Dear Angel Fan...
by SoxAcumen on Sep 29, 2008 7:43 AM EDT
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Everything is set up for you guys to win this series:
Homefield
Pitching staff set up exactly how you guys want.
Vlady now has protection.
Torri Hunter is playing one of your eight outfield postions.
Mike Lowell is probably not gonna play much.
Josh Beckett is not starting game one and is not healthy.
JD Drew is not 100%.
Manny is gone.
No Curt Schilling this year.
A night game so that all your fans will be able to go to the game and not take time off work.
Your choice of what type of series you want.
Los Angeles cares more about the Dodgers than you guys (hell LA cares more about the Clippers than the Halos), so no pressure.
K-Rod is pitching for $$$$$.
Tex is hitting for $$$$$.
Scott Shields is pitching for his new closer job next year.
Your team had about a month to rest since there isnt one respectable team in your division.
I hear John Travolta cannot get an acting gig so the one celeb brave enough to admit he is a Halo fan will be in attendence.
Tim Salmon will probably throw out the first pitch so you guys can get that "special" feeling before the game.
When you lose the ALDS, what will your excuse be this year?
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May I say again,
you guys have SOOOOOOOOOO many excuses because you KNOW you will lose. And how dare you say the stupid Clippers are more popular than the almighty Halos ! Shame on you1
by vlad IS my man on Sep 29, 2008 10:51 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
There are no excuses when the team loses.
If we lose, then we lose, the same feeling as last year. The real question is, what will be YOUR excuse at the end of this ALDS? Because your “laundry” list in this post just isn’t good enough.
The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, Specializing in maniac-ball since 2000
by halofan4life on Sep 29, 2008 10:53 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
no love for you anti jinx........
but awesome try……….
Miss you Kotch......Love you Trent
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 29, 2008 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Just One Point to Make......
Nut up and say it…….This year, the Angels are just a better team. Come on, you can do it. This should make you PROUD if you beat us. Come on my little Chowder heads, JUST SAY IT, YOU CAN DO IT!! Please excuse the Troll job, This is going to be FUN!!!!!!
"......and you can kiss it GOODBYE"
by Hapyorange on Sep 29, 2008 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The Angels are a better team
Not much better, but okay, passable. Good enough for, like, 4th best in the league? :)
Mother---- him and John Wayne!
by MerryGoByeBye on Sep 29, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you base this on?
Our overall record? Our number of wins on the road, or at home? As for manny, I thought that more than half of you wicked smaht chowds couldn’t wait to get rid of him.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
by halofolife on Sep 29, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Run differential
The Angels scored half a run more than their opponent each game. Last season, it was the same. Half a run each game. That’s just not good enough.
Of course, I was also kidding.
Mother---- him and John Wayne!
by MerryGoByeBye on Sep 29, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about....
How about our pitching staff has only let in less runs then yours, and we have only let in one more earned run. That our pitchers have more strikeouts and a lower batting average against then your Angels pitching staff. We have let by less HR and total bases then your pitching staff has. This makes both of our teams pitching staffs nearly identical and we never had a consistent number 5 starter.
I’m not going to even get started when it comes to offense because I can’t think of a single argument you have that your offense could be better then ours. Even if you look at your offense after you got Texiera it is still not as good as ours.
Good Luck
by drabidea on Sep 29, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Know the Sox will lose?
Lol, no sorry, I have seen what the playoffs does to the Halos and its fans…you all turn into the Cubs.
I will concede that the Halos were a better team in the regular season in 08, scoreboard is scoreboard, however, the playoffs are the 2nd season and you are only good as your next starting pitcher.
Lackey v. Lester – actually think this will be a wash either team can win.
Santana in a playoff game with pressure!…YES PLEASE!!!!!
Joe Saunders in Fenway with the Nation? YES PLEASE!!!!
If the Halos lose a game in LA, the series will not come back to So Cal until we play the Dodgers in the world series.
OMG can you imagine Halo fans, K-Rod a Yankee, Tex in Baltimore, CC in LA but with the Dodgers…OH THE HORROR!!!
by SoxAcumen on Sep 29, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
learn how to use the reply button.
it’s a beautiful thing.
Lackey vs Lester is a wash, huh? You must love 7.20 ERA against the Halos this year. Or perhaps it’s his 7.78 ERA in his career. Maybe it’s the 8.64 ERA he throws up at Angel Stadium.
Santana has been nails this year, and he’s in the top 3 in the AL in K’s. Chew on that for awhile.
Saunders went 2-0 with a 3.75 ERA IN FENWAY this year with “the nation” (and you can continue sucking on the ESPN teet.). And yes, in his career, Saunders is 3-0 with a 2.75 ERA IN FENWAY. Chew on that, too.
Keep crying… maybe somebody will change your diaper.
Kotch would've had that.
by howiestheman on Sep 29, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
and those are Lester's numbers.
excuse my typos.
Kotch would've had that.
by howiestheman on Sep 29, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, very scientific
Lester had one bad game against LA on three days rest and you own him. Lackey is a very good pitcher, who was good against the Sox this year: 2-0 2.81 ERA. Including his good year, Lackey is 3-6 5.57 ERA in 13 career starts against Boston. Lackey has a 6.00 post-season ERA v. the Red Sox.
Santana has a very good year. But, aside from being 1-1 3.14 ERA v. the MFY, he didn’t do that well against the AL East: 4.26 ERA v. Tampa, 6.00 ERA v. Toronto, and 6.75 ERA v. Baltimore. 8 of his 16 wins were against three of the worst teams in the AL: Seattle, Oakland, and Detroit.
Saunders pitched well against the Sox this year. However, a lot of Boston hitters reached against him: 27 baserunners in 18.2 IP (9 BB). Based on that, I’d say some of his success was luck.
We can go back and forth with these stats all day. I look forward to a good series. The Angels are a very good team. It should be fun.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Sep 29, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
But let me throw a different theory at you. Lets say you are right and Lackey wins, he is a solid pitcher and I would not bet against him. Then you guys lose game 2 bc Santana is unproven in the playoffs and he has had one good year in a terrible division.
Do you really want to bet your house on Saunders v. Beckett in Fenway during the playoffs?
If the Halos lose? Then what? Lackey who is HORRIBLE at Fenway v. Lester who deals at home. Or maybe you will do us a favor and pitch Garland or Weaver….
Series Over.
Anyway you want to spin it, the pitching matchups favor the Red Sox. Would Beckett starting game 1 be our first choice, of course, but our 1,2,3 are better than yours and your manager just made it possible for us to use just 3 starters in this series.
Not crying, i am actually laughing at the possibility of the Angel collapse. Better dust off that Rally Monkey =)
by SoxAcumen on Sep 29, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right now, I'd LOVE to see Beckett vs Saunders
Becett is fat, ineffective and injured. i don’t care how great ESPN tells you he is or has been… that was then, and this is now.
Funny, i remember Lackey taking a no-hitter into the 9th inning against you guys AT FENWAY. That wasn’t too horrible, was it?
Kotch would've had that.
by howiestheman on Sep 29, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Except Santana IS proven
He won game 5 against the Yankees in 2005 when Colon went down early in the game with an injury. He can handle the pressure.
I feel the need, the need...for speed!
by Gorbachav5 on Sep 29, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How in the world do you consider that proven? He didn’t even do well in that game. He’s 1-2 with a 6.17 ERA career in the post season.
by Charger567 on Sep 30, 2008 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dust off that Rally Monkey?
OK…
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on Oct 2, 2008 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Oct 2, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah Dice K can kill the Halos against Voodoo with his counter attack: killer walks!
I’ll give you guys Game #3 , but the dread for you starts all over again. LET ME EXPLAIN SO YOU SOX FANS UNDERSTAND
2/3= 66 % OF NEEDED WINS FOR ALDS WITH TWO GAMES LEFT
2 x .66= 1.33 WINS = ENOUGH WINS FOR A 3-1 ALDS WIN OVER THE SUX
DO YOU UNDERSTAND, RED SOX NATION, OR DO I NEED GIVE YOU EACH A HAPPY MEAL TO BE HAPPY?
by vlad IS my man on Sep 29, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why the Caps?
Do you need to shout since you have Vlad’s balls all over your mouth? Is that it?
Mother---- him and John Wayne!
by MerryGoByeBye on Sep 29, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why, you're cute 1
Little jealous Sox fan who knows they’re going to be beat
by vlad IS my man on Sep 29, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We already had better trolls...
Mother---- him and John Wayne!
by MerryGoByeBye on Sep 29, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A very astute observation MaryGoByeBye
Why the focus on man junk? Answer as you please Merry.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
by halofolife on Sep 30, 2008 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Vlad his man?
Then I guess he really wants to see Vlad’s bat working. :)
Mother---- him and John Wayne!
by MerryGoByeBye on Sep 30, 2008 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he is.
As is Tex, G.A.,our pitching staff, and our bench. Enjoy the cold weather chowds, low 90’s here in SoCal today.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
by halofolife on Sep 30, 2008 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mid 80's in Tampa.
TOO DAMN HOT
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 30, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Acumen," we can assume,
is not a reference to your command of the English language.
Try again…we’ll give you a second chance. You can consult any text you need; this is an open book test involving your ability to communicate.
Good luck.
Now, put Chris Pritchett at first, Bobby Rose at second, Pete Coachmen at third, and let's go win.
by GarretSaysSuckIt on Sep 29, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Umm... acumen is defined by The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition as:
Quickness, accuracy, and keenness of judgment or insight.
Not that he showed that, but just making sure you didn’t have the wrong definition in mind. Ya never know when it could come back to hurt ya.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 29, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, right definition in mind...
As you’ve pointed out, he’s not quick, accurate, or keen, making it obvious that any acumen he might possess does not involve the English language.
Now, put Chris Pritchett at first, Bobby Rose at second, Pete Coachmen at third, and let's go win.
by GarretSaysSuckIt on Sep 29, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay. I thought you believed it to mean inarticulate.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 30, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, it's not so much
That we dislike losing. That sucks, obviously.
It’s the incredible, egotistical arrogance with which your team and your “Nation” act when you win, as though winning is your G-d Given Right.
Light Up That Halo!
by Clutch on Sep 29, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
yes its arrogance
to think my team will beat the Angels…maybe some of you Halo fans should look up the definition of “arrogance.”
by SoxAcumen on Sep 29, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
Didn’t realize the Angels fans could get so pissed off. Sox Acumen, you probably shouldn’t have been such an @$$whole in your presentation. I learned that lesson a while ago.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 29, 2008 6:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know...
my problem with Halo fan is not their team or management, I truly like their team, its this ridiculous “everyone disrespects us” argument they ALWAYS run too when they lose or they do not like someone criticizing the Halos or even fun trash talking about the Halos.
Its why this debate is on OTM and not HH, Rev Halo would of had a stroke and deleted the entire thread.
Sometime go read the threads over at HH and see how they discuss the Red Sox and the Nation, then tell me my presentation was too harsh
by SoxAcumen on Sep 29, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I try not to venture to to many other sites.
W/o my parents’ permission.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 29, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what?
That “poor us everyone disrespects us waaah” sounds awfully familiar. Where oh where have I heard it before?
Oh, that’s right.
Hadn’t heard it since 2004, though…
Light Up That Halo!
by Clutch on Sep 29, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've admitted that already.
We are the new Yankee fans. I don’t have a problem with it if we have the same success that their team had, followed by a period of sucking to get the bandwagoners off.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 29, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta say
that is probably the most intelligent thing I’ve heard out of a Sox’s fan when talking about the “nation”.
by Seik1177 on Sep 29, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree there.
If you were to make a New England sports analogy to the Yankees, I think it’d have to be the Patriots.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on Oct 2, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GREAT ARTICLE
Especially the parting shot at the end. Very effective, and boy, if it proves to be true…I won’t even say it. Thank you SoxAcumen for making fans on both sides aware that it’s the Red Sox who have nothing to lose in this series and everything to gain. GO SOX!!!
Forever Red Sox, screw all those pink-hatted babes, 'got no family, 'got no friends, 'got no life--RED SOX I LIVE FOR THIS.
by RedSoxUltras on Sep 29, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We have one of the largest payrolls in baseball.
We have a ballpark that is regarded as a shrine. We have very, very many fair weather fans. We always have pundits and prognosticaters with us. We have a (L)east coast media bias in our favor. We look for excuses to explain our standings, wether its the (Devil) Rays, or Halos, We have one of the largest payrolls in all of baseball. We try to buy the best talent, but sometimes lose, (Like A-Rod), yet we try to remain above the fray, who are we? The Yankees? No, we are the red sux, the 21st century version of the Skanks.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
by halofolife on Sep 30, 2008 3:08 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Typical Angel fan whine
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Sep 30, 2008 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For a minute......
