Manny Ramirez to the Dodgers?

by Randy Booth on Jul 29, 2008 4:03 PM EDT in News Comment 16 comments

The Red Sox are in trade talks to send Manny Ramirez to the Dodgers, according to Sports Illustrated:

However the talks are said to be in the very early stages, and there are numerous complications and hurdles to clear for a Dodgers deal to get done. People familiar with the talks say it is too early to gauge the chances for a trade.

Dodgers owner Frank McCourt, a Bostonian, is believed to love the idea of adding Ramirez to bolster the Dodgers' mediocre offense. However, McCourt, whose team has previously acquired or signed ex-Red Sox Nomar Garciaparra, Derek Lowe, Bill Mueller and manager Grady Little under his stewardship, has been telling Dodgers people he doesn't want to add payroll during this trading season, and has been openly complaining about disappointing attendance and revenues. Ramirez is making $20 million this year.

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Dodgers players likely to interest the Red Sox would include young outfielders Matt Kemp and perhaps Andre Ethier. The Dodgers have a deep reservoir of young talent. Another possibility could be for Boston, which is known to have one of the more creative front offices in baseball, to take young players from the Dodgers and offer them to Atlanta for Mark Teixeira, who would appear to be the Red Sox's best hope of replicating Ramirez's dangerous bat. The Diamondbacks are seen as a favorite for Teixeira, although they are telling Atlanta they won't include either of two top young pitchers -- Max Scherzer or Jarrod Parker -- with first baseman Chad Tracy for Teixeira, who is eligible for free agency at year's end. Other teams seen as interested in Teixeira include the Rays, Angels and Dodgers.

The Dodgers do have a boatload of good prospects that would be nice in return. I'd be happy if a trade involved Matt Kemp and Jonathan Broxton. Kemp could be our future left fielder (but current?) and Broxton would be a sexy addition to the bullpen.

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First of all, please allow me to say

KEMP KEMP KEMP KEMP KEMP deep breath KEMP KEMP KEMP KEMP

He is a very, very good player in the making and actually I would put money on his being a superstar in the next season or two.

Now, I suspect we’d take a little bit of a hit in 08 if we replaced Manny with Kemp, but I think the game gets much more interesting going forward. It might very well be the risk for this year, particularly if we shore up the other holes in the lineup (replace Cash with a Teagarden or Max Ramirez, more bats for Lowrie over Cora and Lugo).

Kemp can run, hit, catch, throw and steal bases. He’s super-toolsy and I would be delighted to see him patrol LF for us. Just found Sickels on Kemp here.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on Jul 29, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

OK, just say we get Kemp and Broxton…

How bad would our lineup be this season if we had Kemp in LF, Ellsbury in CF, Drew in RF?

Drew would become the No. 3 hitter and I don’t think his production would be too far off par with Manny’s, especially if he continues his current streak. Slide Drew back in the 3 hole, find a spot for Kemp and we could have a very dangerous lineup for YEARS to come…

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by Randy Booth on Jul 29, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Manny for Matt Kemp and Jonathan Broxton sounds wonderful

Not so sure the Dodgers would do that, and not sure if the Red Sox should as well. Since we’re talking crazy, what about Manny + Hansen + Masterson for Broxton, Kemp and Martin?

Kemp can’t replace Manny, but he’s a fine enough player now, and it will only be better. But I think Theo will only trade Manny if he somehow knows Manny will be a pain in the ass until the end of the season. Which makes sense. Let’s not forget that Papi, a lefty, bats way better when protected, so which righty would protect him? Lowell? Not going to happen. If the Sox go on that road, then they better get Tex as well.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 29, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Not so sure

There is no way the Dodgers are going to Trade Martin. The wouldn’t do a straight up trade of Manny for Martin.

Second, I think Youk would give great protection for Papi. If we get rid of Manny I think Tito will put Youk in the 4 spot. I think he has earned it, especially this year.

by drabidea on Jul 30, 2008 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was kidding about getting Martin

I know there’s no way he’s going to get traded. And as far as Youk protecting Papi goes, I don’t think it will happen. Youk is not nearly as good as Manny is with the bat.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 30, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Youk

I agree Youk is definetly not as good with the bat as Manny, of course I don’t really think anyone besides 2 or 3 people in the Majors is as good with the bat as Manny. I was not saying Youk is or will be as good as Manny. What I was trying to say is Youk will give protection to Papi. Youk this season has a better slugging percentage then Manny (.544 v .533). In all other aspects he is putting up much similar numbers to Manny this year. He has the ability to fight off pitches just like Manny which makes other pitchers scared. He will not be as good as Manny but he will give Ortiz protection.

The only thing I would be worried about with Youk in the 4 spot would be his notorious second half slump and when we face NL teams the lineup will have to be drastically changed.

Knowing that Youk can handle it, I say lets trade Manny for Martin :)

by drabidea on Jul 30, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Manny for Martin

Oh yeah, I’d do that even if it meant no protection at all for Papi.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 30, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know much about Kemp

but looking at his statistics he looks like the player the Sox were hoping out of Coco. He’s got a good stolen base percentage – any experience batting leadoff – especially if Jacoby is in a funk?

Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.

by mystman995 on Jul 29, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He's not that good a contact hitter, so I wouldn't hit him in the lead-off spot.

Probably try at 6 or 7 to start with, expecting him to hit 5 later. He is much bigger and stronger than Coco, with a much higher power potential. He doesn’t wield as slick a glove as Coco, but he is very athletic and speedy. Strikes out a lot.

The Dodgers probably won’t part with Broxton unless we really sweeten the deal, and as for Martin… well, come on! The man who could be the best catcher in baseball going forward? We’d need to throw in Lester, Buchholz and Lowrie to get a look in.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on Jul 29, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

About Martin

I was talking crazy, but the Dodgers are dumb, so, who knows… I’m not so sure they wouldn’t move Broxton if we add another good (not top) prospect in the trade. The bad thing about Matt Kemp is that he just does not walk very much. 57 walks in nearly 900 PA. But, hey, the man has a career 110 OPS+, and is just 23. So he has something special going on.

Oh, and he can play CF. Just saying.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 29, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I thought you were... but as you say, they're not

a particularly well-run ball club at the moment, so…?

Broxton is very cheap. That’s one reason I think the Dodgers will have onto him.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on Jul 29, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't want Andruw Jones.

Ever.

Everyone have a nice day.

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by Allen Chace on Jul 29, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

ditto

by AJCOTE on Jul 29, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Angels just got Tex

They gave up Kotchman and Marek. Marek is average, for all I know, so the Braves didn’t get much if it’s true (SI.com says it’s true, but, who knows). They’re now the 2nd best team in baseball, behind of course the Red Sox. But they got too close on us. Theo needs to make a trade, I mean, not to get rid of Ramirez, but also not to get a 40 years old reliever.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 29, 2008 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs