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Early October exit could mean changes in the clubhouse


A roster that suddenly is filled with question marks could see changes by next May

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There was no hiding it, the spark that had ignited the championship runs of 04 and 07 was missing this past year. A fast start (most notably 8-0 against the yanks) had Red Sox Nation thinking pennant. The team had jumped to the early division lead despite the struggles of Big Papi and a depleted starting rotation. Jason Bay and Kevin Youkilis did their best to hide the defencies of the team.

Their efforts held only for so long as Matsuzaka headed for the DL and Beckett suddenly had a homerun proble. Their division lead quickly decimated as the Soxs looked up at a 8.5 lead by the rival Yankees and suddenly into a wild card battle with the Rangers. The boys in red managed to get their act together in September to make it to October.

And while a team has the ability to suffer up and downs during the regular season, their weaknesses show ten fold in the playoffs.

The Angels had been a team who Boston had dominated in recent years, making a first round battle with the Halos just another series. But this soxs team ran into the problems that had plagued the team all season, a poor rotation (with the exception of Lester surprisingly) and an inability to hit in tough spots ultimately doomed the soxs to their sweep.

The question now is, how does the perennial underdog (as their fans would like to believe) soar back to greatness. With Wakefield having Back surgery a priority must be put on pitching. Shipping Lowe and Smoltz has depleted anny depth the Soxs had at the position and with Bucholtz still not establishing himself, Boston may have to look to free agency. The most coveted target may indeed come from the team that swept the soxs in the playoffs, John Lackey. The 31 year old has proved to be consistent and will come into a rotation where he does not need to establish himself as an ace so long as Beckett and Lester remain at their current stature.

Offense is another obstacle to tackle. Simply put, the Red Soxs are aging at key positions. While the front office secured their backstop with the aquisition of Martinez, 3rd base could become a problem if Lowell can not produce. While Lowrie looks fine at shortstop, Boston may need to consider adding a first basement to complement Youkilis.

The Red Soxs are in a sense stuck in purgatory. Their future seems uncertain as they took a step down in recent years, but could be primed for a run in October with the right moves.

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An opinion helps draw a conclusion

by austin91092 on Oct 23, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Might want to change the line about "Lowe and Smoltz."

Penny and Smoltz is what you were looking for, I think.

And I’m the resident Jed-#1-fan guy, but I wouldn’t say he “looks fine” – still needs to get the wrist checked a couple more times during the offseason, and have NO pain during ST. It’s the most likely path, but there’s still a good chance that something else goes wrong.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 23, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Lowrie’s defense is not bad, but he had 68 AB this year. SS is perhaps the number 1 concern going in to 2010, so to say he looks fine is questionable.

Also, why should they “consider adding another first baseman to complement Youkilis” when he is one of our most consistent and productive hitters, and an above average defender?

by Schulz on Oct 27, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I wouldn’t say Lowrie looked fine at SS considering he didn’t play there very much. Lowell had struggles, but a .290 line with 17 hrs and 75 rbi’s isn’t bad, so not quite time to jump ship. But Theo may want Ortiz and Mikey to share DH so he can have above league average in every position (Adrian Gonzalez at 1B ex.) and to compete with NYY.

But overall I see what you’re saying, just sometimes gotta be careful (esp. Lackey) throwing too much $.

"We're not going to give up," It doesn't happen, so who cares? There's always next year. It's not like it's the end of the world."-Manny Ramirez

by revigik on Oct 23, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lowell's OBP was .337 with crap 3B defense. Time to jump ship.

Lowrie is a fine defender. Had been in the minors, and has upped his game in the majors with some serious range and, most of all, the ability not to make dumb mistakes. Where A-Gon was consistent, he never looked smooth. Lowrie looks smooth, though hopefully Iglesias can prove himself offensively capable enough to take over soonish (2011 would be nice). He’s a ridiculous defender.

by USG on Oct 23, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Iglesias

I have faith in him…but hes still so young….its hard to bring up a starting shortstop at a young age

by cnubsbl16 on Oct 24, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's way too hard to judge his offense based on an immensely small sample size.

