Somehow, Red Sox Offense Even Worse in Game Two Loss
by Randy Booth on Oct 10, 2009 1:01 AM EDT
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I was thinking to myself this morning: "As bad as the Sox were last night in game one, it's impossible for them to be even worse."
Wrong.
The Red Sox's offense was even worse than game one (despite one run), losing to the Angels 4-1 on Friday night.
Where the hell has the offense gone? No. Don't laugh. I'm serious.
The Sox had four hits again for the second night in a row. The only run they scored was off a Jacoby Ellsbury triple. Victor Martinez knocked him in in the fourth inning to take the lead, but after that ... nothing.
Jered Weaver looked like Tom Seaver. He really didn't struggle at all with the Red Sox lineup. And why should he? The Sox are playing like a junior high squad at this point. It doesn't matter who the Angels throw out there, because in two games so far, everyone has handled the Sox without a problem.
Josh Beckett was pretty good until the 7th inning. He gave up some loud outs, but he got the job done. Then the 7th inning came around and he just unraveled. He couldn't hit the strikezone if he was 30-feet, 3 inches away from the plate. It's funny how he lost it, considering he hadn't walked a batter through the first three innings.
But runs, runs, runs. Bill Wagner came in (a little too late) and got out of the inning, but the damage had been done.
The Red Sox offense tried to get something started in the 9th, but nope. Kevin Youkilis doubled and Jason Bay walked, but they were stranded.
There it is: 4-1 Angels and they're up 2-0 in the series. All because of really, really bad offense. Jon Lester and Josh Beckett weren't even that bad. They weren't amazing, but their performances should have been good enough with just an average Red Sox offense. Instead, it goes in the books as two losses.
I never called game two a must win. It would have been nice to win, but it's not impossible to come back from a 0-2 hole. Actually, only four teams have ever come back down 0-2 to win a series. Two of those you might remember.
In 1999, the Red Sox did it. In 2003, the Red Sox did it. Can the Red Sox do it 2009, too?
Sure. Why the hell not?
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FAT CHANCE. Angels have finally exorcised their Red Sox demons.
by bravo218 on Oct 10, 2009 1:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'll be honest
i knew our first 2 starting pitchers were good…. but holy crap. i don’t think ANYONE expected this.
good luck back at home guys. game 3 should be a fun one…
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Oct 10, 2009 1:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not trolling here..
but I’m bothered by the “Red Sox fans only drink chowder thing.” I know you guys are famous for it, but many people outside of the North-Eastern drink it too. It’s like saying only Braves fans eat fried chicken. It’s ridiculuous Lastly, we don’t just eat salad…
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
by vlad IS my man on Oct 10, 2009 1:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
90 percent of red sox fans are from california.
As an angel fan, i enjoy chowder.
Its hearty and comforting.
Soup plantation chowder tastes like dogshit, however. My advice would be to avoid it.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Oct 10, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snow's is good.
The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com
by 44FAN on Oct 10, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I’m pretty sure they use the same pot the whole day and don’t replace till it’s empty
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
by vlad IS my man on Oct 10, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not going to lie
Disneyland has REALLY good chowder.
by TheAntiSox on Oct 10, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that they do, my friend.
that they do
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Oct 10, 2009 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait
please tell me more about drinking chowder…
ive been sipping it off a spoon for my entire life.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
by clover_black on Oct 10, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
some bowls I have were " made" for drinking
RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09
by vlad IS my man on Oct 10, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm vegetarian...
…. so no chowder for me :-(
by fenwaypark97 on Oct 10, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well ....... at least you have the Patriots!
Alas, an Angels series lead the size of Kevin Youkilis' head!
by PieceOfAase on Oct 10, 2009 1:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Alas -- as in the grieving, exasperated point of view of OTM fans everywhere
Soon, you’ll know the meaning of loss. Enjoy the silence.
Alas, an Angels series lead the size of Kevin Youkilis' head!
by PieceOfAase on Oct 10, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Angels always play well and score the most runs when
they play day games on weekends.
The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com
by 44FAN on Oct 10, 2009 1:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
boy, it gets mighty quiet around here after losses, no?
looks like all but 2 comments so far are by us HHers…
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Oct 10, 2009 1:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Its very late over there
But I would expect more on a friday night.
by TheAntiSox on Oct 10, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is fairly depressing.
I was busy getting the links ready for tomorrow, personally.
by USG on Oct 10, 2009 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
understandable
most of us were voicing our suicidal thoughts at this point last year, but you all are more than welcome to mourn in silence. ;)
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Oct 10, 2009 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YANKS RULE! Sux gone and Halos doomed!!!!
Okay — its just that everyone was beeing so cheezy nice here. WTF? Where’s my East Coast attitude?
by rosebud on Oct 10, 2009 1:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait
For Angels SP to stun the Yanks as well.
by TheAntiSox on Oct 10, 2009 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, going back to Fenway helps...
