Sox sign Saito
by Gnick on Jan 10, 2009 12:20 PM EST
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Continuing our flurry of recent moves for once great, recently injured pitchers, the Red Sox have signed Takashi Saito to a 1yr/1.5mil contract that could reach 7mil if he pitches well. The team also included an option for 2010.
In my mind, this is a great move. Saito has always been dominant when healthy, it's not like he has a long history of injury. If he fails, he's not taking up much money at all. And if he succeeds we have a 2010 option on him. Overall, great signing, the bullpen is going to be nasty if everyone remains healthy.
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We are so deep . . .even if one of these guys busts . . .our bullpen will be so deep and so will the sox starting rotation . . . wow
by Ace0407 on Jan 10, 2009 12:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Happy dance?
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 10, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He was dominant when healthy
Great move.
Mother---- him and John Wayne!
by MerryGoByeBye on Jan 10, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
IF healthy, can dominate
just like Penny & Smoltz
great arms with proven success
I love the possibilities of the entire staff
It’s gonna be fun to watch!
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy."
- Dodgers, Astros, Brewers, A's & Angels pitcher Don Sutton
by CubFreak on Jan 10, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
IF
in our pen we have
Lopez (who is so underrated)
Delcarman
Oki
Rameriez
Masterson
Saito
and Pap
It will be the best in the majors!!!! Assuming they stay healthy.
by 12trguitar on Jan 10, 2009 1:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lopez is UNDERrated? I don’t know about that…
by Randy Booth on Jan 10, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he is
I mean, he’s had his share of bruises, but he’s a great situational lefty and pretty much usually gets the job done.
by DirtySouthSox on Jan 10, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure he even deserves to be rated…
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Jan 10, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Leave my avatar alone.
"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"
by britsoxfan on Jan 10, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a pretty bangin’ avatar, Brit. Why on earth would you make that?
by Randy Booth on Jan 10, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Boredom.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 10, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The voices in my head told me to.
"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"
by britsoxfan on Jan 11, 2009 4:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Javier Lopez
should be dealt ASAP. A lefty who cannot get lefties out…not my favorite player.
by SoxAcumen on Jan 10, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
We need a better LOOGY.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 10, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or LOIGY.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 10, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was
hoping the Sox would dump Lopez and sign Affeldt this offseason, or trade for Mahay.
Poor Okie, he is our only lefty =(
by SoxAcumen on Jan 10, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He turns the other cheek to this type of discrimination.
Also, to batters. :)
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 10, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, probably. But I could put a poll on the front page to see the real stats? haha
by Randy Booth on Jan 10, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know...
I was just looking at the roster, and I think he’ll probably get dumped so the Sox can make room for Smoltzie in June or whenever he’s ready to go. That’s when I’ll hold a funeral service.
by DirtySouthSox on Jan 10, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
2006-2.70 ERA, 2007-3.10, 2008-2.47. Those are pretty telling numbers if you ask me…
"We're not going to give up," It doesn't happen, so who cares? There's always next year. It's not like it's the end of the world."
by revigik on Jan 10, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ERA isn't that great of a metric.
He seems to blow up when we really need him – like the playoffs. http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1663&position=P
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 10, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True
the problem with ERA for relievers, is that they often come in with guys on base, and it’s there job to get out of that situation. ERA doesn’t reflect when they allow a hit to score a runner or two, and then shut down the side after that.
by Schulz on Jan 11, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
F’ing Bullshit if he gets Manny’s number.
by matzushocka45 on Jan 14, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
Manny’s number should be retired.
Unless of course he signs with the MFYs. Then he’s dead to me.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Jan 15, 2009 2:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where's MGBB?
He needs to see this. I think Saito takes a number in the high 30’s to low 40’s.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 15, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya but
you were talking about Damn and Nomar’s numbers. Manny’s on a different realm.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Jan 15, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really for our purposes.
All were players that got people to follow the Sox and were followed as idols.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 16, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya but
Manny is a HOFer, and will have his number retired. Damon and Nomar won’t.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Jan 16, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Nomar hadn't gotten hurt, he would've.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 16, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably true.
He was awesome.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Jan 16, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nomar in his peak years was better than Manny,
mostly because of his position.
by BTLove on Jan 17, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No.
Nomar was awesome, a great hitter and a very good SS. But Manny is in a whole other world. Nomar’s best OPS+ were 153 and 155. Manny’s career OPS+ is 155.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Jan 17, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not just about the O.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 18, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure it's not.
But Manny was/is one the best hitters ever. Can carry a team for weeks at a time. If not months. Nomar was great, but Manny is better.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Jan 19, 2009 2:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As I recall, Nomar wasn't a GOLD GLOVE worthy SS.
But man, when he was putting up .370 type averages he was awesome. Go ahead and file Nomar’s career in the Tony Conigliaro category. Could have been one of the best to ever live and then came the injuries.
The rhythm is the bass and the bass is the treble
by DirtySouthSox on Jan 19, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ken Jr. Griffey in that category?
With an asterisk?
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 19, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But he could have been THE.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 21, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's amazing because he still is probably in the top 5 hitters of all time.
In my list anyway.
The rhythm is the bass and the bass is the treble
by DirtySouthSox on Jan 21, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats a tough sell.
But yeah, his rookie card was my prized possession for a bunch of years.
by BTLove on Jan 22, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well he had the best videogame.
Frank Thomas’ just didn’t compare.
The rhythm is the bass and the bass is the treble
by DirtySouthSox on Jan 23, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite game.
Except they never had the real players’ names, so they would always design the guys to just look like our real guys and give them absurd names.
by BTLove on Jan 24, 2009 1:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like Rocky Balboa
The rhythm is the bass and the bass is the treble
by DirtySouthSox on Jan 26, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry I never got around to my point.
Yeah, Manny was better. And you can say all you want about how Manny “kills teams,” but Nomar was a team killer, too. At least Manny was (for the most part) consistently smashing the ball.
p.s. Just to clarify, I am not one of those people who still wishes Manny was on the team.
The rhythm is the bass and the bass is the treble
by DirtySouthSox on Jan 19, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we could get him for $7mil and 1 year...
with a BIG clause about Manny’s behavior.
For those children who claimed they’ve been a fan of their favorite team all their life, or even since they were about four or five years old: bullshit. There’s always that certain event or certain player that draws to the sport and draws you to a team. For me, Nomar Garciaparra was that reason. - Nick Coviello: I Try To See Rocco, But All I Think Is Nomar; 1/9/09
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jan 19, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe if they would
act like they were gonna keep him and then trade him in ST.
The rhythm is the bass and the bass is the treble
by DirtySouthSox on Jan 20, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but you have to take into account positional adjustments.
Manny played one of the easiest positions in baseball at a very low level. He is one of the best offensive forces to ever play the game, but most of those great offensive forces played the same position. Nomar’s 1998-2000 seasons are three of the best seasons for any shortstop in the history of baseball. If he had continued at that level he would have been one of the top five shortstops of all time.
by BTLove on Jan 21, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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