Sunrise Sox Links (?), 10/13 - Wrapping and Unwrapping Seasons
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 13, 2009 5:01 AM EDT
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I'm back and I've got a lot of links - going to do some rapid fire linkage today:
Why the Red Sox lost to the Angels - THT
The fact of a short series is that anything can happen.
Why the Angels beat the Red Sox - THT
Sean breaks down how the Angels rode a strong defense and steady relief pitching to the ALCS.
Two different perspectives. I can still feel the hate coming from the Angels, and it feels good.
Of course, EVERYONE wants in on the Paps story:
Lester on Booing Papelbon: ‘It Was Uncalled For’ - Full Count
Sorry, Lester, but he deserves it...
Papelbon Messed With His Mechanics - Sox Tea Party
Loss Will Fuel Papelbon - Full Count
It had better - whatever issues that he seemed to have fixed by the end of the regular season need to be examined in depth this offseason.
Torii Hunter scolds boo birds - BostonHerald.com
"Papelbon, I got so much respect for him, man. I definitely think he’s one of the best closers in the game. That’s terrible, actually."
Your evaluation of him? Yeah, it is. The best closers in the game didn't consistently lean over the cliff this season.
Blown Saves vs. Fielding Independent Pitching: Graph of the Day - Beyond the Box Score
Not entirely sure that I get what was trying to be shown here... Perhaps that Paps should have had more blown saves, based on his FIP? Seems like more of an anti-saves point.
After the jump, more links wrapping up the season and unwrapping the next season - we like our holidays to come early, apparently.
The Real Kevin Youkilis Is Missing - Sox Tea Party
Youkilis scratched out one double in 12 ABs en route to a .083 BA. Throw in his mental miscues in Game over at first base and you have reason to wonder what was going on? How can Youkilis play so poorly?
Because you're judging a player based on the equivalent of, say, 4 paragraphs? Forgive me if I have to check the previous Tea Party link to make sure this guy knows baseball, especially when you blame Youk for the errors/blown calls at 1B, when he should be credited with saving runs.
Boston Red Sox's Weak Record Outside of Division Foreshadowed ALDS Sweep - Bleacher Report
Decent breakdowns until they got into looking at records against individual teams - WAY too small of sample sizes...
BtB Power Rankings Season Review: AL East - Beyond the Box Score
Yes - the Rays had a better team than us. This is one of the many reasons why I'm not COMPLETELY pissed about the results of the series. That said, it was fun to rant when people made fun of me for wearing a Sox shirt yesterday.
Beckett wants his Tek-nichian back in 2010 - Full Count
Sorry, Beckett, but the only way he's coming back is as a coach. Check previous posts for more on this.
Astros to interview Bogar, Mills - Full Count
Good luck guys - just wish we could have polished their resumés with a nice World Series ring.
Bay plans to test free-agent market; Wakefield headed for surgery - The Providence Journal
Tim Wakefield will have surgery this week on his back to repair a herniated disk.
Get well soon, Timmeh.
Bay Contemplates ‘Uneasy’ Future - Full Count
Theo and Tito look ahead to 2010 - Full Count
Guess who they talked about? Let's follow my facial expressions as I read this:
Lowrie is an important factor for us as well.
:D - R.E.S.P.E.C.T. (sorry Aretha)
[T]his is a young player we really believe in who has been hurt as a big league player. We’ve not seen the type of player he can be yet at the big league level because he’s been playing hurt the entire team.
:/ - He was pretty good while playing with a major injury though.
At some point, the player has to get healthy to be able to show what he can do and to be able to help the organization. I don’t think we can hand a job to him because he hasn’t proved his health yet at this point.
:O - Blaming Jed for his wrist not healing when y'all held him back from getting surgery? Weak.
But at the same time, I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re sitting here at this time next year, hopefully with champagne and not having one of these post-mortems,
:P
but looking back and saying, wow, he really got healthy and proved himself in winning that job or playing his way into a meaningful role.
@>~~~>~~~ - I mean, :)
So we’ll see. Now it’s on him. He’s got to get himself healthy and make an impact. We can’t stake our season on the hope that he’ll be healthy. We have to have other options."
: | - Well, dur, Theo. We have to have other options EVERYWHERE.
Did you see Sox failure coming? I did - Fire Brand of the American League
These posts never come off well. NG, you want to set the standard for the crazy-meter (and decide what we're doing about the bet)?
That's all I've got. Thanks again to USG and Randy for covering me while I took some personal time off. Looking forward to talking about how we dominated everyone we've played this time next year. For now, let's just talk and share some links, man.
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Booing Paps
simply don’t agree. Sure, he was less than reliable this year, but players are not machines. He failed, but there are plenty of teams that would like to have 2009 Papelbon as their closer. If we are judging Youkilis on 3 games, what are we doing with Paps for 3 outs?
Sean’s THT article was dead on. The Sox defense quietly and not queitly in that series killed them. The 8th inning defense in Sunday’s game was horrible precisely on the 2 playes he mentions, and what should we make of Ellsbury’s defense in that series? It may have been the worse defense (or defensive positioning) I have consistently seen from a player over a span a games in a while. How does Aybar’s ball get over his head or by him-it didn’t even make it to the warning track on the fly, and it changed a 2-1 game to a 4-1 game late in game 2. Ditto on Vlad’s game winning single. Is it Ellsbury or coaching staff positioning?
The funny thing about baseball is things change year to year even with the same personelle. Injuries and fluctuations do this. In 2008 we were an excellent defensive team. In 2009 we were horrid. In 2009 the Angels had a team 322 BABIP and the Yankees got career years from 4 35+ players, excellent years from 2 37+ players, and near career years from Cano and Swisher. The Rays won 13 fewer games. Who knows about next year?
by Buzzy on Oct 13, 2009 7:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's boo BS
You used two or three of the same links as me in yesterday’s Laundry Without Blood Nor Sox/FanShots I created…
But I’ll let it slide … THIS TIME!
by Randy Booth on Oct 13, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My brain was so fried when I was reading that, my bad.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 13, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Varitek
And why are you so sure about Varitek? The team has a $5M club option, which most likely won’t be picked up, but ’Tek has a $3M option. All he has to do is say “Yup!” and he has a contract for next year…
by Randy Booth on Oct 13, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They can pick up the $3 mil option, but they can also cut him and eat the money
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Oct 13, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure they would do that
At least not to start the season. I expect Varitek to be with the big club for at least a couple months. If he is playing horrid, they could cut him. But imagine the bad PR if ’Tek picked up his option and the Sox immediately cut him? The FO would not do that.
by Randy Booth on Oct 13, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sort of like
Tek rejecting arbitration last off season ;).
by Buzzy on Oct 13, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't blame 'Tek for rejecting arbitration
Neither he nor The Great Scott Boras knew what they were getting into with the economy. On a normal year, no matter how bad ’Tek was, would have gotten a contract with some team.
by Randy Booth on Oct 13, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you can blame 'em.
I’m pretty sure the economy was on a bit of a downturn already. In any event, his numbers and his age spoke for themselves, regardless of the economy.
Goddamn that DeMarlo Hale.
by Bloggy on Oct 13, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if Boras didn't have some sort of idea of how the economy was shaping up...
Then his clients are stupid.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 13, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or gullible.
Agents seem to have this ability (especially Boras) to do this whole “don’t worry, I know what I’m doing, leave everything to me” kind of thing. Players seem to put such matters in their agents’ hands. Foolishly, yes…but there you have it.
Goddamn that DeMarlo Hale.
by Bloggy on Oct 13, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy still got $8M guaranteed with the team he wanted.
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Oct 13, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems to me he was estimated for 10 through arbitration.
Goddamn that DeMarlo Hale.
by Bloggy on Oct 13, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So they are stupid.
They trust this guy to get them as much as possible when he will focus on the big clients first and have no qualms with throwing smaller clients under the bus. They trust him to get them the most money and to give them security for years by reading the market and economy – and he failed horribly.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 13, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
People tend to put their trust in the "professionals" that they hire.
That’s regardless of the profession. Sports agent, lawyer, real estate agent (Go Mirabelli!!).
You contract these people and they tell you, “Trust me, I can get you a fat contract/better price on your house/a better plea arrangement/whatever”. People tend to trust them because that’s their job.
My uncle bought a business through an agent he had contracted in order to find a company for him to purchase. The guy showed him some numbers for this place…he bought it. Turns out the picture wasn’t as rosy as he was led to believe. He probably should have dug deeper, but trusted the guy a little more than he should have. Because the guy is working on a commission.
Same with agents. Ballplayer contract them to do this business shit because that’s their job and the players job is to hit the baseball (or in Tek’s case, swing at anything above the chin). So, you trust that they’re doing the right thing.
Is that “stupid”? Do you micromanage ever facet of your life?
Goddamn that DeMarlo Hale.
by Bloggy on Oct 13, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but when they're deciding on who to hire, seems kinda stupid to go with Boras now.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 13, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's had Boras forever
And considers him a “close friend”.
Goddamn that DeMarlo Hale.
by Bloggy on Oct 13, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Friends and business don't go well together, from what I've heard.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 13, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Varitek did very, very well for himself in his contract negotiations 5 years ago. He got much, much more from the Sox than any other team was willing to give him. Boras has done well for Varitek and for numerous others (JD Drew).
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Oct 14, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, maybe I need to reword it.
Unless you’re one of the premier players in baseball, it would probably be a good idea to avoid Boras, it seems to me.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 14, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt thats true.
