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AL East: Yankees vs. Red Sox

OK, OTM has seemed dead lately, save maybe the discussions about who has the best rotation in the majors. I thought I'd write something that we could all comment on, agree and disagree. So I decided to compare the line-ups and rotations of the reborn Yankees and the Sox. I stole this idea from over here, when Dewey Finn wrote about the Rangers and Athletics prospects, except this will be about the Major-league roster.

Red Sox                            Yankees                            Advantage

SP Josh Beckett              CC Sabathia                      Yankees. Rematch of the 2007 AL Cy Young. I'm feeling CC will be able to adjust to the AL again in time to have at least a 15-18 win season.

SP Jon Lester                  Chien-Ming Wang             Red Sox. I have a feeling Lester will have a breakout year, finishing in the top three in Cy Young voting.

SP Daisuke Matsuzaka   AJ Burnett                          Red Sox. AJ is a major injury risk, as we all know, and Daisuke has been improving every year. If he lowers his walks, then he will also finish high in Cy Young voting.

SP Tim Wakefield             Joba Chamberlain         Yankees. NG: Tim Wakefield is washed up, IMO!

SP Brad Penny                   Phil Hughes                     Red Sox. Penny is only 30, remember. And he is two years removed from a 16-4 season.

 

And now the line-ups....

 

C George Kottaras            Jorge Posada                 Yankees. As of now.

1B Kevin Youkilis              Mark Teixeira                    Yankees. Barely.

2B Dustin Pedroia            Robinson Cano               Red Sox. Is this one even close? Didn't think so.

3B Mike Lowell                  Alex Rodriguez                 Yankees. A-Rod resides over the injured vet.

SS Jed Lowrie                   Derek Jeter                       Yankees. Jed-I is not ready to dethrone Jeter.

OF Jason Bay                    Johnny Damon                 Red Sox. New guy wins over traitor. Non-biased.

OF Jacoby Ellsbury           Melky Cabrera                  Red Sox. Jacoby will bounce back.

OF JD Drew                        Xavier Nady                      Red Sox. Ehh. Close one here. If JD stays healthy, then he'll get it.

DH David Ortiz                    Hideki Matsui                   Red Sox. Ortiz stays healthy, no signs of that wrist injury... it's all good.

 

So, final score:

Red Sox 8

Yankees 6

Call me biased, that is my opinion. Feel free to agree (or disagree, that is more fun) and give examples of what you would change.

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I take Beckett either tied or over CC because of playoff usefullness. It’s awfully nice to pitch well during the reg. season, but the playoffs are for the real players. Also, change Andy Petitte to Phil Hughes as while they may resign him, not yet…Chamberlain, I still agree that he may have the edge on Tim’May, but I don’t know enough about him as a starter. I think that Theo is learning from Hank’s mistakes by keeping Masterson in the bullpen for now. Chamberlain doesn’t throw enough strikes and can’t keep the velocity long enough to be a starter at Yankee Stadium; he’d be much more dangerous as a set-up for Mariano. But time will tell.

"We're not going to give up," It doesn't happen, so who cares? There's always next year. It's not like it's the end of the world."

by revigik on Jan 2, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks

I was unsure whether Petitte is a FA or still on the roster.

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Jan 3, 2009 6:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

George Kottaras

may be alot better than we all think. He did hit twenty dingers last year, and I’ve heard that since the David Wells trade he’s strictly been focusing on defense. But like revigik said, time will tell on that one. And I’m being comepletely serious when I say “push” for the first base position. One of the reasons I really hope Tek comes back is because he works so well with Dice-K, hopefully if he comes back another year Dice-K will feel even more comfortable to where he can easily pitch to anyone.

by DirtySouthSox on Jan 2, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Youk vs. Texeira

I’d say that’s even. And I think the Jed vs. Jeter matchup is really close, Jed did surprisingly well defensively, and although Jeter wasn’t as bad with the glove as he normally is, he still was below average.

by Gnick on Jan 2, 2009 11:14 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jeter vs. Jed

Jeter has tunred into a singles hitter, and is in the decline. He is still better than Lowrie, but not by a whole lot. If Lowrie’s nagging injury impacted his performance last year, it’s possible that the day he surpasses Jeter could come in the next year or two, as he improves and Jeter ages.

