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Red Sox 'intensifying talks' for Miguel Montero

Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald reports that:

According to one baseball source, the team has been intensifying talks with the Arizona Diamondbacks concerning 25-year-old catcher Miguel Montero. The Red Sox still believe that the price for gifted Texas Rangers catcher Jarrod Saltalamachia is too high because it still includes pitcher Clay Buchholz. The Diamondbacks are not believed to be asking for Buchholz, making a return package of pitching that could include Michael Bowden and/or Daniel Bard feasible.

Can anybody tell me more about Montero? All I know is that he's a promising prospect, but how's his defense and bat? 

The article also mentions that this potential trade would not preclude the Sox from signing Vartiek.  I think most people agree that he would have a positive influence on any young catcher while getting slightly less than half of the playing time.

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Honestly he is ‘meh’ from what I’ve seen live, but his numbers are somewhat legit for a catcher and is steadily showing improvement. I would take a waiver on him if all it takes is Bowden or Bard.

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by SoFa King Mike on Jan 12, 2009 1:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’m not a big fan of Montero, but the Sox obviously see something, so…

by Randy Booth on Jan 12, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not either.

But if Theo likes him, he must be worth it.

In Theo We Trust!

The rhythm is the bass and the bass is the treble

by DirtySouthSox on Jan 12, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If we don't give up Bowden on this, it's an amazing trade

Bard + lower level guys, not sure if Zona would do it, but it would be terrific.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Jan 12, 2009 2:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What about Masterson?

Personally, I value Bowden higher than Masterson. What about a straight-up swap?

by Schulz on Jan 12, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like Masterson

only bc he has proven he can pitch in big game situations, but to be honest I would not give up either for Montero.

Pitching > catching.

by SoxAcumen on Jan 12, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Masterson straight up for Montero would be fine as well

Masterson or Bard have to be the center of the package, if there’s a package at all.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Jan 12, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think they need more relief pitching.

Unless they lost Lyon for good. They still have Max Scherzer, unless he was traded (they were shopping him earlier, IIRC).

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 12, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lyon is a FA and he will not resign. Scherzer is in the rotation.

by SoxAcumen on Jan 12, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh.

Hmm… then maybe they do. My bad.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 12, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

scherzer got moved to the rotation after R. Johnson left.

by SoxAcumen on Jan 12, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Got it. Thanks.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 12, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wait

So is Scherzer in the rotation now or something?

by Gnick on Jan 12, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He Should Be

Scherzer’s biggest problem has not been going deep into games. I know he has filthy stuff, so he’s either not pounding the strike zone enough, or his control needs more work. Either way Scherzer should be a starter.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Jan 13, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just a thought...

And this is rank speculation based on nothing but my own personal musings. So, basically what passes for professional sportswriting…

But mightn’t the Sox potentially be better off going with ‘Tek, Bard & Minor League Assortment this year, and see if Mauer comes up in a trade? Mauer’s a proven catcher, and the Twins might want to trade him, depending on how the team is treated in Polhad’s estate. I’d rather give up Bowden (or even Buccholz maybe) & Bard + for Mauer than hazard a top pitching prospect on a relatively unproven catching prospect.

Obviously, its a scenario rife with “what ifs,” but Mauer’s a high-percentage OBP guy who can remain behind the plate, and I believe the Sox F.O. has already indicated interest, if not extreme interest in him. Additionally, of the “high value/high payroll” teams, we’re one of two with a catching opening (NYY: J. Montero and the corpse of Poasada; LAA: Napoli, Mathis & Conger; LAD: Martin; CWS: Douchezynski; CHC: Soto; SFO: Posey; ATL McCann; TEX: Assorted; SEA: Johjima & Clement). And we have a better farm than the Mets. Besides which, if Mauer doesn’t become available, we can deal for Montero then…

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by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 12, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

*

I usually sound more literate than that.

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 12, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think there's a strong possibility

that NYY would outbid us on Mauer after the ’10 season.

Posada’s contract is up to ‘11, so they could easily stash him at DH/1B backup or platoon him with Mauer for a year. Jesus Montero is still a teenager, so he won’t be up for a while.