But in what sample size we have, he’s not afraid to take a walk (and plate discipline is a hugely under-recognized tool), he’s got good speed on the paths, and he’s making good contact. Let’s just say it’s more than I expected early on, and the defense is apparently as advertised. Based on what I’ve heard, he could be the best defensive SS in the league not too long from now.

by USG on Oct 24, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sweeeet

to the last sentence. i can’t wait

by revived0103 on Oct 24, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I see what you are saying about Lowrie I am just assuming he is going to take the leap forward when given the chance. Lowell’s stat line is average but I worry he is not going to be as durable and Boston might not want to wait for him to spiral downwards.

An opinion helps draw a conclusion

by austin91092 on Oct 23, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"The Red Soxs are in a sense stuck in purgatory."

I LOVE that line! Bravo.

Looking for the fountain of youth surely does leave one in purgatory at best, and at worst, that other place! however, you won’t find much realism from the stat guys around here as they seem determined to use their stats to show how the fountain is just over that horizon. You know, that horizon that hides the gold at the end of that rainbow.

by NG on Oct 23, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it's Purgatory at all

Sox are reasonably set in several areas going into next year, namely:

Front line starting, 2B, 1B, CF, C, Bullpen
Great youth and performance in these areas.

Really going into next year they are only going to be old @ 3B. With Youk able to move to 3rd at anytime, I really don’t see age as an issue with the Sox at all.

Sox can focus on 3 areas this off season and come out looking strong for next year:
- LF.
Ideally getting Matt Holliday here, and paying a premium for him, gets you improved defense, a better all around bat who can hit in the 4 spot and more spark/fire in the clubhouse. He’s should be the first area of focus.
- SS.
Lowrie could be the answer here, but this position has been an issue since ‘04 and it’s likely not going to improve much this off season. If you can get Gonzalez back cheap, might be worth considering as he can hold down the fort in the event Lowrie can stay healthy or doesn’t perform. Bobby Crosby could be an option as a utility IF as well here.
Back end SP -
I don’t think Lackey makes sense – you aren’t going to want to pay what he’ll command for a #3 starter. Sox are in a good position with Beckett, Lester, Dice K and Buchholz going into next year. Wakefield should return but some depth here certainly could be used. I think a John Garland or perhaps Ben Sheets in another low risk high reward style contract.

Papi’s bat is a concern as well but DH is an easy problem to solve, I think once LF is solved the Sox will also look for a solid 4th OF, Reed Johnson or Xavier Nady perhaps.

by JonnyNYC on Oct 23, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DH isn't really an easy problem to solve

Because big bats cost either big bucks or big returns.

Otherwise, though, you’re mostly right. I think the pen needs some shoring—we need a guy who can be consistently good to fill in that 8th inning need, but otherwise I like the idea of Paps-Oki-Bard-Ramirez and hopefully Richardson. Delcarmen is, and always has been, unreliable at best.

by USG on Oct 23, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well said, sir

Rec’d.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Oct 23, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOOM CHAKA BOOM

Annnnnnnnd…..Rec’d

"That was a lot of fun… You just keep pounding balls into the gap. The one thing you don’t want to do is hit a home run. That’s a rally-killer." Jeff Francoeur

by radiohix on Oct 23, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"but that’s where the low-risk situation came in."

Unfortunately, the risk escalated with each ineffective/injured pitcher. If Theo’s trying to find the next OBP-ahead-of-the-curve market, he’s going to have to figure out how to account for the chances that “low-risk” guys become something a team has to depend on because of bad luck.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 23, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bad luck, as you said.

A team can only be so deep. You simply won’t have guys like Sheets or Bedard agreeing to be the 7th, maybe 8th men.

by USG on Oct 23, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is to say that Theo's going to have to blow minds to make this strategy work.

If it was to fill out a roster with extra players, it’s great – that should be what Theo’s looking for this offseason. We (will) have a player in place for at least half the season at every position, which means the “low-risk” guys will have very little chance to become important.