But I have no way of proving it one way or the other, so whatever.
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Oct 15, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither do I, and I'm probably wrong...
Oh well, let’s move on.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 17, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
$3M for an experienced backup catcher with obvious leadership skills...
Seems like a decent deal even with his deteriorating ability. It doesn’t look like Kottaras or Brown will emerge as a better option, so we might as well keep him around while we hunt for another, better Catcher option than Martinez in the future (say, after next year when Lowell and/or Papi are done, Youk moves to 3rd and Martinez moves to 1st).
by dsharp on Oct 13, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Problems with this:
VMart would be an average hitting 1b at best, and Youk is a below average 3b and likely will be getting worse as he gets older and thicker. As for catching-I don’t see what value Tek brings at all. I want our backup guy to at least throw decently. I would take Wagner over Tek. At least he can throw and I don’t see how his hitting can be worse.
by Buzzy on Oct 13, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, one at a time...
1. VMart is an above average hitter even for a 1B.
2. Youk has very good range at 3B and has shown that at the other corner IF position.
3. Wagner .619 OPS at AAA had better have an Ivan Rodriguez arm if he’s going to unseat tek because that translates to a major league equivalence on average to a .166 BA with no power.
I don’t think Wagner’s the answer. I’ll keep Kottaras or Brown if that’s the case.
by dsharp on Oct 13, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so,
1. Victor’s wOBA this year was 14th for all qualifying firstbasemen. That seems to be right there in the middle. Also, this was the best offensive year of Victor’s career, so we definitely should not expect that to continue. His career wOBA is .360, which is probably what we should expect going forward. That seems pretty average to me.
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Oct 13, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
2. Youk’s range this year at 3rd:-2.8 in a sample 2 times as large as last year’s. One reason he was converted to 1b was that his body type does not project to be that of an agile 3b, especially as he ages.
3. Agree on Wagner’s offense-but what you described is Tek in the 2nd half: below 200BA and 1 HR. I am sure Wagner can do that, and he threw out 35-40% of runners in the minors. That is something that Kottaras and probably Brown cannot do-Kottaras for sure. He is probably the best defensive option they have in the minors, and did have an 887 OPS in AA ball in 09.
by Buzzy on Oct 13, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The difference between Tek and Wagner:
Wagner could well progress and grow. He’s expected to have a shit start in AAA and then start getting better, so he could well come out with a .800 OPS to start the season this year. And then you move him up to the majors and he slumps a bit and then either recovers or doesn’t. Seamless transitions are fairly rare, and if you can get a 40%+ CS% filling in as a backup at the single most offensively bankrupt position in the game at the same time as you deal with that transition, well, why not take it?
by USG on Oct 13, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by that time
by the time we have to worry about Lowell and Papi being done we will be able to use the money they were making and go out and get a better hitter. I dont see any reason to move Vmart to first unless we get a stud catcher…..like Mauer
by cnubsbl16 on Oct 13, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he can't catch 162 games a year.
If we want him to produce like he did with us, we’re looking more at maybe 100…
by USG on Oct 13, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it stirred up the discussion. :)
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 13, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a completely different topic-
Does anyone know the eta on:
a)Bedard
b)Sheets?
Bedard is so interesting to me. Sure, he always breaks down. Sure he has sort of a personality rep (he once walked to the podium to talk with the press and said “I will take 4 questions.” A reporter asked “Why only 4?” Bedard replied “That’s one.”). But the guy is nasty when he is on the mound. In a pitcher’s park in the AL East in 07 he dominated. Last year he had a low FIP and tRA and over 9K/9 in 83 innings, and he is a lefty. He is a type B and not old. He will not be expensive to obtain in a 1 or 2 year deal. The issue is-when can he pitch? He can’t start to throw until December at the earliest, and a labrum is not an easy thing to rush back from.
Sheets is another good talent who is always hurt. I like Bedard’s stuff better, and his AL resume, but Sheets is surely more league ready.
Thoughts? These are proposed 5’s since I assume Lester-Beckett-Buchholz-Matsuzaka is set already, and I expect that Wake at the most can’t be expected to last.
by Buzzy on Oct 13, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bedard had big-time surgery a few months back I believe
I don’t know if he’ll be ready or at least in fighting shape by Opening Day, but I could be wrong about that.
Sheets should be ready for next year.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Oct 13, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take a flyer on Sheets for the right price
Say, $5M base with performance bonuses for innings pitched? He still has good stuff when he’s healthy, and we would only really need him to stay healthy before Wake is ready to come back some time around the break.
by RSNexile on Oct 13, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus he's had plenty of time to recoup.