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by britsoxfan on Jan 12, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Red Sox

can pay whatever Mauer wants and even outbid the Yankees. Our money is just as good as the Yankees and with the added money from Japanese fans, the Sox have plenty to offer Mauer $25-30 million/year and not affect their payroll in the slightest.

Pujol and Mauer will get 25 million + to whomever signs them.

by SoxAcumen on Jan 12, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Always a possibility...

On the plus side, though, he’s not a Boras client.

I think a trade might be a better option for us. In the talent market, we’re the equivalent of the Yankees (or possibly the Mets, Dodgers or Usses), while the Yanks are the Royals. Obviously, the Twins would ask for everyone from Anderson to Buchholz, but I wonder how much it might really take to pry him away.

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 12, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point about the trade.

It’s the only way we could outbid the Yankees. And yes, they would go higher than us. Much higher.

"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"

by britsoxfan on Jan 12, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As a silver lining to that very dark cloud...

… Congress might be forced to invoke is jurisdiction, pursuant to MLB’s anti-trust exemption, and pass a law naming them the New York Douchebags (apparently my word of the day). They’d have, what?, five of the largest contracts in the majors?

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 12, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just curious

why do you think that Yankees can spend more than the Red Sox? Yankee have a $220 million + payroll and will have to sign at least 2 OFs in the next 2 years + a catcher, a closer, another arm for the rotation and bullpen.

Red Sox have many resources and most of their roster being young talent who have not hit arbitration yet.

Red Sox can pay a player $50 million a year and still turn a profit. So can the Cubs and Mets and most likely the Dodgers and Angels.

Red Sox did not lose Teixeira bc they could not pay him the money he wanted, they chose not too pay him.

by SoxAcumen on Jan 12, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Two things:

1) no salary cap
2) Steinbrenner left his money in the wrong hands. Hank will stop at nothing to win. In a few years, they will easily reach $500mil.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 12, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also

Matsui – $13 million
Damon – $13 million

Both contracts are up after 2009

Rivera’s $15 million contract is up after 2010, and Jeter’s $21 million (final year – $20 million per from 2007-2009) contract ends the same year. Posada’s $13.1 million per year is gone after 2011.

They’ll be shedding payroll.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jan 12, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Assuming they don't pay Pujols and Mauer $50mil each.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 12, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They’ll have the money if they want to—except they have Teixeira at 1B.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jan 12, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pujols can play wherever he damn well pleases, sir.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 12, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The discussion on both Pujols and Mauer is pointless at this point

As far as we know, they’re not going anywhere.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Jan 12, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Since Pujols's value was $40mil last season...

it seems only the MFY will be able to afford him.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 12, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pujols

Will absolutely not leave Saint Louis. Don’t even think about him becoming a FA at all, he’s invested too much into the community and he is probably the most famous person in the city. Pujols will take a relative discount to stay, and the Cardinals will not shy away from offering him $25 million a year.

by Gnick on Jan 12, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

As for Mauer, it is unlikely that he leaves the Twins. He grew up in Minnesota and enjoys playing there. The Twinkies obviously love him too.

by Schulz on Jan 12, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Only person talking in that conversation's the whip.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 13, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Got to say, I disagree.

The Twins could’ve locked up Santana, who would have been a better bet going forward than a big catcher – but didn’t. I don’t expect them to extend Mauer.

"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"

by britsoxfan on Jan 13, 2009 3:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They'll at least try

And Mauer may be willing to take a big discount.

by Schulz on Jan 13, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why would Mauer take a discount?

But sure, they’d try.

"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"

by britsoxfan on Jan 13, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

He’s a life long Twins fan, and enjoys playing there (I think he’s crazy).

by Schulz on Jan 13, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Minneapolis is actually a pretty lovely city

Call me crazy, but I like there too.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Jan 13, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well they do have the

Mall of America…

The rhythm is the bass and the bass is the treble

by DirtySouthSox on Jan 13, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Shh...

that’s the only reason I can get my Mom and Sis to go. I plan on going to a Twins-Sox game while they’re there. :)

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 13, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Talks about Pujols as a FA are silly, really. St. Louis wouldn’t ever let him go.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Jan 12, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

To me that's sort of the same thing.

The Red Sox set spending limits, and limits to the numbers of years in a contract. For all our wealth, we are generally pretty careful about our spending.