by Schulz on Jan 3, 2009 12:30 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The biggest questionmark for the yanks right now is a tossup between posada/jeter maintaining their ability to hit and CC being healthy after how many innings he’s been pitching over the past several seasons. If CC remains healthy then I’d give him an edge over beckett, but he’s going to break down at some point, and this could well be the year. If Youk can put together a year like last year, and teixeira’s numbers don’t improve to what he had a few seasons ago, then I’d honestly say that one’s a wash.

by Ashy on Jan 3, 2009 12:03 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree for the most part with everything you wrote but,

I have just a few issues. Penny pitched 95 innings to the tune of a 6.27 era and a 1.62 WHIP in the weakest division in baseball last season. There’s a reason he could only sign a 1 year 5 million dollar deal. Pettite is a horse who has pitched at least 200 innings in 10/13 years he’s been around. He’s an AL east vet whose peripherals last year were much better than his 14-14 record would indicate.Technically howeve,r andy isnt even signed so you would win by default, but I think Pettite should beat out Penny, and it really shouldn’t even be close. I’m on record saying I think Lester is a phenominal young pitcher, but his large jump in innings between 07 and 08 could be cause for alarm. Wanger was a back to back 19 game winner and well on his way to another good season (8-2) until his Lisfranc ligament was cruelly torn from his foot in a malicious attack by the astros’ basepath. Shit,, bobby abreu’s wall phobia (kind of humorous because the fenway RF fence is what 3 feet tall?) robbed him of a possible no hittah in beantown way back in april.
I also think that alot of the matchups are difficult to nail down due to weird circumstances. Dice-K had one of the luckiest seasons in the history of baseball last year which led to an awesome record. Is this a repeatable skill? History says no, but he could very well be a japanese houdini.. Burnett is another one thats hard to predict. I assume the yankees think his elbow problems are behind him and 08 was an indicator that he is fully healthy and ready to rock and roll. History however is not on his side either, hes only had 3 200Ip+ seasons out of 10 in the majors and two have conveniently come in contract years. My hope is that his elbow is fully healed from all those TJ complications, but we really wont know until the game are played. Youkilis is another tough one to try and predict. Stellar glove work is his card (that and the fugly ass goatee but ill leave that alone.. jk) but he had a breakout year with the stick in 08. A dramatic increase in both average and power, was it a fluke? a career year? the tip of the iceberg?? again, a tough guy to try and predict considering he will be 30 on opening day. Whats up with Robbie Cano? Contended for a batting title in 06, had a good but not spectacular season in 07 signed a bigass contract and was pretty crappy in 08. Supposedly he retooled his swing this season back down in the dominican and should be poised tor a comeback but talk is cheap. Dusty was obviously The Man in the AL this year, now he signed a big contract, probably won’t effect his play but it’s worth thinking about.. Anyway, it’s getting late and I’m rambling on very intriguing post though, 09 is gonna be a helluva season.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Jan 3, 2009 3:46 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's a Yankee fan.

We can’t expect too much out of him.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 4, 2009 8:06 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FYI

you end up looking more foolish for that poor attempt at an insult than I do for neglecting to put my rant into proper paragraph from.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Jan 5, 2009 5:16 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not an insult.

Just an observation.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 5, 2009 6:46 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also a reference to this:

http://www.overthemonster.com/2008/12/15/692567/how-to-be-a-yankee-fan

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 6, 2009 6:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My apologies for offending OTM's unflinchingly rigid devotion to proper grammar

