Game Thread: 7/28/08
by soxaholic on Jul 28, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
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PrintLineups:
Red Sox
1. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
2. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Manny Ramirez, LF
5. Mike Lowell, 3B
6. J.D. Drew, RF
7. Jed Lowrie, SS
8. Jason Varitek, C
9. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
--Daisuke Matsuzaka, SP
Angels
1. Chone Figgins, 3B
2. Casey Kotchman, 1B
3. Maicer Izturis
4. Vladimir Guerrero, RF
5. Torii Hunter, CF
6. Garret Anderson, LF
7. Howie Kendrick, 2B
8. Juan Rivera, DH
9. Jeff Mathis, C
-- Jered Weaver, SP
One word: Revenge.
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Great catch by Daisuke to start the game
Snagged a liner off Figgins’ bat.
Thanks for setting up the gamethread
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
Dice-K's curve looks mindbending
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by sox-inda-south on Jul 28, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey there people
Go Sox!
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Jered Weaver got nothing
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This guy is nuts
Whatever happened to his brother MFY Jeff Weaver?
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by sox-inda-south on Jul 28, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Posada looks like a fucking cartoon
And is looking more and more as he gets older.
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by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That's funny
:)
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by sox-inda-south on Jul 28, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Good for us
bad for MFY
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by sox-inda-south on Jul 28, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate Vlad
He’s just too good a ball player. Hope he goes to a NL West team soon enough.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Up for contract this year
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by sox-inda-south on Jul 28, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Not so sure if Cora would have gotten to it
And Dice-K working into trouble for the first time in the game, with not walks this time.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Cora would have gotten it either
Lugo, probably.
Lugo may have
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by sox-inda-south on Jul 28, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Lowrie is a 2B man
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by sox-inda-south on Jul 28, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Shit, Kendrick is Hot
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This is looking bad
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Loaded for Rivera
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Dice-K gives just a run
Let’s knock little Weaver around.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Out of the inning
I think we got lucky, that could have been worse
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WTF IS GOING ON?
Lot of bad calls against the Sox these days.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Who should of had it?
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by sox-inda-south on Jul 28, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
According to Extra Bases
Daisuke still hasn’t allowed a hit with the bases loaded this year. Tonight’s situation was the 12th such time it’s happened.
God, I hate the Angels
Figgins on to start the inning.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
MFY down, 4-0
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Moose coming back to Earth
Good ol’ Millar helping him do it.
Always liked that guy Millar
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by sox-inda-south on Jul 28, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Mussina sucks
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
TB up 1-0
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by sox-inda-south on Jul 28, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
If you face 'em, they will hit into a DP
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Good inning but the pitch count is too high 52
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by sox-inda-south on Jul 28, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is the expected for Dice-K, btw
Unfortunately.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Weaver has only 39
were going to be seeing a lot of him
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by sox-inda-south on Jul 28, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
God
After such a good game against the Yanks, we get 1 hit on 3 innings against Weaver.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
And looking lifeless while doing so, mind you
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Feels like were on the road
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on Jul 28, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure is a quiet night here at Over The Monster
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Tampa up 1 in the 4th
MFY down 4 in the 4th
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Man
I missed Papi. I surely did.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
if he goes on a tear he could still have 100 RBIs
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Manny!!!
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
2 on for Lowrie
Lowrie has a nice name to play on Boston, it sounds great with the accent. :)
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
You jynxed him man!
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
by sox-inda-south on Jul 28, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
My bad
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Lowrie has been very unlucky since called up
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
F-U-C-K
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Tampa losing
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
MFY losing as well
If the games ended now, it would have been a great night for baseball.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Take a seat, Rivera
You suck.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Dice-K could still do 7 innings
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
Nice swing by Tek
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Nice to hear from you again, Coolwhip
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by sox-inda-south on Jul 28, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
thats "cool w'ip" to you
does dusty still have the streak going? I havent been keeping up.
He who hesitates is tagged out between first and second base.
Think he swung at ball four there
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
0-3 tonight
another high cheddar to get youk out
He who hesitates is tagged out between first and second base.
Wasted chance here
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Excuse me
That was really out of the zone?
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
now a double
man, i thought dice-bb would go deeper…
He who hesitates is tagged out between first and second base.
dont take that the wrong way.
that sounded wrong.
He who hesitates is tagged out between first and second base.
ARE YOU CHOKING MY YELLOW NIPPLES?!?!?!
Kotchman goes yard.
He who hesitates is tagged out between first and second base.
See where that wasted chance bites us?
