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On the Farm: Catchers

Ignoring all these Manny rumors until something more substantial is reported. No Andruw Jones please.

Next season, our starting catcher is going to be Varitek or a trade-ee/free agent to be named later. Our farm options, in terms of the ones who might be immediately ready, aren't palatable for a couple of reasons. But how about a year or two (or three) down the line?

Pawtucket: George Kottaras (25) and Dusty Brown (26)

Kottaras is an offensive catching prospect. Nothing more (unfortunately) and nothing less. He hits well for a catcher (.811 OPS in 522 MiL games) and has a good amount of power. He's caught 13 of 62 attempted base stealers this season (21%), and his harder-to-measure defensive skills aren't said to be polished. At 25, he's probably as ready as ever for a try at the ML-level, but I doubt he'll hit well enough to make anyone forget he's not very good defensively. Brown has been a slightly better hitter this season, but is at .730 by OPS in his career. He's a bit better throwing out runners (28%), and has better defensive pedigree. When/if Wake retires, Brown would likely jump up and be the backup immediately.

Portland: Mark Wagner (24) and John Otness (26)

Wagner is a defensive catching prospect. 46% of runners thrown out this season, reported to have good catching skills otherwise (plate-blocking, pitch-blocking, etc.). He's a career .819 OPS hitter in the minors, but has struggled a bit in Portland (.758). Soxprospects (first link) has his most favorable comp as Brad Ausmus. Sounds right, all in all. Otness is basically filler at this point. Pretty old for AA, and he's got a decent OBP (.351) but a Lugo-like SLG (.348). Not great defensively.

Lancaster: Luis Exposito (21) and Jon Still (23)

Exposito might be our best all-around C prospect in the minors. His numbers against base stealers (23%) are hardly better than Kottaras, but again, according to Soxprospects.com, his catching tools are far superior. He has 17 HRs between two levels this season, in 303 ABs. The organization clearly thinks highly of Exposito. I take issue with their comp, however (Javy Lopez) as I don't think Javy was ever thought to possibly be a good defensive catcher (please correct me if my memory isn't right). Still's ML future, if he has one, is as a 1B/DH and third catcher. I highly doubt he makes it to the bigs even as a team's backup. Not good enough defensively, though his bat (.865 career OPS, .921 this season) has potential.

Everything below Lancaster is hard to hypothesize about at this point. Many are like Mark Wagner, but weaker offensively. Some certainly have higher potential, but very little experience and numbers for us to go on. If we go with an internal option in, say, 2010, it's likely Wagner would get the call and any offense would be considered a bonus. After that, Exposito is most likely, though he clearly needs refinement of his defensive and offensive skills. Luis definitely has the best chance of all our catching prospects, IMHO, at sticking as a starter in the bigs based on both his offensive and defensive potential. He is bilingual and reportedly (again, Soxprospects.com) very well-liked by his teammates.

Despite high hopes for those two, we could certainly use another potential starter in the system. Any of the Rangers young catchers would be good, and St. Louis's Bryan Anderson (speculation) could be available in the right deal, potentially.

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Does Charlie Zink have a personal catcher in Pawtucket, and would that person’s (probable) offensive advantage over Cash warrant an opportunity to try catching Wakefield?

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jul 29, 2008 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm curious about that myself. Might just have to go and check his box scores at Pawtucket this season.

Defensively you’d think Brown would catch him.

But the Sox, from an organizational standpoint, might like to see Kottaras succeed at doing so.

I’ll get back to you on this.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 29, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

#'s

Brown:
4/5, L
4/14, W
4/18, W
4/30, W
5/11, W
5/20, W
6/1, ND
6/7, W
6/17, W
6/28, ND
7/13, W
7/24, W

Kottaras:
4/9, ND
4/24, ND
5/5, ND
5/16, ND
5/26, W
6/12, ND
6/23, ND
7/3, W
7/8, W
7/19, Bloodbath
7/29, W

So: Brown: 12 starts, 9 W, 2 ND, 1 L, 12 PB (whole season)
Kottaras: 11 starts, 4 W, 6 ND, 1 L, 7 PB (whole season)

Eh. I should’ve but didn’t get too deep in the data. Would probably have to ask Zink who he’s more comfortable with.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 30, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

7 and 12 passed balls is respectable, if you consider Cash has 11. Sure, Wake’s probably got a little more knuckle than Zink, but at least they’re getting some exposure to it.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jul 30, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but that’s 11 in 21 starts.

Brown and Kott combined for 19 in 23 starts.

by Randy Booth on Jul 30, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

And, surprisingly, Zink has pitched more innings than Wake this season (about 3 more, that’s it).

by Randy Booth on Jul 30, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Assuming there is one.

Can’t send Buch down when his start tonight was yet another improvement.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 30, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Doh.

Stupid math.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jul 30, 2008 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those passed balls are for both of their entire seasons.

Not just with Zink.

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by Allen Chace on Jul 30, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could be they are just from catching Zink but...

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by Allen Chace on Jul 30, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

We can't send Buchholz down.

He seems to be a bundle of nerves on the mound; I swear those errors tonight rattled him. I think that he needs to find confidence to succeed.

The FO sent him down to AAA to work on stuff, and it didn’t really help. Whatever learning Buchholz needs to do should be done in the majors, with Farrell. Tonight’s performance had its moments, and four earned runs against a hot Angels team isn’t so bad. He also went deeper into the game than usual. Sometimes

If I’m right, and confidence is the issue, then sending Buch back to Pawtucket could be really detrimental to his development. For our part, I think we need to temper our expectations, and realize that he is the 5th starter, he’s learning, and that not every one of his starts can be a no-hitter.
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by 0157H7 on Jul 30, 2008 1:30 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree

Buch’s getting better, his FB is getting better, and his control is getting better. He just needs to ‘cool down’ some times, he seems to let the pressure get to him. I don’t think he would have given more than 2 runs yesterday without the errors. I wanted Buch to go back to AAA in the past because his control sucked badly, but now that got better, and we just have to wait a bit for his ERA to go down.

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by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 30, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice work, Allen.

I know far too little about the far system, so the catcher primer is awesome.
What sort of offensive production Kottaras could deliver in the majors? Probably not enough, but I’m curious enough to call him up anyway. Seeing Tek at the plate is a recurring disappointment for me. Every time I see him, I expect him to get into a crappy count, and then chase high fastballs or breaking pitches in the dirt. When Tek is struggling, he seems the most predictable out in the game.

by 0157H7 on Jul 30, 2008 1:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Anderson

I would definitely contact the Cardinals and see what they’d want for Bryan Anderson. He’s an outstanding prospect with nowhere to go. Yadi Molina, rightfully so, has tthe starting catching spot sewed up for years. From what you say about our prospects, Anderson is definitely superior to all of them and could play for the Sox for years. I wouldn’t wait too long, either, because others are interested in him.

by ccthemovieman on Jul 30, 2008 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh

And I’d take Andruw Jones’ contract, if the Dodgers sent us Kershaw and Martin. :)

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 30, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

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