I agree for the most part with everything you wrote but, I have just a few issues. Penny pitched 95 innings to the tune of a 6.27 era and a 1.62 WHIP in the weakest division in baseball last season. There’s a reason he could only sign a 1 year 5 million dollar deal. Pettite is a horse who has pitched at least 200 innings in 10/13 years he’s been around. He’s an AL east vet whose peripherals last year were much better than his 14-14 record would indicate.Technically howeve, andy isnt even signed so you would win by default, but I think Pettite should beat out Penny, and it really shouldn’t even be close.
 I’m on record saying I think Lester is a phenominal young pitcher, but his large jump in innings between 07 and 08 could be cause for alarm. Wanger was a back to back 19 game winner and well on his way to another good season (8-2) until his Lisfranc ligament was cruelly torn from his foot in a malicious attack by the astros’ basepath. Shit,, bobby abreu’s wall phobia (kind of humorous because the fenway RF fence is what 3 feet tall?) robbed him of a possible no hittah in beantown way back in april.
I also think that alot of the matchups are difficult to nail down due to weird circumstances. Dice-K had one of the luckiest seasons in the history of baseball last year which led to an awesome record. Is this a repeatable skill? History says no, but he could very well be a japanese houdini.. Burnett is another one thats hard to predict. I assume the yankees think his elbow problems are behind him and 08 was an indicator that he is fully healthy and ready to rock and roll. History however is not on his side either, hes only had 3 200Ip+ seasons out of 10 in the majors and two have conveniently come in contract years. My hope is that his elbow is fully healed from all those TJ complications, but we really wont know until the game are played. Youkilis is another tough one to try and predict. Stellar glove work is his card (that and the fugly ass goatee but ill leave that alone.. jk) but he had a breakout year with the stick in 08. A dramatic increase in both average and power, was it a fluke? a career year? the tip of the iceberg?? again, a tough guy to try and predict considering he will be 30 on opening day. Whats up with Robbie Cano? Contended for a batting title in 06, had a good but not spectacular season in 07 signed a bigass contract and was pretty crappy in 08. Supposedly he retooled his swing this season back down in the dominican and should be poised tor a comeback but talk is cheap. Dusty was obviously The Man in the AL this year, now he signed a big contract, probably won’t effect his play but it’s worth thinking about.. Anyway, it’s getting late and I’m rambling on very intriguing post though, 09 is gonna be a helluva season.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Jan 5, 2009 5:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indents? Maybe just spaces?

now I’m kidding. But its just hard to read something that covers so many subjects and is presented this way.

As for your content, I agree that there are a lot of question marks on both teams. While Dice had a lucky year, Beckett had an unlucky year. Don’t forget Lowell and Papi, our two best hitters in 2007, never showed up last year. You could do this all day for both teams, but the point is that anything can happen this year and I’m already itching for it.

by BTLove on Jan 5, 2009 8:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You left out some important aspects.

And those are the bench and the bullpen. Here’s how the BPs compare.
Red Sox: Papelbon, Masterson, Okajima, Ramirez, Delcarmen, Lopez.
vs.
Yankees: Rivera, Marte, Bruney, Albaladejo, Veras, Coke.

Sox have a big advantage in that category. As for the benches, the Red Sox haven’t really figured theirs out yet. I’m going to operate under the assumption that we resign Tek to play with Bard. Benches:
Red Sox: Bard, Bailey (?), Lugo, [4th OF, TBD]
vs.
Yankees: Molina, Swisher, Ransom, Gardner.

It’s hard to compare without knowing who the Red Sox might add. There has been talk of Baldelli, Byrnes, and some others. Time will tell, but at this point, Yankees have the advantage off the bench.

by Schulz on Jan 3, 2009 12:43 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The main reasons I didn't do the bullpens and benches is

1. I don’t a whole ton about the Yanks’ bullpen and bench and
2. The Red Sox (or Yankees?) are likely not done with trading and signing and whatnot, expect the Sox at least to sign a 4th OF and others.

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Jan 3, 2009 6:53 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Byrnes

That would be so awesome! Except for the fact that we’d be paying our outfielder what? $20M? But it would be good to get rid of Lugo and Byrnes would fit in with guys like Papelbon, Pedroia, etc.

by DirtySouthSox on Jan 3, 2009 2:15 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Without reading through all this drivel I'm pretty sure you left a team off your headline

Hint they have a better 1-5 rotation than your team, and they beat you in one of the better series in a while last season.

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Jan 5, 2009 4:01 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was going to add in the Rays

Really. But I didn’t know how that would work; would I take the winner of the Red Sox-Yankees and compare it to the Rays, or choose the best of the three at each position? You can compare the Rays and any team you like back on DRB, thank you. And I am praying for another Rays-Red Sox series, when Lowell and Lowrie are not hurt, and Papi is back to 100%. I figured on just doing this head-to-head because they have added the big names for big bucks. We are still better (Enter Yankee trolls)

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Jan 5, 2009 5:04 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just came to debate off-season acquisitions and the snubbing in your discussion

of the 2008 AL Champions. Of course if you want me to leave I would hate to wear out a welcome. For now know that that sinking feeling your stomach will only get worse as you realize that Lowell is done, Lowrie is nothing, and Papi needs to lose 30 pounds to get his swing back. You are better than the Jays and the O’s (for now). Good luck with Nick Green he is what you thought he was.