Also, recently either Theo or JWH (anyone know which?) said words to the effect that we wouldn’t be pursuing big-name free agents in the future.

The Yankees will identify a player they want, and take him on at whatever the cost, whatever the duration. That’s their business model. It’s absolutely not ours.

"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"

by britsoxfan on Jan 13, 2009 3:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree

with your comparison. My point was simply the Red Sox have the $$$ if they really want Joe Mauer and he wants to play for the Red Sox, nothing will stop them, not even the Yankees and their unlimited check book.

In the end, if Mauer leaves Minnesota, which I agree might not even happen, Mauer will decide where he wants to play and the money will be equal or close enough not to be the major factor.

Teixeira wanted to play for the Yankees, the Red Sox did not believe he was worth the money he was asking.

by SoxAcumen on Jan 13, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Understood.

"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"

by britsoxfan on Jan 13, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i think shoppach would be a better option and had for less.

by matzushocka45 on Jan 12, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

If only Theo saw it like us.

by Charged on Jan 12, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He's too old.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 12, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think

he just signed a one year, $10M with the Indians

The rhythm is the bass and the bass is the treble

by DirtySouthSox on Jan 12, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

10 million?!?!

He signed a 1 year 1.9 million if I recall correctly, and that was just to avoid arbitration

by Charged on Jan 12, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My goodness

You’re right, I guess I read that wrong on ESPN Bottomline. That’s quite a difference

The rhythm is the bass and the bass is the treble

by DirtySouthSox on Jan 13, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like this move. While he’s not as talented as Salty, if he comes at a cheaper price and doesn’t force us to give up Buchholz, he should do well. Theo probably likes him because he’s young, relatively cheap, left-handed, and hits for above-average power for his position. He’s followed his PECOTA projection pretty closely (projected numbers last season: .270/.336/.490—Actual numbers: .255/.330/.435), he’s under 25, and he projects to keep his average around 270, with his SLG above 500, for years to come.

His defense is crap, but whichever veteran we sign to fill out the catching position ought to help, Varitek or otherwise. If you all remember, Tek wasn’t a very good defensive catcher at age 24 either.

Straight outta HP. Go MDC!!!
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by alfonzo on Jan 12, 2009 5:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Bowden is involved

From the Arizona Republic:

We’re hearing the Diamondbacks aren’t getting the impression that the Red Sox are zeroing in on catcher Miguel Montero. The clubs are still talking — or maybe we should say they are again talking — and the Sox have tweaked their offer, but it apparently is not to the point where satisfies the Diamondbacks. The sides had discussed a Michael Bowden-for-Montero deal earlier this off-season, but Boston wouldn’t part with its highly regarded pitching prospect.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Jan 12, 2009 6:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but that was before the MFY Shopping Spree, IIRC.

You never know how much of an impact that will have on our FO.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 12, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

but it was also before the Red Sox signed their FAs as well. I would expect the Red Sox to hold Buchholz, Bowden and Masterson. There are bigger targets out there than a backup catcher.

Montero is not worth a stud young arm.

by SoxAcumen on Jan 12, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

Sign Tek for the same production in a platoon w/ Bard – and Tek can mentor any catcher we decide to bring in.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 12, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Then that begs the question

Who will catch for Wake if he is even in the rotation?

by Charged on Jan 12, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tek.

He did it in the late 90’s, but didn’t continue once he was the full time catcher because it takes a lot out of him.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 13, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My choice would be George Kottaras

Screw Bard. Who doesn’t want a Greek-speaking Canadian to be catching knuckleballs?

The rhythm is the bass and the bass is the treble

by DirtySouthSox on Jan 13, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bard could be our catcher for the next 5-7 years.

Assuming he heals up.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 13, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Closer to the 5 side then.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 13, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bard

I don’t want Josh Bard to ever start a single game for us.

by Gnick on Jan 14, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You going off how he did with us the first time around?

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 14, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No impact.

You have to believe the FO is more sophisticated and more tempered than to make kneejerk moves…

"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"

by britsoxfan on Jan 13, 2009 3:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i think masterson is the odd man out if we trade any pitching.

by matzushocka45 on Jan 12, 2009 7:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It would appear so.

