Trade Almost Completed? Maybe? Maybe not?

by Allen Chace on Jul 31, 2008 4:59 AM EDT in News

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Jason Bay, clearly contemplating a move to Boston, eh?

Great. Let's completely jump the gun anyway.

So. the possible parameters of a 3-way deal (I know, dirty):

Sox get: Bay, John Grabow

Marlins get: Manuel, CA$$$$$$H!!!! (Not Kevin)

Pirates get: $hitton of prospects. Jeremy Hermida/Josh Willingham

And of a 2-way deal with the Fish:

Sox get: Hermida/Willingham, some unagreed upon package of prospects in terms of # and type and ability.

Marlins get: CA$$$$$$$H!!!! (Not Kevin), Manuel

For the long-term, I almost want the latter. Hermida has room to improve in the power department (career .835 OPS away from spacious, in empty seats and acreage, Dolphin Stadium). Willingham is already pretty good, though he's missed time this year due to injury . Some of the prospects thrown out there are interesting as well.

If we want a great chance at winning this season, then we need the former. Bay wouldn't replace Manuel, but he'd come close, and he'd give us an improvement on the basepaths and outfield over him. John Grabow doesn't excite. Sue me.

The move (3-way) would also save us some money next season, ostensibly, as we'd be paying Bay 7.5M rather than shelling out 20M to Manuel. The Sox could try to extend Bay, or keep him as a placeholder before trying for Holliday or making another trade in the next couple seasons. I can almost get behind the Pirates deal, so long as the prospects (if any) involved on our end aren't Bowden, Masterson, Anderson, Lowrie, Bard (I really believe in him), Kalish, etc. That might be asking a lot, on my part.

I just re-read all that, and I seem so casual. In all honesty, even with his comments and behavior over the last couple weeks, this is still really difficult to talk about.

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As a close second to Matt Kemp,

Jason B’eh would certainly fit the bill, depending on the other moving parts. He is a surer thing for this season than Kemp. He really is a very good player.

Wow. You have to hope for everyone’s sakes that a trade does take place. Things have soured with Manny beyond any previous point. I will miss him dreadfully though.

"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"

by britsoxfan on Jul 31, 2008 6:32 AM EDT reply actions

Grabow Sucks

Why should we trade for him??? His best year in the majors he had 1.41 WHIP and a 4.13 ERA. Can’t we get a prospect or something instead? This guy is worthless, even in our crappy bullpen.

by drabidea on Jul 31, 2008 8:08 AM EDT reply actions

2 Way vs 3 Way

I personally hope we get the 2 way deal. Way better package. We give up no prospects and we get prospects in return. I feel like Willingham isn’t that much worse then Bay. If we do the 3 way trade I hope they decide not to get Grabow and get a prospect instead.

Bye Bye Manny

by drabidea on Jul 31, 2008 8:12 AM EDT reply actions

Willingham

I believe Willingham’s contract is up after this year.

~ ROLL TIDE ~

GO SOX!!

by Bama Sox on Jul 31, 2008 10:04 AM EDT reply actions

Manny

Manny says that the Red Sox dont deserve him. But he’s got it mixed up. Manny dosn’t deserve the Red Sox. Every year there is talks of a trade, and as a Manny Fan, its wicked frustrating. He wouldn’t have a career if it wasn’t for the Sox. He should think before he speaks and/or agrees to a trade. Look at some of the most recent Red Sox’s to leave searching for a better team to call his own. Pedro Martinez has been on a down hill slide since leaving, being on the IR alot of the time. Nomar didnt do to well with the Cubs, and he has had limited sucess in LA. Johnny Damon hasn’t done much with the Yankees, and Bill Mueler hasn’t had a career since leaving. Just a few things to think if i were Manny.

by rmdrummo@coastal.edu on Jul 31, 2008 10:24 AM EDT reply actions

I heart Jason Bay. Bring Bay to Boston, dammit.

That’s a good chant:

BRING BAY TO BOSTON! BRING BAY TO BOSTON! BRING BAY TO BOSTON!

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by Randy Booth on Jul 31, 2008 12:08 PM EDT reply actions

Indeed.

Hypthetically speaking of course – would Bay just replace Manny in the 4-hole or does Tito have some rearranging to do?

I wouldn’t mind seeing Drew, Ortiz, Bay in the 3-4-5 slots.

Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.

by mystman995 on Jul 31, 2008 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Let's put Bay in the Bay State.

Bay could be good pickup. I think the lineup should be reconfigured though. How about Pedroia, Drew, Bay, Ortiz, Youk, Lowell, Lowrie, Tek, and Ells? It goes R-L-R-L-R-R-S-S-L. If Youk cools off and Lowell heats up they could be switched. Pedroia and Drew will both get on base at a prodigious pace, and Bay / Ortiz can try to knock them in.

by 0157H7 on Jul 31, 2008 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions

I do like Bay in the three-hole, but if Ortiz didn’t hit No. 4 because of Manny, then he’s not going to hit No. 4 for Bay.

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by Randy Booth on Jul 31, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions

hey all

not sure what to say, other than “hey”

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jul 31, 2008 4:08 PM EDT reply actions

You better fill those fucking shoes, Bay

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 31, 2008 6:51 PM EDT reply actions