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Awful inning for Dice-K so far
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
I Feel sick
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
please tell me the rays and MFY are still behind
He who hesitates is tagged out between first and second base.
The Yanks are getting roughed up, TB losing
Why can’t we win here…
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Dice-K always seems to have that one inning where all Hell breaks loose
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
same thing for the bullpen
except then its the 8th inning
He who hesitates is tagged out between first and second base.
MFY, 11-0
At least they’re losing worse than we are.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
oh, thats a foul ball
taht umpires rule book is written in braille
He who hesitates is tagged out between first and second base.
Ground into a DP here, Mathis
You know you wanna.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
And that's one of the many reasons I hate the Angels
A Squeeze play when they already scored 5 on the inning.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
For me, it's really all HH.
I mentioned the squeeze above, but really, I’d prefer a 5-run lead to a 4-run lead over us.
I mean, obviously I’d prefer US to have like a 67-run lead, but I understand what Scioscia is thinking.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
A Squeeze play with 4 up, in a 5 run inning
Is a scumbag thing to do. Hope Scioscia gets what he deserves this next inning.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
If that's a scumbag thing, than so was Drew's SB yesterday against the MFYs.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
It's different
You do not bunt when you have a big lead, and a 4 run lead to me is big enough. Drew’s SB wasn’t the nicest thing either, but it wasn’t nearly as bad.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
If it had been another hitter
I’d definitely agree with you. But you don’t stop trying to score runs, and I don’t think you count on Jeff Mathis (.220 BA) to get one into the air against a sinkerballer.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
Fair enough
You do need to try to score runs most of the time, and maybe that was the only good way to do it.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
On the bright side, unless it was just me
Figgins looked impressed with Masterson’s sinker.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
Let's score 6 as well on the bottom half
How long has it been since we last batted around?
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Jeremed Weaver, is I think what Dan Schulman just said.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
If Lowell gets on base, and Drew BOMB one, it's a 2 run game
Let’s make it happen.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
2 on for Lowrie again
Come on, kid.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
how many bombs did he have in the minors last year?
He who hesitates is tagged out between first and second base.
13
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Almost a sign of respect here for Varitek
Though to be fair, he’s made good contact, etc. against Weaver today.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
so they take him out
scoisca- or however you spell it-you SOB!
He who hesitates is tagged out between first and second base.
Arredondo
I can’t remember now, but if he has a 94+ MPH FB, I do not like our chances.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
4 pitch walk
He’s really the next K-Rod.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Or, unfortunately, my words should be "Be Patient."
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
Loaded for Taco
He has to get something here.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
regarding the squeeze bunt
Does Franonca ever call for a squeeze? Does ever make anything happen, or he does he just sit there and spit all game? He’s good with people, but for offensive strategy, he’s useless…..he does nothing. Reminds me of Torre.
Theo might fire him for giving away outs
Because SFs are generally more predictable in terms of no doubt getting the run in.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
A squeeze on that situation is an ass way of baseball management
Unless you got some sorry ass guy who can hit, but can bunt once in a while.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He K's, game over me thinks
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Eh. If we don't give up any
We’ve got DP, Youks, and Papi up next inning.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
I was talking about earlier with a 2-1 lead , one out
and a contact hitter up (Pedroia), I’d like to have seen it.
Sure, but the play there
Was to go for a hit, or if the ball was up, hit a SF. ‘Tek’s not fast enough to score on anything but a perfect squeeze anyway.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
California Girls
Well the Sox can’t stand him
Cause he walks, looks, and throws like an ace now
(you walk like an ace now you walk like an ace)
He makes their AL East chances look like a forsaken pennant race now
(you look like an ace now you look like an ace)
A lotta guys try to hit him
But he leads them on a wild swing chase now
(you throw like an ace now you throw like an ace)
And he’ll have fun, fun, fun
Til Scioscia takes the baseball away
(fun, fun, fun til Scioscia takes the baseball away)
by soxaholic on Jul 28, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
okay
point taken….......still like to see Tito use some game management, offensively. I know it doesn’t go with Bill James numbers, but it can be effective (squeeze)
Can, but playing the odds with DP
You’d prefer to go for the hit OR get the more predictably effective SF,
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
And a squeeze isn't the only kind of game management there is.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
No. Craig Hansen is NOT up in the pen.
Please?
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
Good inning for Masterson
If we don’t score at least 3 runs here, we’re doomed.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Fucking great
I leave for Chipotle and we have a 2-1 lead with runners on, I come back and we’re fucking down 7-3. Excellent.
by Gnick on Jul 28, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions
TB lost, so will the Yanks
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Youk starts the comeback
Nice contact.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Imperative that Manny launch one here
For a few reasons.
