Bay to the Yankees? Holliday to the Red Sox?

In what world?

.280/.408/.519 in 2008
.279/.392/.522 in 2009

Sure, he has an injury history, but you don’t spring $60 million dollars to dodge the chance that a very good player misses 10 or 20 more games than his replacement, whose presence in right field would be worth a good bump in team ERA.

But it’s an unaffordable one at $15 million a pop.

Offensively, either Bay or Holliday would probably be better.

But defensively, it certainly balances out. Bay especially is a statue out there, as evidenced by the fact that he can’t be moved more than 15 feet from the wall.

If you try to say bad things about J.D. Drew, people here at OTM (namely USG) will quickly — very quickly — try to disprove you. That’s just how we roll…

Nice.

Bay doesn’t get attention because he never slams his helmet/bat in frustration, yell at umps, or come up with crazy-cool handshakes with Papi. However, he has “quietly” been one of the best producers on our team, offensively and defensively. People hate on him cuz he’s not “gritty”.

I’m glad you realized his value and corrected yourself

but not a star. He’s too quiet and unassuming to stand out as a star.

It’s about 75/25 in favor of JD.

that most everyone here loves Drew. I think the people that don’t like Drew are the classic Boston Ya-dudes who call into the Comcast Sports Network and talk about how he doesn’t look upset when he gets a strike. I don’t think that’s anyone here, which seems like a surprisingly intelligent community.

That’s pretty much impossible.

We’ll spend several hundred million dollars to have Bay incompetently play right field instead of the fanstic fielder we have now!

God knows the best fielder on our team should be in platooning in DH!

Let’s give away Papi to whoever wants him! Clearly this last year has proved that he’s useless regardless of the fact that he had to begin training incredibly late because of recovering from an injury. We’ll pay his salary, lets just take him! We can find 30+ HR hitters anywhere. Practically tripping over them.

  The Sox can’t afford that, and if big money should be spent, and there is a fork in the road, take the pitching route. If a team has a strong rotation, they are already halfway winning the division.

I rather take give up money and money for Halladay, (Which isn’t going to happened) then someone like Miguel Cabrera, (who the Tigers may unload, because of his contract)

Those were free agents. You are advocating a series of trades, which is much less likely.

The Sox are going to be near the CBT (which would increase operating costs by a significant percentage), so they’re not going to blow nearly $40 million on two players when they already have $100 million on the books for this season. Of course, then you have the issue of where to fit them both in. Neither are good enough defensively to play CF, and pushing JD off the field is probably not a very smart thing to do. If any of the 3 corner outfielders would be a DH, it’d be Bay.
If we have both Bay and Holliday, AGon becomes unnecessary and likely impossible anyways. The FO isn’t going to blow through the checkbook and the farm all in one offseason. Even if they felt the need to stack the team with AllStar bats, there’s only so many positions.
You suggest moving Papi – a few obvious problems come to mind: 1) No one will take his full salary. 2) He’s not going to get us much in return. 3) He should meet his projections this year, now that he’s past whatever issues he had. Might as well just take the production he gives us, not have to pay for him to play somewhere else, and let him walk after this season.
Which means we don’t have the DH spot open (Papi’s not going to sit on the bench – no point to having a bat-only player on the bench with how full our roster will be). What’s the point of signing Bay if he’s just going to be a bench player?

So, basically, what could be done, of what you said, is sign Holliday and have Lowell back up Youk and play when Vic is at catcher. Lowell could also possibly split DH time with Papi, depending on how each deals with the long season.

Little to no skill involved in a player performing better in high leverage situations – it’s just chance of the good PAs occuring when need most. Jed doesn’t swing at a lot of balls outside the zone (17.8%, compared to around 25% average for everyone else), but he does have a small issue with striking out too much, but that should drop with more chances to see major league stuff.
Jed was almost exactly a league average SS (offensively and defensively) while playing with a broken wrist. He has good doubles power, and he can knock a few out here and there. He doesn’t make a lot of flashy plays on defense, but he plays solid, clean defense on the balls he’s supposed to.
I’m a huge Jed fan, in case you can’t tell.

It doesn’t matter what metric you use. He is either solidly below average or awful.

But I do think there are better options out there, and that Bay’s offense is likely to decline over the span of any long term contract.

hes under contract for two more.

You also might want to note that he’s a damn good ballplayer, regardless of how well he hits in a couple dozen ABs.