I thought you were talking about the Angels. My Bad. Of course there is east coast bias, that is where most of the good teams come from. If anyone looks for excuses to explain their standings it is the Angels, you have an expected win loss record of 89-73. If your padded 100 win season makes you sleep well at night, great, you can sleep through your loss in the division series. Oh yeah large payroll, the Angels payroll is less then 4 million under ours, not much better. Buy the best talent but sometimes lose? Weren’t you Angels in the running too for A-Rod? Huh?
Nice argument for it making no sense at all.
by drabidea on Sep 30, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know, drabidea.
A $4 million difference is pretty huge. I mean, that’s like, friggin, TWO Alex Coras. You imagine what the Red Sox could do with TWO Alex Coras. We’d be un-friggin-stoppable.
by 0157H7 on Sep 30, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking "the Angels Stadium isn't a shrine"
Looks like a friggin mini-golf course out there in CF.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Oct 5, 2008 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I will have cheese with this whine,
And that still does not disprove my point. The sux, are the new Skanks. Own it, revel in it, but accept it. Ask yourself this, if what I posted is not the truth, why no rebuttal? When all is said and done the nation is nothing more than Skankee fans, minus all the championships.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
by halofolife on Sep 30, 2008 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you know, you are right
You’re very much right, I can’t believe I haven’t thought about that before. Guys, accept it: We’re the new MFY. Because our team is popular, because we won 2 WS in the last 4 years, and because when it’s all said and done we’re all bandwagoners who don’t know how’s hard to have Garret Anderson as the idol of the team. And he sox, I mean, sux!
I’m going out on the streets right now telling everyone the truth, and when I come back I expect to see the site’s name changed to Over the Monuments. We’re the new Yankees because… Oh crap, I forgot it. Why are we the new Yankees anyway?
Mother---- him and John Wayne!
by MerryGoByeBye on Sep 30, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Touched a nerve didn't I ?
Remember its all in fun, I hope its a great series, and I don’t ordinarily troll the boards. Goodbye from SoCal.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWER OF THE DARKSIDE.....
by halofolife on Sep 30, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Touched a nerve?
Not really, we just don’t really like dealing with stupid people taking random, unbacked shots at us.
by Charger567 on Sep 30, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stupid people taking random, unbacked shots? I believe it was a BoSox fan who first mentioned that the “Red Sox Nation” are the new Yankees bandwagon.
Are we stupid because we agreed with that assertion, or because we’re fans of a different baseball team?
Take your pink hat and shove it…
by Halo-Centric on Sep 30, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not everyone has a pinkhat.
Most of us on here are hardcore. If we weren’t, why would we take the time to come on here everyday and comment?
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 30, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure you touch your nerve nightly....
Yes, you have set off the nerve in my brain triggered by pure nonsense.
by Halo-Centric on Oct 1, 2008 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See ya
And you really didn’t touch a nerve. :)
Mother---- him and John Wayne!
by MerryGoByeBye on Sep 30, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
o0o0o most righteous
forgot all about the possibility of having salmon throw out the first pitch, thanks for giving me something to look forward to =)
have fun playing an angels team that do not resemble the bad news bears (see; garret anderson pink eye)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlTvSUCCqPo
by ANewFoundThrice on Sep 30, 2008 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice List
Asking Angel fans what their excuse will be if they lose?? Meanwhile that’s exactly what you’re doing. This is a list of excuses of why you’re not better than the Angels. You’re saying that you should lose, and you’re right.
Manny’s gone because you drove him out of town. Who’s fault is that
Lowell is hurt, that’s what you get when you depend on an old guy who has always been prone to injury his entire career,…..your move.
Nancy Drew is always on the shelf and you over paid him, who’s fault is that?
Tex playing for cash,…yes he is, great move by the Angels
K Rod playing for cash, more good news for the Angels. Like the Red Sox never had players playing for contracts before.
Schilling,…if you were smart you would have dumped him. You always brag how you got rid of Pedro at the right time. Well you dropped the ball with Curt.
Home Field well deserved for the best team in the American League.
These are the reasons why the Angels are a better team. Not excuses for Red Sox fans to cry about when they lose.
by LouieTheLip on Sep 30, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Drew
As Tito put it “J.D. Drew saved our season.” Although Drew was hurt during the last stretch of the season, this guy put the entire team on his back for a month. If it was the last month of the season (like it was in Pedroia’s case) people would be making an argument for J.D. Drew, MVP.
He’s earned his salary this year.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on Oct 2, 2008 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FAIL
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 8, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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