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Jan 6, 2009 4:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Umm...

Lowell will be 100% by April, according to the doc’s. Lowrie did pretty damn well for having a broken wrist (unlike your 3B who sat out his injury), and Papi’s issue was with his wrist. His knee is completely healed.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 6, 2009 5:31 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Yanks v. Sox debate will always go on,

even if we are 4 and 5 in the division. Its not that we don’t think that the Rays are good, they are good. Its that we don’t really care that much. Maybe in a bunch of years, after a few more seven game postseason series and a few more pennant wins, we might start caring more about you guys. When we finish ahead of the Yanks it means a lot more than finishing ahead of you guys.

by BTLove on Jan 6, 2009 5:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When we finish ahead of the Yanks it means a lot more than finishing ahead of you guys.

Luckily you probably won’t have to worry about either for awhile.

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Jan 6, 2009 7:02 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cause we'll be in first!

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 6, 2009 7:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sandy, you do realize that if neither of those things happen...

We’d be ahead of y’all, and so would the MFY. So either of us would be in 1st (unless the Jays or O’s go crazy). Did you make a typo or are you having doubts about your team?

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 6, 2009 7:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And people wonder why the Florida education system

consistently ranks so low.

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Jan 6, 2009 9:05 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, the irony.

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Jan 7, 2009 6:58 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not seeing what's wrong with my logic.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 7, 2009 7:33 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For Sandy.

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Jan 7, 2009 7:59 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh...

I guess I could turn his comment on him, since I’ve only lived in Tampa for 5.5 years of my life, which would place more blame on South GA (an actually realistic blaming) or West Texas (maybe a few too many lesson plans with basic English words and their Spanish translations). Sandy, are you perhaps the product of our fine school system?

Also, blame FCAT and SSS, not the teachers, in case you were planning that.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 7, 2009 8:16 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you guys serious?

Lets break this down:

“When we finish ahead of the Yanks it means a lot more than finishing ahead of you guys.”

You stated that finishing ahead of the Yanks means a lot to you. It means even more than finishing ahead of the Rays.

I retorted:

“Luckily you probably won’t have to worry about either for awhile.”

Meaning that you won’t have to worry about finishing in front of either team for the foreseeable future.

Am I missing something? I know bs is full of it, but I don’t know you BoSox415. Seeing as the more respectable minds on this board have not chimed in I will take that as agreement.

As for my education I came from a small school in rural, upstate NY. Even the dropouts from that podunk school could decipher this enigmatic riddle. As far as the fuct status of Florida “Education” I would lay the blame at budget cuts and a general lack of direction by administration. That and the massive overcrowding that occurs at most public schools because for some reason people like a little sun with their winter.

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Jan 7, 2009 9:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not that I'm claimin to be "respectable,"

but there’s a reason they play the games.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jan 7, 2009 10:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK

This whole thing is way off-topic. Say this whole spending spree of the Yankees happened last year, before anyone knew the Rays would be any good. I still would have written this post. And, as BTLove said, The “Yanks vs. Sox debate will go on even if we are 4th and 5th in the division.” I didn’t mean to offend the Rays or their fans in any way.

And the “Oh, the irony” thing is basically because a Tampa Bay fan is calling themselves dumb. See, if you directed that at bs, then you would hurt yourself at the same time, unless you don’t live in Florida.

And for the record, I live in Florida too, but go to a private school.

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Jan 8, 2009 6:28 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Florida schools do suck.

And some Rays fans are morons who know absolutely nothing about baseball. The latter isn’t much different from any given population, but people act like that’s taboo to say.

by R.J. Anderson on Jan 9, 2009 10:19 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can guarantee you the MFY have an insurmountable lead in that race.

I can hear the clock ticking and my heart beating. I can see individual pixels of the TV picture. I can hear the caution in the opponent's voice. I can smell the fear in the sweat of the opponent's fans. I can taste... THE CHAMPIONSHIP. I AM IN CHAMPIONSHIP MODE.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 9, 2009 10:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's not directly proportional.