And at least we got a semi-lively conversation about chowder going on.
DFA Beckett
by South Coast Ghost on Oct 10, 2009 2:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Series Over
No way this team recovers. This is, by far, the worst post season team that we have fielded since the advent of the wild card.
by 75bandwagon on Oct 10, 2009 4:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Game is over !
Boston s hitter having frozen in their mind when approach on plate! Not this year!
by Craig O on Oct 10, 2009 5:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and ,,,
You didn’t see this coming all year?
by Old Fan on Oct 10, 2009 8:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We had stretches this season
where our offense looked nearly dead just as it does now perticularly on the road. Then we came back home and all of a sudden they showed up big time. We just have to hope it happens again. If we lose this series there is is enough time to mourn and shit, but until that happens: I still believe, I still have hope.
GO SOX
by German Red Sox Fan on Oct 10, 2009 8:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's objectively look at "hope"!
If the potential for the Sxo to do well is/was there, hope is appropropriate unitl the end because if the potential is released, presto! If the potential is/was NOT there, this hopefullness is a waste of time. So:
—Is the potetnial even there?
—If so, how is/could it be released?
—If it is not released, what will the postmortem say about that, or what do we do about a potential that was not released?
—If the potential was not there all along, as my Seattle barometer would seem to have indicated easlier, what to do in the future??
More on this later pending the final outcome!
by NG on Oct 10, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The truth is obvious
The Sox cannot hit good pitching. Oh, we beat up the Orioles and some crappy pitchers from other teams, but face it: a good pitcher makes us look terrible.
I’ve said it for two years: we have dead weight in Jason Varitek, David Ortiz and Mike Lowell. We have over-rated hitters like J.D. Drew and Jason Bay, who are talented but extremely inconsistent. We’ve have “musical chairs” at the shortstop position this entire century. All of these add up to too many poor offensive performances.
We’re still a very capable team overall, but not good enough to defeat good pitchers. Hopefully, the FO will correct this for next year.
by ccthemovieman on Oct 10, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was an..
article on Yahoo Sports a week or so before the playoffs started that actually supports this, regarding Red Sox hitters versus good pitching. The numbers weren’t very promising. And if I’m being objective they were downright awful, especially compared to other playoff teams.
by AJBlue7 on Oct 10, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen
Every time I put up a post like this I get lambasted, but it’s the truth and what I’ve been saying all year. Another problem this year has been our pitching. Too many 2 strike base hits and full count walks and not being able to end innings when we should (allowing runs to score with 2 outs). Beckett doesn’t have the command presence on the mound like he did in ‘07 and Lester still needs to give me a full season of consistent pitching. DiceK? Need I say more. Wake is an icon as far as the Sox go, and they will probably keep him around another season. He’ll have back surgery and he wants to hit some personal career milestones. I would let him go. We’ve been great at signing washed up pitchers in the past (Gagne, Smoltz, Penny)and none of them have panned out. Hell, even Reirdon (remember him?) imploded after he set the record for the most saves. This team needs a serious over haul if we plan on staying competitive in the coming years. Bringing guys up from the farm are great, but you have to go after and be willing to pay the money for the big name free agents. And if that means getting into a bidding war with the Yankess then so be it. It’s 2009 and baseball is big money. The Yankees proved that this year, and look where they are and look where we are. Finally, if we don’t plan on going that route and want to be more like the Twins and play scrappy lunch pale baseball (not there is anything wrong with that, but we won’t win the East) then we need to start seriously asking the question is Tito the right man for the job. I’m sorry, but he has really shown inadequecies managing this team this year. More specifically in the way he’s managed the starting rotation and the bull pen. I’ll get more into this after the season is over because if he gets his head out of his ass and motivates this team and they come back and win the whole thing – world series included- then I’ll eat my words just like the other critics. But right now he is starting to look a little ‘’Grady Littleish’’ to me. Let’s try and win 2 and take it back to Annaheim. Hope you’re feeling better Rem Dawg and it’s great to see Don and Eck on TBS.
by 75bandwagon on Oct 10, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i stopped reading your post
when you said we should start building like the yankees. our loss was terrible last night like it was the other night, but the complete ridiculousness and arrogance the MFY have this year, simply because they did what they’ve always done, spend lots of money, is finally panning out again. I’d rather continue our type of baseball than go down their path any further.
Also this is the post season, and you are bitching about players like Dice K, Wake and Tek, players who have not had any impact on our post season team and games, something I’m sure you, like myself, are grateful for. The regular season is over and whether you want to admit it or not, it was highly successful. We should be focusing on the problems at hand, which everyone can agree on is a putrid offense and will hopefully be cured by a return trip to Fenway.