@bs_uf15bosox9be 12 pieces of bacon, a Red Bull, and go get 'em; Learn to use SB Nation

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 23, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If my comments are correct and

right on, why get mad at me if youy agree? Trotting out all these contract reasons why we are stuck in crap only points to management incompetence. It does not stop, and should not stop legitimate criticism of the problems and even how we got there!

So you don’t like the reality of the Sox’s situation, but I am glad you can agree with me on much of this!

by NG on Oct 24, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's because they're an extreme, and not correct in the way you present them.

You talk about the Sox like it’s the end of the world because they’re not composed of 100% 27-year-olds. The fact is that more youth is better, but you think that all youth is necessary and that it’s some deficiency of the Sox that they aren’t able to make a team completely of young superstar talent, when instead it’s the reality of the league. It doesn’t help that you then proceed to attack everyone else for working in realities when they suggest signing veterans at reasonable prices to fill in holes/get good value.

by USG on Oct 24, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We wouldn't get so mad if it was CONSTRUCTIVE criticism.

All you do is complain; try suggesting realistic solutions, and then we’ll listen.

@bs_uf15bosox9be 12 pieces of bacon, a Red Bull, and go get 'em; Learn to use SB Nation

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 25, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even though it's from a different sport, I might have found my go-to link when people reference team chemistry...

Unforunately, t snail mail has beaten the WWL’s website in getting the article published, but it’s the latest in the “Player X” series (which is amazing, btw). Even if it’s from an NFL player’s perspective, I’d imagine it carries over – he basically laughs in the face of anyone who thinks a team won’t play up to potential just because of some disputes.
Now to read the rest of your rant…

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 23, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think there's something to team chemistry in other games.

In the NFL, a QB needs chemistry with his WRs just because it helps for them to know how the other will think and react to changing coverages and the like. Really the same can be said for all sorts of different units. On the football field, everyone needs to act as a coordinated team. If one piece comes loose, that could be the ballgame. Basketball even moreso, given that it’s just 5 guys. Obviously, it’s not the most important part, but if the Celtics’ Big 3 weren’t so perfect at understanding eachother’s games I’m not sure #17 would be hanging where it is.

But in baseball, each player’s AB is an individual AB. Unless we’re talking about a guy on 2nd tipping pitches, then there’s 0 influence of another player on him. Baseball is an individual sport played as a team by-and-large.

by USG on Oct 23, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All good

though I like Crosby more then Hardy, greater flexibility in the depth he’d provide and I think they are at about the same offensive level – though I haven’t looked at the stat lines between them.

by JonnyNYC on Oct 23, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Crosby's pretty horrible now.

Hardy would probably have gotten another shot if Escobar wasn’t breathing down his neck – the down year didn’t help his case.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 23, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate this article.

It’s nonsense. Lackey? Really? Lowrie looking fine at SS.
You get a thumbs down from me. If NG agrees with you, this is not a sign of good things to come on this website.

VARITEK MUST GO
Brandon Webb in 2010

by gizmosandy on Oct 23, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Understand where you are coming from

First off understand this is just my interpretation you do not have to agree. I honestly think Lowrie has been inconsistent this year in his game. Lackey is worth the money but it may be better spent on Harden/sheets/etc like others have mentioned.
If you disagree that is fine just do not bash my opinion cause it does not match your own.

An opinion helps draw a conclusion

by austin91092 on Oct 23, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

USG is trying not to scare you.

Sandy’s a crazy old guy, but he has moments of amazing brilliance. Oh, and he might call you a Tinkerbell.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 23, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giz also thinks Canadians are communists.

And I don’t ever want John Lackey on my team, for I enjoy watching him lose.

Goddamn that DeMarlo Hale.

by Bloggy on Oct 24, 2009 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't mind Lackey

I just think he wants AJ Burnett money. I wouldn’t pay either pitcher $16.5 million.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Oct 24, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha AJ.

Joke signing.

by USG on Oct 24, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got WAY too much fanboy in me...

…to want John fucking Lackey on my team.

Goddamn that DeMarlo Hale.

by Bloggy on Oct 24, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs


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