The better the Yankees do, the more fans jump on. But, the better they do, the larger percentage of the bandwagon fans they gain that know NOTHING about baseball. As in: “He hit out of the park? Why is the ump saying no and pointing to the big yellow pole?”

I can hear the clock ticking and my heart beating. I can see individual pixels of the TV picture. I can hear the caution in the opponent's voice. I can smell the fear in the sweat of the opponent's fans. I can taste... THE CHAMPIONSHIP. I AM IN CHAMPIONSHIP MODE.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 9, 2009 11:14 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aww crap.

Sorry, didn’t realize the title line was a quote from the above comment. My apologies.

I can hear the clock ticking and my heart beating. I can see individual pixels of the TV picture. I can hear the caution in the opponent's voice. I can smell the fear in the sweat of the opponent's fans. I can taste... THE CHAMPIONSHIP. I AM IN CHAMPIONSHIP MODE.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 9, 2009 6:09 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For your enjoyment, I'll make fun of myself.

I guess I need my eyes checked again, see if I need even thicker lenses on my glasses (approaching Coke bottle glasses by now). I need some damn money to get Lasik.

I can hear the clock ticking and my heart beating. I can see individual pixels of the TV picture. I can hear the caution in the opponent's voice. I can smell the fear in the sweat of the opponent's fans. I can taste... THE CHAMPIONSHIP. I AM IN CHAMPIONSHIP MODE.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 9, 2009 6:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More seven game playoff series?

How about more Julian Tavarez b-slaps to Carl Crawford? Or more Johnny Gomes beating the crap out of Coco Crisp?

by DirtySouthSox on Jan 7, 2009 2:27 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tavarez "fought" Joey Gathright

Julian is lucky he isn’t a car or he might have been jumped over. I will miss Gomer, but Pat B could be our new enforcer, and if we get Kapler we might roll them out on a Bash Brothers line like the Mighty Ducks.

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Jan 7, 2009 9:47 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Burrell goes from the plate to the mound in like 15 seconds.

An enforcer has to a little quick, at least.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jan 7, 2009 9:58 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great point

What if we got him a segway for dugout to mound beatdowns. maybe put a couple of spears on the front or something. You guys can do the same for J. D. so he doesn’t have to worry about hurting himself going from dugout to RF.

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Jan 7, 2009 11:42 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kapler?

No. No way is Kapler participating/perpetuating/agreeing on fighting the Sox. Not after the Arod-Arroyo fight where Kapler and Ortiz (Degeneration X style) gave Tanyon Sturtz a bloody eardrum. That kind of camaraderie doesn’t grow on trees. If the situation arose, Kapler would be like, “Screw it. I’m staying in the dugout.”

by DirtySouthSox on Jan 7, 2009 6:27 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sounds like a plan.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 7, 2009 7:34 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Roy Halladay can't pitch for every rotation spot.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 5, 2009 6:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're still dumb

It is funny that even your mates on this board make fun of you. Can’t wait to see Tebow lose it on Thursday. What bandwagon you jumping on next, Colt McCoy? Perhaps Brian Boitano is a better fit funboy.

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Jan 6, 2009 4:44 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Huh?

I’m not a bandwagoner, I think we’ve established this. And it was a joke.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 6, 2009 5:29 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And everyone makes fun of me.

Hell, I make fun of me.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 6, 2009 5:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Season Series

When is the last time the Red Sox have beaten the Yankees in the season series?
Last year the Yankees were 9-9 against the Sox and 11-7 against the Rays. We finished in 3rd place. IN THE BEST DIVISION IN BASEBALL. You can finish in third place in the AL East and be the third best team in the league. Which they were. Without Wang, without Joba pitching every 5th, without C.C., and without Posada. We improved on defense, got younger, and gave up nobody! Yeah I think we might be able to hang.

I see things you don't see.

by LouieTheLip on Jan 10, 2009 3:09 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"and gave up nobody"

How about Giambi and Abreu, your 2nd and 3rd best hitters last year? Forget about those guys? You replaced Giambi with Tex, an upgrade, but who is starting in the OF? Can Posada catch every day? there are a lot of questions left about your team.

by BTLove on Jan 10, 2009 5:10 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, now you know how the Patriots feel....

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Jan 10, 2009 9:21 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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