Bay to the Yankees? Holliday to the Red Sox?
If the rumor is true that Bay did reject the red sox offer, which we can't prove or disprove at this point, who's to say the Yankees won't swoop in and offer him crazy money like with Texiera? The Yankees really do need OF help if they don't want to sign Matsui or Damon. That would leave them with Gardener and Melky right now, they have to fix that before the season starts without question they will make a run for a big name.
How would you guys feel if the red sox made a large offer to Holliday? I think this would actually work out quite well. I would REALLY love to see the red sox sign both Holliday AND Bay. Move Bay to right field and get rid of JD Drew. Adding Holliday would bring us another 30 HR hitter.
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Yes, we should get rid of our good fielding, cheaper, and about even offensive RF
For a more expensive one who can’t field for crap.
by Ben Buchanan on Nov 19, 2009 11:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+2
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Nov 20, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+ 8
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 20, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+10
I’m sure if Bay is a defensive liability in LF, he’ll be gold glove caliber in right.
by mg050369 on Nov 21, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit, it was a geometric series, mg.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 21, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll pick it up from yours bs. +16
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by sox-inda-south on Nov 22, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming MG was a 16 and sox inda south was a 32
+64
Any real red sox fan knows that JD Drew is in fact the man.
by A Guy on Nov 22, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+128
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but...
JD Drew does have an injury history, and his offense has been pretty bad of late.
~SHaFF!~
by SHaFF87 on Nov 19, 2009 11:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
His offense has been bad?
In what world?
.280/.408/.519 in 2008
.279/.392/.522 in 2009
Sure, he has an injury history, but you don’t spring $60 million dollars to dodge the chance that a very good player misses 10 or 20 more games than his replacement, whose presence in right field would be worth a good bump in team ERA.
by Ben Buchanan on Nov 20, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In the world of RBI and "hustle"
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Nov 20, 2009 2:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahaha
hustle is my favorite stat.
by wolf9309 on Nov 20, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm..
Looking back at his career stats, I’m less correct than I thought. He actually hit more HR this past season that he’s hit in a while. I guess I just don’t notice him as much as I used to. I still think that Holliday or Bay would be better for the team overall, but you have made some pretty good points, which made me do some further research.
I wouldn’t mind having all of them on the team, and having a nice rotation for the OF, which isn’t a luxury we are used to having.
~SHaFF!~
by SHaFF87 on Nov 20, 2009 12:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Or stick one at DH.
But it’s an unaffordable one at $15 million a pop.
Offensively, either Bay or Holliday would probably be better.
But defensively, it certainly balances out. Bay especially is a statue out there, as evidenced by the fact that he can’t be moved more than 15 feet from the wall.
by Ben Buchanan on Nov 20, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As you can tell
If you try to say bad things about J.D. Drew, people here at OTM (namely USG) will quickly — very quickly — try to disprove you. That’s just how we roll…
by Randy Booth on Nov 20, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Drew's my man.
Guy’s a great ball player who gets hated on for holding out after the draft and having a bad year when his kid was in the hospital. Nobody should get shit for not being able to perform under those circumstances.
by Ben Buchanan on Nov 20, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
one of my favorite players
On base a ton, clutch hits, amazing fielding (he catches everything near right field without even looking like he’s trying).
by wolf9309 on Nov 20, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a big JD Drew fan too
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Nov 20, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
drew love!
Homer: Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.
by DougieWentDeep on Nov 20, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JD = awesome.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 20, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"I’m less correct than I thought."
Nice.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 20, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry if I'm coming off like an ass.
I’m not getting all my venting out in Filters because of assorted issues. In short, I don’t recommend trying to take on responsibilities as a teen when your parents still feel the need to control your life.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 20, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind then.
Thought you were implying that I was being a pain.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 21, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Outfield Rotation
Am I correct in understanding that you are not advocating signing both Bay and Holliday (at $15M+/year) to share corner outfield duties with Drew already making $14M?
by mg050369 on Nov 21, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
when I originally wrote the post I was advocating to move Drew.
Until I was convinced otherwise.
But yes, that would be a nice rotation, obviously it won’t happen, but it would be nice.
~SHaFF!~
by SHaFF87 on Nov 21, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I used to like Drew.
When the Red Sox first signed him I was quite happy. Just seems like he’s fallen off the radar, but it seems like he’s just been quietly pretty solid, I just didn’t notice. Doesn’t surprise me that he had things going on in his personal life, he didn’t seem to be playing to the level I thought he was capable of. I honestly thought he was going to be a STAR in Boston.
~SHaFF!~
by SHaFF87 on Nov 20, 2009 1:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
"Quietly pretty solid" is a good way to put it
Bay doesn’t get attention because he never slams his helmet/bat in frustration, yell at umps, or come up with crazy-cool handshakes with Papi. However, he has “quietly” been one of the best producers on our team, offensively and defensively. People hate on him cuz he’s not “gritty”.
I’m glad you realized his value and corrected yourself
by Schulz on Nov 20, 2009 2:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. Drew is better than Bay
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Nov 20, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he's a great player
but not a star. He’s too quiet and unassuming to stand out as a star.
by wolf9309 on Nov 20, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell no to getting rid of JD Drew
the guy is a solid baseball player. I’d rather have Holliday over Bay but if that means giving out a contract of 100+ to either I’d pass on both.
I’m willing to sit through a subpar 2010 if it means breaking the bank in 2011 with all the contracts that will be expiring on this team.
Release Jason Varitek before ST is over !
Do not pay Jason Bay !!
Trade Buchholz !!!
by gizmosandy on Nov 20, 2009 7:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
If the MFY want to give Bay $100M, let 'em
If he performs up to the level he did this year for the next four years — possible, but not likely — he’ll be worth about $60M. If the MFY want to give him $100M over the next five years, they’ll end up overpaying by at least $30M and probably a hell of a lot more. Let ’em — even a team with their resources is going to be hurt by overpaying by that much.
by RSNexile on Nov 20, 2009 9:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
well, by reading all the posts here...
you wouldn’t be able to tell that the poll so far has gone in favor of signing both of them and moving drew. I’m quite surprised after reading all the posts. Maybe people who voted for that don’t want to say anything for fear of getting eye gouged =P
~SHaFF!~
by SHaFF87 on Nov 20, 2009 11:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Or they're fans of other teams who want the Sox to be weaker next year
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Nov 20, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or you should be hesitant in trusting a mostly anonymous poll.
Especially when one of the options is based on the crap the MSM brainwashes most people into thinking.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 20, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Those people
are thnking about the Sox like a fantasy team, not a reality baseball team. HR AND RBI, YAY!!
by Schulz on Nov 23, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
glad to see people are actually posting though.
At least it’s not a dead topic and people actually want to discuss it lol.
~SHaFF!~
by SHaFF87 on Nov 20, 2009 12:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We're starved for topics.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 20, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
Get rid of JD Drew? That would be really stupid and pointless!
Let Bay go, he wants to test the market, ya same thing Damon said … Bay will end up in pinstripes ….. It sucks but its the truth
Holliday should help the line-up …
Time will only tell ….
by jgonzales19 on Nov 20, 2009 12:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Give me Drew anydaoy of the week over Bay
Drew gets such a bad wrap around here. He only deserved it for some of 2007, he has been great outside of that time.
Release Jason Varitek before ST is over !
Do not pay Jason Bay !!
Trade Buchholz !!!
by gizmosandy on Nov 20, 2009 6:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Umm... forgot the "JD for leadoff" campaign, Sandy?
It’s about 75/25 in favor of JD.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 20, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think
that most everyone here loves Drew. I think the people that don’t like Drew are the classic Boston Ya-dudes who call into the Comcast Sports Network and talk about how he doesn’t look upset when he gets a strike. I don’t think that’s anyone here, which seems like a surprisingly intelligent community.
by wolf9309 on Nov 21, 2009 3:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like Drew..
However his stats don’t lie. He is a consistent hitter and a good OBP and a good OPS. He is also a really good outfielder, which I feel is his best strength. I think he is overpaid, and needs to bat in more runs. I also have a bias toward any Boras clients. Whether it is Tek, Manny, A-Rod, Ellsbury. Drew has been one of Boras pet projects.
Drew may not be flashy, but the Sox could do much worse in a really difficult place to play in, (right field), if a right fielder screws up on a play, it is either a ground rule double, triple or an inside the park home run. During day games, the sun is in the right fielder’s face, (I think Patriot’s Day games are the worse for Right Fielders)
by superferret on Nov 21, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“I think he is overpaid” and you’re going to hold that against Drew, or Theo? You expect a guy to ask for less money than a team is willing to pay?
“and needs to bat in more runs.” Are you just trying to incite us?
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Nov 21, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"surprisingly intelligent community"
What’s so surprising about our intelligence, hmm?
by Schulz on Nov 23, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha
What makes it surprising is things I’ve read on other red sox fan pages…
by wolf9309 on Nov 23, 2009 3:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
OTM is the creme of the crop.