Homer: Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.
by DougieWentDeep on Oct 10, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last time I checked...
the ALDS is not a 2-game series.
since 2003… the Sox are 13-3 elimination games…
plus… we’re back at Fenway!!!
Go Sox!!
by fenwaypark97 on Oct 10, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He Angels fans
I understand that 7 years of frustration might be enough to troll here and gloat(*). I can understand that. However the series is not officially over. Sure, it looks bad for the Sox, but you should understand that in 03 we came back from a 2-0 hole in the division series, in 04 a 3-0 hole in the ALCS, in 07 a 3-1 hole in the ALCS, and last year we forced a game 7 down 3-1 to the Rays even though we were losing 7-0 in the 7th inning of game 5. It does happen. In fact, if your manager didn’t make a crucial mistake in last year’s ALDS, the Angels would have forced a game 5 after losing the first 2 at home. If the Angels do choke this one away, names like howiestheman, clover_black, Vlad IS my man, etc will live in infamy in the Troll Hall of Fame.
(*)Even after being up on the Angels 2-0 in the last 3 series I don’t think there was a lot of gloating from Sox fans posting on HH…
by Buzzy on Oct 10, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's all you sox fans ever can talk about, the past, it's 2009 bud, get over yourself
Red Sox have a decent team but they just arent the same without all the roiders that got you your championships. Granted we had a couple on our 02 team, we didn’t have 8 or 9. It’s nice playing on an even playing field isn’t it. The curse ends Sunday son, sorry. Oh and my Broncos are gonna stick it to your beloved patriots this weekend too. Have fun this weekend!
by Broncangelus1 on Oct 10, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
Your whole team was on roids, from the MVP on down. And if the Angels do get by this series, the are going to get waxed in the next round anyway. Oh, and the Broncos…you mean the team that pulled one of the biggest regular season chokes in recent NFL history? Oh that team? Same will happen this year-they simply have no talent.
by Buzzy on Oct 10, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
scoring 1 run is not worse than scoring 0. It really is that simple.
by RickD on Oct 10, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah im confused
how Fri’s offense was worse…
Thurs: 4H, 1BB, 1R
Fri: 4H, 1 2B, 13B, 3 BB, 1R
so Fri’s was better (less bad?)
by fenwaypark97 on Oct 10, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoops...
I meant 0R on Thurs.. doesn’t change the suckiness of our offense
by fenwaypark97 on Oct 10, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got an idea
How about all you red sox fans get together and watch Fever pitch and eat some clam chowder together. Can you say frontrunners, cuz that’s what 90% of you are, bandwagon jumpers. I was at the game last night and of the 10 red sox fans I talked to about half of them had never even been to Boston. Now explain to me how that works, oh yeah, the bandwagon thing, right. Angels are a real team, with real fans, and real players. Enjoy the off season posers.
by Broncangelus1 on Oct 10, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Get that frustration out, brother. You have a great team this year and be proud of that. I’m a die hard Sox fan and was also at the game last night. We played like shit and you guys got the runs when you needed to. But you really need to show a little class and stop acting like a monday morning school yard kid who is bragging because his football team won the day before. Well, in this case it wouldn’t pertain to you because you have no NFL team where you live unless you’re a band wagon jumper to the Chargers. Good luck if you do end up winning the ALDS.
by 75bandwagon on Oct 10, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yo
Hey brother, you sound like you are apart of that 10% I was talking about which is great. Hats off to you, true sox fans know their shit, and love their team for the right reasons. But, your ignorant if you can’t admit that the red sox have the most bandwagon fans over any team in baseball, and those people make the rest of you look bad. I hope we get the win sunday but if we don’t it won’t surprise me. Please don’t talk about class tho, Sox fans can be some of the most arrogant fans their are and I’m sure youv’e had your moments yourself, as have I. By the way I am a die hard Broncos fan and hope the Chargers eat shit, Chargers fans are some of the softest fans in football. Good luck sunday for both your teams bro, your going to need it.
by Broncangelus1 on Oct 10, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are a moron
the fact that you call the one guy on this site who knows less about baseball than a Halos fan “a true fan who knows his shit” proof of that fact.
by Buzzy on Oct 10, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
backing the wrong horse
Homer: Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.
by DougieWentDeep on Oct 10, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Oct 10, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Hey brother,"
guys guys…a little respect for the Hulkster alright? Didn’t know you were an Angels fan Mr. Hogan. I think you need to go lift some weights, hit the beach, maybe beat a girl, rip your wife beater in half, whatever it is that helps you get that extra testosterone out. All that toughness can’t be good for the brain.
Homer: Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.
by DougieWentDeep on Oct 10, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not suprised
I’ve been expressing my concern about the offense before the playoffs started. This has been going on for a while (basically the entire season), dont know why it wasnt talked about more alarmingly before. The series is over and actually the Sox didnt even deserve to make it into the post season. Sad, disappointing but true.
by qthaballa on Oct 10, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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