Buch has the front office still drooling buckets, and Bowden seems to be the #5 starter behind Lester, Becks, Dice-K, and Buch (<—- if he makes it). Bard might be go too, depends if the suitor wants a power arm or efficient arm for the pen/rotation.

For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 12, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not big on Montero

Minors: .291/.356/.467 = .823 OPS career minor league, 153/261 (BB/K)
2007: .224/.292/.397 = .689 OPS in 214 ABs, 20/35 (BB/K)
2008: .255/.330/.435 = .765 OPS in 184 ABs, 19/49 (BB/K)

Last year Montero’s average and OBP went up, but he started hacking more as you can see by his BB/K rate. His 2007 BB/K rate is more in line with his minor league career numbers, so maybe 2009 will show improvement in that category.

Miguel Montero has been very forgettable at the plate at the major league level. I would put Montero’s ceiling at his minor league numbers, but I’m not convinced that he’ll be able to achieve those in the majors. I don’t know a whole lot about his defense, but is this really a guy that we want to give up a top pitching prospect for? Not in my mind! If we’re going down that road I’d rather deal Buchholz to the Orioles in a package for Weiters.

The Red Sox should stand pat if Montero is the only option.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Jan 13, 2009 9:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Wieters is going anywhere.

He’s considered by some to be the top prospect in all of baseball. Maybe for Dusty they would do it.

by BTLove on Jan 13, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure he's not going anywhere

But, really, no player is untouchable. The price would just be very high.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Jan 13, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And my main point is

That I don’t like trading a good, pitching prospect for Montero. I’d make an exception for A-ballers, but I expect the D-backs are looking for a little more.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Jan 13, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No chance

The Orioles part with Weiters. They’ve been loving that kid up and are most likely going to call him up at some point, possibly at the end of this season to see what he can do. They got rid of Ramon to make room, and I seriously doubt Greg Zaun is going to be blocking that kids way. He’s been destroying the minors, I forgot who was ranking it, but I believe I saw him ranked as the number 2 prospect in the majors. The Orioles are going to try to build around him, Markakis and possibly Jones as well. My brother is an O’s fan and the only time I’ve seen him speak positively about his team recently is in regards to that player.

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by DougieWentDeep on Jan 13, 2009 9:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

possibly

i didn’t realize he was 23 this may, i thought he was younger than that. I am jealous my brothers team has him though.

Homer: Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

by DougieWentDeep on Jan 13, 2009 10:29 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Crasnisck on the trade.
The biggest item left on Boston’s agenda is finding a catcher to share time with Bard. While the Red Sox have talked to Texas about its catching surplus and to Arizona about Miguel Montero, one source familiar with the situation said the Montero discussions are “not as lively as the Internet would make it seem.”

Good read, though. First national coverage I’ve seen discussing all the Sox recent moves.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jan 14, 2009 4:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Offseason delerium (possibly dating self)

After four days of looking at “talks intensifying,” all I can think of is a G.I. Joe cartoon serial, wherein COBRA has stolen the plans for the top secret government Talks-Intensifier – allowing them to sign any free agent. Now its up to the G.I. Joe teams to race COBRA around the globe to locate the components of the Talks-Intensifier, which are hidden in various ruined temples and remote locales.

Starring Dustin “Gung Ho” Pedroia, David “Grand Slam” Ortiz, J.D. “Clutch” Drew, Jon “Ace” Lester, Josh “Ace” Beckett, Jonathan “Snake-Eyes” Papelbon and Jacoby “Flash” Ellsbury as the G.I. Joe Team. Also featuring Jason Varitek as Duke, Heidi Watney as Scarlett, Jason Bay as the New Guy, John Smoltz as the Grizzled Veteran and Theo Epstein as the Boy Genius

Versus:

A.J. “Garter Snake” Burnett – with removable shoulder and elbow action;
Captain Intangibles – Apparently a reference to his defense;
AFraud and Robodouche – the Bionic Evil Twins, whose robotic hearts monotonously pump a Kool-Aid like substance at 30 beats per minute;
Joba the Hutt – action figure includes a bottle of sweat which cures cancer; and
Cobra Cashmander – capable of amazing feats, like missing the playoffs with an annual payroll north of $ 200 million.

Only 28 days until pitchers and catchers!

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Jan 15, 2009 11:53 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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