Word
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Manny needs a hit here
Come on Manny we’re still highly invested in you. Prove your worth.
by Gnick on Jul 28, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
Did he say inning over, or game over?
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
Game over
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Just like Wake
Daisuke was kind of due for a stinker. Still sucks like mad.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
Some talk about the Sox being in the mix for a trade for Miguel Tejada
I’m all in for it, mainly because I still don’t know if Lowrie can play SS, and Tejada is much better than Lugo.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
I'm going to give that potential trade an "Eh".
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
Tejada, month-by-month, since his initial hot start:
.713 May
.684 June
.538 July
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
Yeah, I'm not big on Tejada
But he’s better than Lugo, and we don’t know if Lowrie can stick at SS.
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree insofar that
Lugo might not be the answer.
Lowrie might not be the answer.
But I’m pretty sure Tejada is not the answer either.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
Trade for Teixeira right now Theo
Give up any prospect not named Buchholz, this team needs more offense.
by Gnick on Jul 28, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions
Where're we going to play him?
SS?
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
No 1B
Drew to Center, Youk to right, Tex at 1st, let Ellsbury play sporadically.
by Gnick on Jul 28, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh. I could see converting Youk to a full-time OF if it were an offseason trade.
Also, prefer to keep CF-type range in CF AND RF at Fenway.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
I like Offense more than Defense
Plus I’m sure Youk could learn how to play RF fairly well.
by Gnick on Jul 28, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Again, if he had some time. I'm not wild on him having to adjust to Fenway's RF on the fly
During a playoff race.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
True
But I think the 200 point difference in OPS makes up for any decencies Youk might have on D.
by Gnick on Jul 28, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's more likely
If we get Tex, that we’d just wait to sign him in the offseason and then trade either Youks or Lowell. I can’t see the FO risking Drew’s health (it helps him, when he plays away from Fenway, not having to cover as much ground I think) by having him in CF everyday. And it’s not a long-term solution. At some point, Drew’s going to lose a step and not be able to play CF as effectively as he has in spots for us.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
by Allen Chace on Jul 28, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
After the season is over
They can let Manny walk, put Youk in LF, move Drew back to right, and put Ellsbury in Center.
by Gnick on Jul 28, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't be ENTIRELY opposed to that, myself.
My only concern would be whether Youks would be happy with the move.
If Manny leaving is a foregone conclusion…
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
by Allen Chace on Jul 28, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Youk
Seems to me to be the consummate team player, I’m sure he would do it.
by Gnick on Jul 28, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
So then
Youks, Ells, Drew.
Lowell, Lugo, DP, Teixeira/Dunn?
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
by Allen Chace on Jul 28, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd prefer Lowrie to Lugo
but yeah thats basically it.
by Gnick on Jul 28, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Though.
Have to think if we didn’t get Teixeira and Manny leaves, then the replacement would be Burrell or Dunn, both of whom wouldn’t be pushing Youks to LF.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
by Allen Chace on Jul 28, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
True
But are either of those hitters in the same league as Teixeira.
by Gnick on Jul 28, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
OPS+, 2008
Tex: 137
Burrell: 151
Dunn: 138
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by Allen Chace on Jul 28, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunn is as good as Tex
Burrell is not.
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by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
How likely is it Lowrie gets anything to hit here
With ‘Tek and Ells to follow?
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The bad thing about it is that unless we put something truly great here
K-Rod will get another save.
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by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That was kind of funny.
Drew goes full-out on the slide, then gets up and it doesn’t even seem like he realized DP was there until he almost ran into him.
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At least some good came tonight.
Check this out. Over at HH, a critical mass of idiotic bickering collapsed their game thread.
I can’t imagine that sort of behavior occurring over here. Let alone Randy or Allen calling everyone “little bitches.”
I'd say it about myself.
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by Allen Chace on Jul 28, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
With all due respect to a SBnation blog, HH suck
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by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel like Rev could change the blog's name TO critical mass of idiotic bickering.
And nothing would change. And potentially, no one would notice.
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by Allen Chace on Jul 28, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Lucky he got the bat out of the way
But too late anyway
Youk, Papi and Manny on the next inning
If there’s any part of the line-up that could get 3 runs in a inning, that’s the one. And 0-5 for Pedroia today.
