The Jason Varitek Open Thread

I'm not so sure

I’m not so sure he’d get more than $5 M annually even if he wasn’t a Type A free agent.

This is the best deal out there Jason. Why are you dicking around?

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Jan 30, 2009 12:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jan 30, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

clearly have made a strong effort here and have shown him a lot of respect. They’ve gone further than any other team would have. I suspect that $5 million would be more than he’d have gotten offered without the Type A designation given how many guys are still out there (Dunn, Manny, Cabrera, Hudson, etc).

And yeah, Boras (and a lot of other agents) didn’t see this market coming.

by Danno11 on Jan 30, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

walkoff baltimore chop already said it better than I'll ever can

"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"

by MerryGoByeBye on Jan 30, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions 8 recs

Wow.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Jan 30, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Just. Wow.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Jan 30, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

First vote here

for it to be the new OTM logo.

"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"

by britsoxfan on Jan 30, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It just HAS to be

WBC deserves money for this. I mean, look at Tex. That’s amazing.

"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"

by MerryGoByeBye on Jan 30, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm pretty sure there's no money in the budget to do this.

I haven’t seen the “books” in awhile. Though, I’m pretty sure OTM’s books could be covered on a cocktail napkin. Randy can correct me if I’m mistaken about any of this. :)

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jan 31, 2009 3:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You get paid by the publisher to review books?

Sounds fishy.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 31, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

NO.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 30, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Seriously now

Just retire Jason. You’re in the club history, but that doesn’t mean we have to pay you more than you deserve. Just go away.

"Hey we got a lot in common here... I'm gonna rape you"

by MerryGoByeBye on Jan 30, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Can't wait for the explanation...

If this is all about feelinb that he “deserves” more than $5M… than he’s as greedy as many Sox fans have suspected. But If he’s simply fighting for the best deal possible while the Sox are willing to listen… then I don’t blame hit.

If you do sign with us Tek, don’t give us more “I thought I’d get traded or cut” crap… tell us what the hell you’ve been thinking all this time… and drop Boras for screwing this up for you.

The Bottom Line blog

by bottomlinesox on Jan 30, 2009 1:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

For cryin’ out loud, Tek, just make up your damn mind.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jan 30, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Rob Neyer: Measuring Varitek's defensive impact

This is from Neyer’s ESPN blog. Interesting stuff.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jan 30, 2009 1:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Admit it, Jason, they're just not into you

It’s definitely the Type A thing dragging him down, but it’s also his skill set. Heck, even Adam Melhuse got signed this offseason. Varitek wants more money than he’s actually worth.

I’m not sure if I can blame his agent. Everyone thought there would be endless drama about Prince Fielder going to arbitration but he signed a multi-year contract for potentially less than he could have got in arb. (It may have helped that Doug Melvin had another Boras client in the org that he needed to sign before the hearing, too…)

by morineko on Jan 30, 2009 1:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

The Red Sox are on the verge of a two-year deal with Varitek:

Link

"No... JD has been exposed as a kid who trades his remote-controlled helicopters for paper airplanes, then fails to consider the feelings of the paper airplane when he refolded it into a hat." -Telegraph.

by Kinslerhomer on Jan 30, 2009 2:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Tek and the Sox have agreed to a one-year contract with an option.

Link

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jan 30, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Fail. I should’ve Alt+F5’d the page before posting.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jan 30, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Good.

Despite my frustration with this situation and with Tek himself, I think this helps the Sox. Even if Tek is more or less done, it is useful to have him given that we don’t have much else.

by Buzzy on Jan 30, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

i dont want a varitek/bard combo though…i’d prefer it if we had someone he could take under his wing

Homer: Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

by DougieWentDeep on Jan 30, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Good

Now Texas can sit on their 80 major league ready catchers and rot away until they are willing to take a B prospect for one of them.

by SoxAcumen on Jan 30, 2009 5:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

This was the worst off season evah!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Red Sox #1 Fan on Jan 31, 2009 2:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Go be a MFY fan then.

Everyone else is happy with Theo’s mentality.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 31, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Who's (everyone else) everyone in the in the front office you stupid fuck

Where is the big bat that we still need? Where is the Catcher we still need? Its not like we don’t have holes still. You can’t bash Theo we didn’t win it all last year bub. Tampa Bay got better and the MFY’s got better we got older. Get Theo’s prick out of your mouth!

by Red Sox #1 Fan on Jan 31, 2009 6:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Stay classy dude.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jan 31, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

WTF?

We don’t need a big bat. We will still have one of the best offenses in the league, but we won’t have to get runs by smashing the ball out of the park. The offseason’s not over yet, so the young C may still be on the way. For now, having Tek platoon with one of Bard, Kotteras, or Brown won’t be that bad. If it was over, we’d still be a 90+ win team.

And I can’t even respond to the last part, because it makes no sense. I’m not bashing Theo, and we can’t win the WS every year. Tampa Bay got marginally better, and MFY’s picked up a bunch of overrated players that they’ll be stuck with way past their prime.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 31, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Um

The 2009 Red Sox are an improved team.

No, we didn’t go all out and the the big sexy names like Teixeira and Sabathia, but we improved our bullpen, bench, and #4/5/6 starting pitching. If Ortiz OR Lowell can be healthier than last year, our offense improves. I would argue that for the younger players on our team, the fact that “we got older” is a good thing. Ellsbury’s plate discipline should improve with the experience. Lowrie got his first look at major league pitching, and should be solid at the very least with a healthy wrist.

The sky is not falling my friend. Competition will be stiff, but we’ve got all the pieces to handle it and make a world series run barring a major injury to a key player. (knock on wood)

by Schulz on Feb 2, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Also, no need for name-calling.

by Schulz on Feb 2, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I've got it.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Feb 2, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So I can't figure out which is more insulting...

Bs telling him to go be a MFY fan, or RedSoxFan calling bs a “stupid fuck”

by BTLove on Feb 2, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, he solidified my suggestion by reciting from E-Coli's MFY Fan Book.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Feb 2, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs