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Tuesday morning thoughts: Lowrie, Varitek, Salty

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I recently came to the realization that Jed Lowrie is the real deal. I haven't seen anything out of him recently that makes me question that. He has excelled in every facet of the game and looks like he could be our shortstop of the future.

On a side note, I've always liked Lowrie but I never knew what he'd amount to. I always kind of thought he'd be a frindge Major Leaguer, maybe a career back-up. Even with his short time in the Majors, he has proved me wrong -- and I hope he continues to do so.

With that said, Lowrie needs to be the every day shortstop starting in 2009 at the absolute latest. I'd love to see him play out the rest of the season, but when Julio Lugo gets back I'm sure he'll get his spot in the lineup (unfortunately). With Lowrie at short, this Red Sox team is getting younger and better.

And with Jason Varitek approaching free agency, the Red Sox could get even younger. Rumors (for a long time now) are that the Red Sox are interested in essentially any catching prospect the Rangers are willing to dish out: Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Max Ramirez or Taylor Teagarden. The Rangers want to hold on to Teagarden, so the Red Sox could potentially trade for Saltalamacchia, replacing an uncommon "Varitek" name behind the dish for the even more unique "Saltalamacchia."

I'm not really sure what's going to happen to Varitek. Is he going to come back for a year or two? Can the Red Sox continue to afford to keep Varitek's bat in the lineup? Can they do that now? Are the Red Sox going to completely part ways with their captain? It's all up in the air, but I'd like to see the Sox acquire one of those catchers to at least be ready for the future. George Kottaras isn't the answer, Dusty Brown might be, but everyone else is a long way off. Saltalamacchia could come right in fill that lineup spot.

Imagine a lineup like this:

Ellsbury, CF
Pedroia, 2B
Bay, LF
Ortiz, DH
Youkilis, 1B
Drew, RF
Lowell, 3B
Lowrie, SS
M. Ramirez/Saltalamacchia, C

I'll steal a line from the dumbest of all blondes in recent years: "That's hot."

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'Tek

I don’t see a need to rush to change the catcher in the middle of a season, esp. during a stretch run. But presuming you are talking about the off-season, I agree that the Captain needs to be replaced. He’s just not cutting it at the plate.

by RickD on Aug 12, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I’m talking about the off-season. Varitek isn’t going anywhere right now.

by Randy Booth on Aug 12, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure

that Lugo is really going to get his job back once he gets back to being healthy. If Lowrie keeps this pace up, why should he be able to? I know Tito likes to go with the veteran, but you can’t deny simply how much better Lowrie has been than Lugo throughout these past couple of weeks. And I finally don’t have a sinking feeling in my stomach whenever the shortstop comes up to bat. I’m hopeful that Tito will do the right thing and leave Lowrie in the lineup. I also feel that Lugo will come in and essentially replace Cora. He’ll play 2nd and short, and he also has been used in all three outfield positions in the past, so we could use him there. I’d love to see Lugo as our utility guy because he’s actually got speed and can be the kind of Dave Roberts pinch runner that teams love to have.

by aspeninthewindow on Aug 12, 2008 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

We have no reason to give Lugo the starting job just because. If he comes back and do nothing, he should not start just because he has a big salary. If he doesn’t like replacing Cora, then we should tell him to go fuck himself. Look, I don’t hate Lugo, but if Lowrie keeps this production and his defense at SS (which has been great, we have to say), there’s just no reason for Lugo to start.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Aug 12, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do we have to pay the rest of his salary, I wonder, if he leaves/quits because of being a backup?

Kind of like Manny’s situation, except we ended up paying a lot for him to leave. Could the MLB force Lugo to pay back any money he earns while not being a sore loser about the starting job, especially if he starts pulling a Manny and tanking games?

Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Aug 12, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saltalamacchia No Way

Theres talk in texas that he needs to be moved to first or another position because he can’t handle the catching duties plus he hasn’t hit at all in Texas. I would much rather the Sox sign Varitek to a 2 year deal and either Mark Wagner in Portland will develop enough to take over or trade for a guy like Lou Marson in Philly or Jeff Clement (not likely the M’s would trade him) and he could step in after Tek is done.

by Medford5 on Aug 12, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Not a huge Salty fan. I’m not sure Theo is either, as the Sox passed on him twice in the draft.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Aug 12, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They might be more open to a trade than you'd think.

M’s have 3 average to good catching prospects (including Clement), so there’s sort of a logjam at that position, with the ownership forcing the signing of Johjima. Look up Adam Moore and Rob Johnson.

by Faux on Aug 13, 2008 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many runs can you produce

is, perhaps, the most important offensive variable. Lowrie produces runs; Lugo does not. Since neither is spectacular on defense, the job – easily – should go to Lowrie. Having said that, I, too, have that “sinking feeling” Francona will put Lugo back as starter, which is just plain stupid. He’s a backup.

I also get the feeling – knowing how Tito stays with veterans unless an injury forces them out – that Veritek will be back as starting catcher next year.

by ccthemovieman on Aug 12, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

See

I wouldn’t mind Varitek back next year. My ideal situation as far as catcher goes is for the Red Sox to somehow acquire a young catcher in the offseason (Anderson from St. Louis, Marson from Philly, or Max Ramirez from Texas), have him be mentored by Tek during the season about how to call the game while still being our backup catcher, but catching 2-3 games a week instead of the normal 1-2 games that Cash does. That way, Tek can have more rest and be fresher for the season so he won’t wear down, the new catcher will be able to call a game as well as Tek by the time he takes over the reins, and we will get at least some production out of the catcher’s spot next season. I think Tek would go for it, hopefully. The only problem I see with that is the knuckleball thing, but I bet the new catcher could learn to catch the knuckler, or we could carry 3 catchers on the roster, which has been before by many teams.

by aspeninthewindow on Aug 12, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randy, please tell me by "recently", you do not mean last night.

Jed has been kicking @$$ for most of the duration on Who-lio’s injury.

Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Aug 12, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No, no, no. I’ve believed that for a little while…

by Randy Booth on Aug 13, 2008 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, just making sure.

You weren’t doing GT’s for a couple of games so I though maybe you weren’t watching for a while

Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Aug 13, 2008 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about resign Tek for two

and go for a temporary upgrade over Cash, like Gerald Laird or Torrealba.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Aug 12, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Careful what you wish for!

Salty, Salty, Salty….

This was on MLB.com late last month – after they took him out as the starter:

The Rangers refer to Saltalamacchia, 23, as a work in progress, especially on the defensive end. Offensively, he is hitting .232 with three home runs and 24 RBIs in 47 games and 164 at-bats, but it’s still the defense that concerns the Rangers.

“No. 1, his game-calling can always get better,” Ron Washington said. “I’m not getting on him; I’m just talking about what he can improve. No. 2, blocking balls. No. 3, continue working on his throwing. No. 4, understanding catching is most important. All of it together is a process. It takes time. It’s called experience.”

Read that again!

Are you sure you really want him to replace Varitek behind the dish?

The link to the article:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080727&content_id=3206932&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

by KenMac on Aug 13, 2008 8:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not really

They never took him out of the starter roll because he was one half of the platoon system Texas had. Platooning for a 23 y/o kid and expecting big numbers offensively is a bit much IMO. I think all the comments made from Washington was an attempt to inflate Lairds value to the Marlins for a trade at the deadline for pitching. However, the fish didnt fall for it and would not give Volstad up for Laird. Salty is an everyday guy and was putting up increasingly better numbers both offensively and defensively with consistant PT while Laird was on the DL.

by 3bagbeast on Aug 15, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From Gammo’s chat on Boston.com:

golden9x: Realistically, what are the Sox options next year in the catching department with Tek waning , Kottaras not really taking it to the next level and Cash basically as Wake’s caddy?

Peter Gammons: They’ve spent a half year looking for young catchers in other organizations so they are prepared should Varitek get a 3-or-4 year deal somewhere else. My guess is that they’ll make a run at Jarrod Saltalamacchia in Texas or Mike Napoli with the Angels, but they may have to forge some kind of platoon with someone like Brian Schneider and hope that the next couple of years they can develop a Mark Wagner or a Luis Exposito. Remember, the average production from the catching position per team as of this morning was a .251 ave. with 10 homers and 52 RBIs. The 2005 Jason Varitek is not going to be out there.

by Randy Booth on Aug 13, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Despite his struggles

both at and behind the plate, Salty still is

a) 23 years old
b) in possession of more upside than any catcher in the Rangers system.

Don’t forget he has less than 500 big league ABs in about a year and a half of service time that has included an organizational swap and constant role changes (backup, platoon, starter, minor league starter, etc.). His seeming lack of progress this year is slightly disappointing but the enormous potential is still there.

by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Aug 15, 2008 2:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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