for quoting.

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by bdalebs on Nov 4, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah, now I see them!
King Felix will offer Boston his services in exchange for a flight-capable DeLorean, Duckboat, and the public flogging of Roger Clemens

by Christopher B on Nov 4, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Too many.

Just paste the quote in the comment box (not the subject/bold line) and highlight it, click the button once.

Example

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by bdalebs on Nov 4, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Then I Have Really Sinned On Another Topic

I thank you for your patience in advance. There’s no way to edit or delete a comment once it’s up, is there?

by Christopher B on Nov 4, 2009 2:24 AM EST up reply actions  

There is not

But don’t worry, we won’t haze you about this error for too long :)

by Randy Booth on Nov 4, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

If he beats the yanks tomorrow

it would be like shakespeare in its poetry, for red sox fans and most of the world. but for yankee fans, it would be the sweetest way they could possibly win. but fuck that. it would be utterly beautiful if he comes up huge, and i expect him to.

also, regarding the title of this post, i can easily imagine someone not loving him. he can come off as a bit of a dick, and he did throw a 75 year old man by the head. but i love him all the same. definitely one of the five best pitchers of all time.

by revived0103 on Nov 3, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

We're just supposed to love him for what he did for the team.

Manny would have been fine if not for the jogging and fake injuries – he was doing basically the same stuff as Pedro.

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by bdalebs on Nov 4, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i do love him for that

but i kind of like him for the same reason that people hate him: his somewhat arrogant wise-ass attitude. plus he’s a great pitcher.

by revived0103 on Nov 4, 2009 4:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Pedro

Pedro and his crazy antics just shows how loose he was when he was pitching for the Red Sox. He was the Ace on the team that hadnt won a world series in 86 years and was expected to be in the running every year. Yet he felt no pressure, he was the same guy day in and day out, he knew he was the best pitcher in the league. And he still knows he has enough gas in the tank to shut down the Yanks one more time

by cnubsbl16 on Nov 4, 2009 7:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Waa?

Pedro jogging and faking injuries?

No no no. Sure he was crazy, and arrogant, and loose in the lips, but he was a gamer, and never dogged it.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Nov 4, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

... Which is why we didn't turn on him.

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by bdalebs on Nov 6, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

What BS said

Plus I like to be very over the top, so the headline is obviously way out there. I realize there are a lot of people that hate Pedro.

by Randy Booth on Nov 4, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah, you're pretty moderate, boss. ;)

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by bdalebs on Nov 4, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not so sure about Manny

Any truth to the rumor he wouldn’t visit Walter Reed?

Thank you so much for showing me some of the ropes! I have much reading to do during the offseason.

by Christopher B on Nov 4, 2009 12:17 AM EST reply actions  

Pedro was special.

For four or so years, his starts were the reason to watch the Red Sox. We were watching the likes of Pat Rapp, Mark Portugal and Brian Rose 4 out of 5 days. Everyone remember that 17 (or 18)K game against the MFY? The guy was incredible and I doubt I will ever get to see someone that dominant on the Sox again.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Nov 4, 2009 12:21 AM EST reply actions  

Meh.

Maybe Dayton Moore hands over Greinke for Ellsbury or something.

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by bdalebs on Nov 4, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Except Greinke ain't no Pedro.

His FIP this year was higher than Pedro’s FIP in any of his 5 peak years. And Pedro played in the steroid era, where the league average FIP was a full half run higher.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Nov 4, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I know, just saying, maybe we get something to make the heartbreak less painful.

Hell, maybe Lester or Buch becomes crazy good.

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by bdalebs on Nov 4, 2009 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

He is my favorite athlete ever

I love the guy and if I was a MFY fan, I would be very worried. Pedro has been looking for a way to stick it too the MFY ever since 2003.

OMG if the Yankees lose tonight: 1) CC is gonna choke in game 7 and 2) If you don’t pitch Cliff Lee you are CRAZY.

by SoxAcumen on Nov 4, 2009 3:49 PM EST reply actions  

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