He should be ready from the get go unlike the other injury guys.
by USG on Oct 13, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rosenthal's reporting Tim Hudson will test free agency as well
He’s got “veteran” presence, so add his name to the list if it really happens (I think Rosenthal’s wrong on this one though) I guess.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Oct 14, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On Torii Hunter and Booing
I tried to post this on the Boston Herald site after I followed the link, but their website is slightly less than sucky…
There was a couple of comments there that called out Torii Hunter, and I just had to take issue:
Torii Hunter is a model human being first, a baseball player second, and an Angel third. “Hating” is not in his makeup, and saying that he hates the Red Sox or their fans is not only stupid, but just plain wrong. Torii is a consummate competitor and a gentleman who is revered by nearly everyone in baseball – players and management alike. Do some research and you will find this to be true. There is not a single Red Sox player who would say otherwise, not even Josh Beckett.
Torii has come to fully appreciate and expect his home-town fans to support him and his team-mates no matter the outcome. I’m not going to argue that the Angels don’t have their share of band-wagon jumpers just like the Red Sox; what I will argue is that he was appalled by the reaction of the fans toward one of the Red Sox most valuable players over the past few years, and simply stated so, nothing more.
by iGanja on Oct 13, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Most of us on here aren't mad about the outcome, but rather how he got to it.
Whatever mechanics changes he made were obviously hampering his ability to pitch effectively in the first part of the season, but he managed to fix them, or so it seemed, by the end of the regular season. Unfortunately, he apparently still has those issues.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 13, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or he blew a save.
Paps may have had a perfect ERA in the postseasons before hand, but he didn’t have a perfect ERA in EVERY game before the mechanics issues.
You know better than to trust a tiny f’ing sample size BS.
by USG on Oct 13, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going off the entire season here.
He was having issues at the beginning, and they popped back up again at the worst possible time.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 13, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon, BS.UF, think.
He has bad games during other seasons, they’re bad games.
He has a streak of bad games to start the season, it’s a mechanical issue.
He has a bad game show up out of nowhere at the end of the season, and all of a sudden it’s mechanics again?
by USG on Oct 14, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It could be.
He wasn’t getting a lot of work towards the end of the season, so maybe he started slipping back into the problems he was having?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 14, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mechanical or not
he will be much more successful going forward if he can regain command of a pitch other than his fastball.
by Buzzy on Oct 14, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The splitter was supposedly lost because of said mechanical change.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 15, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
This title better than Bloody Sox Laundry?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 13, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Better, but I'm not sure we're their yet.
How about “The Laundry List”?
Goddamn that DeMarlo Hale.
by Bloggy on Oct 13, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus. Are you kidding me?
Better, but I’m not sure we’re their yet.
THERE yet.
Goddamn that DeMarlo Hale.
by Bloggy on Oct 13, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Possibly.
I want to make it Sox-centric though…
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 13, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about:
Stinky Sox Daily Links
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Oct 13, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
D:
Don’t like how I do them, or just angry with the team?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 13, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The team.
I think you’re doing a great job with them.
They gonna stay daily in the offseason? or weekly?
"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw
by BTLove on Oct 13, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to try to keep it up daily.
There’s probably going to a couple days where it might be 2 links or no post at all though.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 13, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Dirty Water Filter?
Goddamn that DeMarlo Hale.
by Bloggy on Oct 13, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BAM.
Although it sounds familiar…
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 13, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not thinking of this, are you?
Goddamn that DeMarlo Hale.
by Bloggy on Oct 13, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda.
But that’s more of a concept, not a name. Plus, “Filter” makes it unique – you’re cool with me using this? Because I absolutely love it – you’ll get some form of props for it.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 13, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude! Knock yourself out!
Or…maybe put it to a poll. Cobble some other names together (“The Laundry List”, “Monster Shots”, whatever) and see what other people think.
Or, just use this one. Cuz I kinda like it, too. It’s amazing what my brain can do when I’m sober!!
Goddamn that DeMarlo Hale.
by Bloggy on Oct 13, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I'll just run with this one.
Trial and error – if nothing else, it will attract new readers to see what the post is about.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 13, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds good.
All I ask is that you profess your love for Alex Gonzalez.
Goddamn that DeMarlo Hale.
by Bloggy on Oct 13, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You drive a hard bargain, Mr. Bloggy.
Fine, I will thank him for giving us a seemingly impossible effort.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 13, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although, I think that folks could make the connection...
Sox —→ Laundry.
Goddamn that DeMarlo Hale.
by Bloggy on Oct 13, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Booing Pap
I think the furor over booing Pap is over blown. I think the fans were merely booing the situation. I don’t think it would have really mattered who blew the lead. It just happened to be Pap, so he was the one to get booed. I think Oki, or Bard, or Wagner or anyone else in the bullpen would have gotten booed if they had blown it. The people were angry that the lead was blown and they need someone to direct their anger at and Pap was the target. I think everyone needs to calm down a little. Thats just my two cents
by gta_killer on Oct 13, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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