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I still can't believe that this shitty Angels line-up score many runs against us
I… Just can’t believe…
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Walking Juan Rivera
Javi, you dumbass.
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Steve Phillips makes sure everyone can bunt.
“In a critical situation.” With a 3-run lead.
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Another bunt
The Angels have only 8 hitters. The other dude is a bunter.
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Word on the street
Is the Dodgers would be willing to take Manny but would require us to take on Andruw Jones. I’d say no thanks to that one unless Billingsley or Loney was a part of the deal.
by Gnick on Jul 28, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions
I think they'd need to send us both. And Kemp.
Cause F. acquiring Andruw Jones.
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by Allen Chace on Jul 28, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF are the Dodgers thinking?
Nobody wants Andruw Jones.
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by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
If they sent us Kemp, Loney, Billingsley and Broxton
I’d consider it. That’s not to say that’d be fair for them, but truly, F acquiring Andruw Jones.
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by Allen Chace on Jul 28, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
This could be a fun game.
WTF would the Dodgers need to give up in order to get rid of Andruw Jones’s contract?
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by Allen Chace on Jul 28, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah
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by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
That's how K-Rod gets his saves
Gives a HR, then nearly gives up another. And sometimes he’ll walk some dudes. Good luck to the team that gets him.
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See, the good part for the team that gets him is paying for the TJ surgery.
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by Allen Chace on Jul 28, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
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by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I ask again,
why does Francona leave these failing starters in too long later in the games??? The game tonight could have been won if he immediately took out Dice-K after the first 2 men got on. The pen did well enough, but it was already too late. I see this as a consistent weakness of Francona as I have said here many times recently, and it hurts the team, IMO!
I know.
Francona needs to start lifting pitchers before they give up runs. By quick calculation, the Sox have played 107 games. Now if Francona lifted the starter / reliever every time, before he gave up a run, and the reliever who followed didn’t give up runs, then the Sox would be 107-0 right now. There really is no excuse for the Sox to have lost over forty games, when they could just follow this simple strategy. I mean, it’s not like our bullpen can’t throw hundreds of scoreless innings, am I right?
Realistic criteria!
You take an extreme sarcastic view of a real problem, IMO. When a starter reaches the 5th inning and has been doing well, but all of a sudden 2 guys are walked or 2 guys hit hard or a combo of either, it is time ot act. Is that easy enough to do?? Did you see how the Angels did this with ther starter after ours gave up the game?
This team has the talent to win, but it needs management of a higher caliber than what I have seen recently.
by NG on Jul 29, 2008 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Would you have pulled Lester on Sunday after he walked a guy with the bases loaded in the 5th inning?
Manny ain't the only bad man.
Only if his legs were looking thin.
Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.
I would think about pulling any pitcher after two walks in an inning period.
I would also pull a starter after the 5th inning if he was hit hard twice in the same inning or hit hard and walked someone in the same inning. Rules like that would keep you out of trouble, IMO, more often than they would hurt you. There is just no denying fatigue, and a fresh arm if attached to a high caliber pitcher should always be preferable to a fatigued or out of control arm! Managers should not be sooth sayers, just as you are implying here, but they also need some statistical and realistic sense!
The problem has been inconsistent pitching
in both the pen and rotation. Generally our starters are better and more reliable than the pen, so it’s reasonable for Terry to stick with them as long as he can. Going to the pen at the first sign of trouble like you suggest would increase its workload and put more stress on people like Hansen and Delcarmen, who haven’t exactly shone under pressure.
Put another way, if Francona followed your advice, pretty soon you’d be complaining that he was going to the pen too early, that Dice-K would’ve retired the runners rather than go walk, hit-by-pitch, 2-run double, walk, 3-run homer like Hansen might.
Francona is not a perfect manager, but he’s a pretty good one. He will make changes in strategy to help improve the team, albeit slowly. Thus Ellsbury gets placed lower in the lineup, and Cora gets benched in favor of Lowrie. And he manages for the long haul, finding ways to rest players. It worked like a charm last year, when the team was healthy and ready come October.
Also
How the f*ck would Tito be able to guess what was going to happen? Dice-K gave 2 HRs since a long time (can’t remember now, sorry). How would he, Tito, be able to guess that Dice-K would double that total on ONE inning?
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by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 29, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
The manager just can't see things before they happen
The pitch Kotchman bombed was just plain awful. When you hang a cutter, you’re going to get screwed. And, I mean, it was Kotchman. He’s one of the like only 3 good hitters the Angels have. Why not work him around, and trust Izturis to GIDP?
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by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 29, 2008 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
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