Some of us have a few more air bubbles than others *cough*NG*cough*, but still.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't foul it up
Release Jason Varitek before ST is over !
Do not pay Jason Bay !!
Trade Buchholz !!!
by gizmosandy on Nov 23, 2009 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Keep Drew
Get Bay, Holliday and Adrian Gonzalez and move Papi. Drew and Lowell can share DH duties with Lowell backing up Youk and Drew backing up Bay or Holliday.
by Bako on Nov 20, 2009 11:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WTF.
That’s pretty much impossible.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 20, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes!
We’ll spend several hundred million dollars to have Bay incompetently play right field instead of the fanstic fielder we have now!
God knows the best fielder on our team should be in platooning in DH!
Let’s give away Papi to whoever wants him! Clearly this last year has proved that he’s useless regardless of the fact that he had to begin training incredibly late because of recovering from an injury. We’ll pay his salary, lets just take him! We can find 30+ HR hitters anywhere. Practically tripping over them.
by wolf9309 on Nov 21, 2009 3:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for the record I'm probably an ass
and that was probably too sarcastic, but I just disagree with that post so very much.
by wolf9309 on Nov 21, 2009 3:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like something I'd say.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 21, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Watch the video, starting about 3:25 in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oel60VOjR6g
And I quote:
George: I think I got it. How ’bout this? How ’bout this? We trade Jim Leyritz and Bernie Williams, for Barry Bonds, huh? Whadda ya think? That way you have Griffey and Bonds, in the same outfield! Now you got a team! Ha ha ha.
by RSNexile on Nov 21, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That isn't going to happen..
The Sox can’t afford that, and if big money should be spent, and there is a fork in the road, take the pitching route. If a team has a strong rotation, they are already halfway winning the division.
I rather take give up money and money for Halladay, (Which isn’t going to happened) then someone like Miguel Cabrera, (who the Tigers may unload, because of his contract)
by superferret on Nov 21, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like some of that...
If cabrera can stay healthy.
~SHaFF!~
by SHaFF87 on Nov 21, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but then again...
both of these would be trades that would cost us quite a few prospects to accomplish. But if they feel comfortable with the trade offers, I trust Theo to make the right decision, he knows what he’s doing.
~SHaFF!~
by SHaFF87 on Nov 21, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
RE WTF
Impossible? Why not? crazier things have happened look at the yanks last year getting Tex, CC and burnett
by Bako on Nov 20, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Those were free agents. You are advocating a series of trades, which is much less likely.
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Nov 20, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea I know I’m coming out of the clouds now but what a lineup that would be. I’m hoping for a great shortstop for Christmas
by Bako on Nov 20, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Picked this up for ya:

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 20, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Randy, if you're killed by a disgruntled Lowrie fan anytime soon, can I have the site?
Please?
by Ben Buchanan on Nov 21, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No reason to worry. bs lives a little too far away.
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Nov 21, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because I like being creepy:
I have access to about a bazillion sky miles and dozens of weapons. Hurray for being a military brat!
Wait, you can’t take swords on planes…
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 21, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay........moving on.....
…..back to Bay and Holliday……..
"Hating the New York Yankees is as American as apple pie, unwed mothers and cheating on your income tax." -- Mike Royko
by sox-inda-south on Nov 22, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Although,
judging from the fact that your parents turn off your internet on school nights, a Jed Lowrie-inspired revenge mission to Boston might be a little out of the question.
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Nov 22, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Get in line bozo
Release Jason Varitek before ST is over !
Do not pay Jason Bay !!
Trade Buchholz !!!
by gizmosandy on Nov 22, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i really like lowrie...
I hope he flourishes into a great SS.
~SHaFF!~
by SHaFF87 on Nov 21, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bay and Holliday are going to be difficult to sign by themselves, let alone together.
The Sox are going to be near the CBT (which would increase operating costs by a significant percentage), so they’re not going to blow nearly $40 million on two players when they already have $100 million on the books for this season. Of course, then you have the issue of where to fit them both in. Neither are good enough defensively to play CF, and pushing JD off the field is probably not a very smart thing to do. If any of the 3 corner outfielders would be a DH, it’d be Bay.
If we have both Bay and Holliday, AGon becomes unnecessary and likely impossible anyways. The FO isn’t going to blow through the checkbook and the farm all in one offseason. Even if they felt the need to stack the team with AllStar bats, there’s only so many positions.
You suggest moving Papi – a few obvious problems come to mind: 1) No one will take his full salary. 2) He’s not going to get us much in return. 3) He should meet his projections this year, now that he’s past whatever issues he had. Might as well just take the production he gives us, not have to pay for him to play somewhere else, and let him walk after this season.
Which means we don’t have the DH spot open (Papi’s not going to sit on the bench – no point to having a bat-only player on the bench with how full our roster will be). What’s the point of signing Bay if he’s just going to be a bench player?
So, basically, what could be done, of what you said, is sign Holliday and have Lowell back up Youk and play when Vic is at catcher. Lowell could also possibly split DH time with Papi, depending on how each deals with the long season.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 20, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he’s ok but takes way too many called 3rd strikes in clutch situations but then again there aren’t many if any shortstops to go after this off season
Life's tough...it's even tougher when you're stupid.--John Wayne
Bako
by Bako on Nov 20, 2009 11:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"clutch situations" is a very selective sample to judge a player off of.
Little to no skill involved in a player performing better in high leverage situations – it’s just chance of the good PAs occuring when need most. Jed doesn’t swing at a lot of balls outside the zone (17.8%, compared to around 25% average for everyone else), but he does have a small issue with striking out too much, but that should drop with more chances to see major league stuff.
Jed was almost exactly a league average SS (offensively and defensively) while playing with a broken wrist. He has good doubles power, and he can knock a few out here and there. He doesn’t make a lot of flashy plays on defense, but he plays solid, clean defense on the balls he’s supposed to.
I’m a huge Jed fan, in case you can’t tell.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 21, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Drew
Give Drew a big, gritty mustache and a funky swing, and he’s basically Dwight Evans. Which is to say, a hell of a player.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Nov 21, 2009 3:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Give Drew a mustache and the world would collapse in on itself.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 21, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
??
Funky swing? What are you talking about? JD has one of the smoothest swing’s in baseball …
by jgonzales19 on Nov 22, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he also is mustacheless
hence why he would need both to become Dwight Evans.
by wolf9309 on Nov 22, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
People need to stop hating on Bay
Bay is an ELITE offensive player, posting a wOBA within 5 points of Adrian Gonzalaz, Mark Teixeira, Miguel Cabrera, and Chase Utley. Some of his value is diminished by his poor defense, but you cannot take UZR as the end all be all to defensive stats, it is still very much disagreed upon and has a horrible model for Fenway Park. When you then apply such an unsure metric to your measure of value (as they do in WAR), you have a serious chance of over/underrating a lot of those guys. Do you guys really believe he was worth less than Nyjer Morgan? I don’t, considering how much more sure we are of the validity of our hitting stats.
by Gnick on Nov 23, 2009 12:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He stinks defensively
It doesn’t matter what metric you use. He is either solidly below average or awful.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Nov 23, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What I'm saying is
We can very definitely and objectively quantify his offensive contributions, which we know to be excellent, and we cannot do this for his defense.
by Gnick on Nov 23, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We also know that his skill set is the type that doesn't hold up very well over time.
And you can combine multiple defensive metrics with the “sniff-test” and come up with a decent approximation of Bay’s abilities.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the sniff-test?
Does that involve smelling Bay? I hear Canadians smell.
Also I’m pretty sure I’ve heard that Varitek is the one that failed that sniff test.
by wolf9309 on Nov 23, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, I mean judging a statistic's validity based on how well it correlates with popular opinion.
Of course, there’s the issue with avoiding bias, which is why Tango does the Fans’ Scouting Reports each year. And then you have to deal with the influence of the defensive stats on the opinions of the people bored enough to actually fill out the ballots for the Fans’. Very complicated, but adding in as many opinions as possible helps paint some sort of picture.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha no i realize this
I just wanted to be an ass :D
by wolf9309 on Nov 24, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just had to take it literally. :|]
(That’s a robot on FB)
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 24, 2009 2:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he was worth less than Morgan
But I do think there are better options out there, and that Bay’s offense is likely to decline over the span of any long term contract.
by Ben Buchanan on Nov 23, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Keep Drew one more year
Drew hits great with RISP every other year, 2010 should be his up year. Keep him one more year, then let him go.
by Old Fan on Nov 30, 2009 3:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hes under contract for two more.
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Nov 30, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not the best logic, but sure, I'll go with it.
You also might want to note that he’s a damn good ballplayer, regardless of how well he hits in a couple dozen ABs.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 30, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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